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Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 12:44 AM Mar 2015

Ex-NBA star asks Pence if he will be discriminated against under 'Religious Freedom' bill

INDIANAPOLIS - The first openly gay NBA player has called out Governor Mike Pence for the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

The House passed the bill, officially known as SB 101, Monday, 63-31. Some minor changes were made to it in the House, so it will first go back to the Senate for approval of those changes, but is expected to pass without issue. It would then go to the governor's desk for his signature to become law, and he has already said he looks forward to doing so.

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"Protecting a caterer's right on faith principals, to deny catering a fundraising event for an abortion business, while protecting a property owner's right, based on faith principles, to deny renting or selling a property to be used for an abortion clinic," Mike Fichter from Indiana Right to Life testified Monday.

Opponents say that effectively amounts to government-sanctioned discrimination. An Indianapolis city-county councilor took what may be the opposite approach. Zach Adamson hung a sign at his salon, Urban Designs, declaring, "We reserve the right to refuse service to Indiana state legislators (And others whose backward thinking continue [to] embarrass the good people of Indiana)."

More: http://www.wthr.com/story/28595529/ex-nba-star-asks-pence-if-he-will-be-discriminated-against-under-religious-freedom-bill

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Wella

(1,827 posts)
1. This is a reaction to going after bakeries and florists--very small businesses
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 02:55 AM
Mar 2015

But their plight will create some very big laws and they won't be in the GLBT's favor. Not a great strategy to go after these folks. Americans will fight to protect a small business "underdog."

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
2. You realize you're making the same argument as racists in the 50s?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 04:30 AM
Mar 2015

Allowing African Americans to eat at a lunch counter, use the same waiting rooms or water fountains was forbidden back then.

ASSocitate Justice Clarence Thomas would have been forbidden from marrying his white wife.

Please get into this century.

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Wella

(1,827 posts)
13. No, not in the least. I am making the argument that the GLBT strategy is backfiring
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:47 PM
Mar 2015

and is causing this flurry of religious lawmaking.

 

Wella

(1,827 posts)
11. No, my post is suggesting that the GLBT strategy will backfire: you go after small mom and pops
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:43 PM
Mar 2015

you will get the attention of people who actually supported your cause. I am suggesting that the reason many of these religious laws are being put into place is because of this strategy of going after mom and pop stores. If we end up with Americans supporting more theocracy in government--a terrifying prospect--it will be mostly at the feet of the GLBT activists who, in their unthinking emotional zeal, are waking sleeping dogs.

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
6. WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR BIGOTS?!?!?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:09 AM
Mar 2015

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When oh when will someone finally rise up in defense of racists and homophobes?

 

Wella

(1,827 posts)
12. This isn't about bigotry--it's about a GLBT strategy backfiring.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:45 PM
Mar 2015

If Americans start moving to more theocratic ideas, much of it will lie at the feet of the GLBT movement. You go after soft, vulnerable targets, you get the ire of the American people up. And even the non-church-goers will feel a certain solidarity with Christian shop owners.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. Oh please
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:36 PM
Mar 2015

A&E & big franchises discontinued some advertising on the high rated show Duck Dynasty because Phil Robertson made some anti-gay comments then all the evangelicals & their networks all angrily complained and the put the ads & merchandise advertising back up.

How about blame religious bigots for who they are -- blaming going after mom & pop stores for religious laws? It doesn't even matter, Arizona put a gay marriage ban on the ballot twice in the early 2000s.

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
15. So... In order to keep from appeasing Christian shop owners, we must appease Christian shop owners?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:28 PM
Mar 2015

Thanks, but I'll err on the side of equality.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
10. And which Americans would that be?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

The ones I appreciate and align myself with are the ones that fight for the rights of all individuals to be treated equally, regardless of race, age, gender, or sexual orientation.

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