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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have a question! How come a country with over 400 million people
have only two parties - Democrats and Republicans?
Much smaller countries with a lesser population have more political parties. Is there only two political parties who can represent the people of America? I am just curious!
Here in Canada with a population of only 35 million, we have three political parties, the Conservatives is the shits, just like yours.
How come there is no other party to challenge the status quo? bush, clinton/bush/Obama and another clinton. Wake up Americans, there has to be another person who is electable and who will work for the working class and not only the middle class. Makes me wonder where the hell two of your best candidates go - Howard Dean and the two Americas Guy, cannot remember his name right now, he was in some scandal I recall.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Well we don't. Also, we have the electoral college which means that every vote does NOT count!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Didn't know there was an analysis that proposed that. I just saw it as obvious. Winner take all = one winner and one loser = two party system.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Learn something new every day.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)They didn't even want political parties in general, if you can believe it. They just wanted elected officials. The two party system came about due to the winner take all system, but it didn't happen overnight.
If we had approval voting the system would quickly fall back to what the Founding Fathers envisioned, imo. People voting for issues rather than party loyalty. If only they realized that back then, we'd probably be far ahead as a country than we've ever been.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)There are Greens, Reform, Independent, Socialist, Communist, and The Rent Is Too Damn High Party...to name just a few. These parties aren't as popular as the two major parties. Part of the reason that they haven't caught on is that they tend to enter the fray at the national level, every four years for the Big Show--there's not a lot of effort and very little outreach to grow these organizations at the local level.
That said, a Democrat can run the gamut from very liberal to fairly conservative, and a Republican can run the gamut from very conservative to somewhat moderate, so the arc of viewpoints is pretty well covered. A Republican in Massachusetts is a very different creature than a Republican from Texas, for example. A Montana Democrat might lean conservative, a California one, not so much.
Howard Dean is backing Hillary Clinton. "The Two Americas guy," the former Senator Edwards, is doing penance by doing good works here and there and keeping his head down. He managed to avoid conviction by being fournd not guilty on one count and a mistrial on the remainder. The "some scandal" was cheating on his dying wife, having a kid out of wedlock, paying his paramour out of campaign funds, getting his staff to lie about that and squirrel the paramour away, and lying, lying, lying when he was called/caught out by, of all publications, a tabloid newspaper, the National Enquirer.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)If not, you should. I'm often bored by stuff like that, but it was a rip-roaring good read.
I won't spoil the end.
MADem
(135,425 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)And I actually wound up feeling a tiny bit sorry for Sarah Palin.
Just a tiny bit.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)(Yeah.)
betsuni
(25,655 posts)Really good. I hadn't known details about Edwards' wife. Obama seemed the best of the bunch, I thought (so far as I've read).
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Although I don't agree with all of his politics, I can't see anyone reading that book and not thinking "This is the one."
Things went so smoothly for him that it's almost like he had witches on his staff, yaknow? One by one, all of his competitors just fell apart.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Felt like an utter fool afterward.
(Didn't even get his vote. Really embarrassing for me, caucuses are a bitch.)
mnhtnbb
(31,405 posts)I sure did want it back, too!
TexasTowelie
(112,456 posts)It could be that binary thinking is the norm though.
brooklynite
(94,745 posts)...and we have a center-left and center-right Party that have expanded to choke out other competitors.
Could you have a fringe left Party? Perhaps, but they'd never achieve significant political influence.
Countries are different. People are different.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)The US doesn't have over 400 million people.
CanonRay
(14,119 posts)and have a winner take all system. Come to think of it, that about matches our economic system as well.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)So much in so few words with that one.
LeftinOH
(5,358 posts)China and India.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)1) Very few differing religions. Unlike many other religions, mainstream Christianity and its different sects seem to have similar interests when it comes to politics.
2) We are a young country who have done a fairly good job at feeding people. Yes, there have been lapses.
3) Since the beginning, suppression of voter turnout has been a main goal of campaigning. AKA negative campaigning. This leads to more unified power system.
4) Contrary to popular belief at DU, there are vast differences between the parties, and within the parties. Calling one self a Republican or Democrat really doesn't narrow much down.
I do think this aspect does lead to much greater stability. Or government moves slow. Well, unless someone overseas needs to die. Then we are fast as could be.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)In my mind, over the years, the Republicans and Democrats have divied up American. By passing election laws, filing requirments, rules at the federal, state, and local leves, both parties have made it next to impossible for viable third parties. In other words, they have rigged the deck and the fix is in.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Also we have more than two political parties.