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alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:05 PM Mar 2015

Could Ted Cruz be Running an Andy Kaufmanesque Performance-Art Troll????

Could the whole thing be a joke???

Some evidence in favor:

His father fought for communist Castro, and he himself was born in another country to a US citizen mother. Unlike the Kenya of Birther lore, however, the country is Canada. If that's not a Kaufmanesque take on the Birther charges, what is???

He goes to Harvard, and becomes notorious for suggesting he won't study with people who went to "minor Ivies," like Brown or the University of Pennsylvania. That's actually a good fucking joke about Ivy League snobbery. It can't be real!

His wife works for Goldman Sachs, a fact that he doesn't have to mention at all, but instead trumpets loudly on the very day after his Presidential announcement. This is surely parody!

He announces at Liberty University at a session that students are not at liberty to miss. 'Zat you, Andy?

He spends years railing about Obamacare, then immediately signs up for it as soon as he starts running for President.

Oh my Gawd? Is the whole thing a massive troll?

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Could Ted Cruz be Running an Andy Kaufmanesque Performance-Art Troll???? (Original Post) alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 OP
Perhaps performance-art à la Victoria Jackson Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #1
Dear Canada,,,,,,,,,, dixiegrrrrl Mar 2015 #2
Somewhere there is a country pangaia Mar 2015 #16
Dear American hosers: jmowreader Mar 2015 #18
Thanks, Canada! n/t. bvf Mar 2015 #25
With a "sad and concerned poofy pasty face" fredamae Mar 2015 #3
I've always thought, "waxy" -- like he escaped Madame Tusseauds. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #44
Well, I must Agree- fredamae Mar 2015 #45
Sorry 'bout the sound. "Crab People" is one of the few songs I know all the words to. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #46
Lol----yes, you are :D fredamae Mar 2015 #47
makes more sense than reality. mopinko Mar 2015 #4
I'm still trying to figure out the 8 years of Dubya. Rex Mar 2015 #30
imho, the plan was to denigrate the office. make the presidency a joke. mopinko Mar 2015 #32
And Clinton and Carter. Rex Mar 2015 #35
yup. they sharpened their knives on carter. mopinko Mar 2015 #41
everytime i see and hear him he comes off as playing a part and his fans being the biggest JI7 Mar 2015 #5
When your dad says God chose you to be King and inherit Earth's wealth... arcane1 Mar 2015 #26
Texas was troubled by the horrible ass KamaAina Mar 2015 #6
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #11
haha! lovemydog Mar 2015 #19
I HATE you...for coming up with that parody line before me! bullwinkle428 Mar 2015 #38
I will order his wrestling match with Gerry Lawler on PPV Doctor_J Mar 2015 #7
Or his taunting a Memphis arena full of wrestling fans bvf Mar 2015 #20
the repukes need an Andrew Dice Clay charactor too olddots Mar 2015 #8
His "Job" is to make other repubs look "reasonable" Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #9
Exactly. This should really be pointed out more. bvf Mar 2015 #15
"In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" dixiegrrrrl Mar 2015 #23
You get it Cosmic Kitten zeemike Mar 2015 #24
Glad to see someone else gets it too. That is the reason we keep going to the right as a country. Rex Mar 2015 #33
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Mar 2015 #43
Absolutely. There can be no doubt. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2015 #10
Calls Obama a foreigner, but he's Canadian. Filibusters ACA, signs up for it. NightWatcher Mar 2015 #12
You know, I am wondering if he IS a citizen. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2015 #27
i've seen this kind of speculation here before, it never pays off 0rganism Mar 2015 #13
Ivy league snobbery mixed with Tea bag nuttery BainsBane Mar 2015 #14
Rest in peace Andy. lovemydog Mar 2015 #17
Damn, it's such a good video alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #37
Ikr. Directed by Peter Care. lovemydog Mar 2015 #40
Even better: Cruz IS Andy Kaufman come out of hiding. n/t Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #21
As much as people want to blame Obama for the tea party.... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2015 #22
it was the kochs. it is the birchers run wild. mopinko Mar 2015 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #28
Wow...you put all the pieces together so well that I am compelled to believe your argument! Rex Mar 2015 #29
He is a plot to make Rick Santorum appear the reasonable choice. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #31
If he offers to wrestle Hillary,...... WinkyDink Mar 2015 #34
Hahaha! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #36
Like the Government Shut Down was a joke? Like he doesn't really owe the Country $24 Billion? Cha Mar 2015 #39

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. With a "sad and concerned poofy pasty face"
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:37 PM
Mar 2015

jiggling jowls and sorrowful hound-dog eyes accentuated with animated hand motions, carefully timed pauses between masterfully used "trigger phrases and words" and a Strong Command of Vocabulary..... he could Teach Acting for he has mastered the ability to "massage the minds" of willing listeners so as to Never doubt and question him.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
44. I've always thought, "waxy" -- like he escaped Madame Tusseauds.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:14 AM
Mar 2015

He's not a real person. He's CRAB PEOPLE!

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
45. Well, I must Agree-
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:17 AM
Mar 2015

Keep an especially (*)watchful eye on him during the summer...in the hot sun...as he jabbers away......Will he melt?

(*) (Note to self: make sure "MUTE SOUND" engaged before viewing)

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
46. Sorry 'bout the sound. "Crab People" is one of the few songs I know all the words to.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:16 AM
Mar 2015

It's got a catchy beat and I can dance to it.

He probably won't melt. I doubt he even sweats (I'm sure he considers it beneath him). All the Brylcreem in his hair might drip down his face, though.

I'm feeling a little catty this morning.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
47. Lol----yes, you are :D
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:37 AM
Mar 2015

And Whoa! That's Brylcreem? It must have Petro-Ingredients?

No, no...not your "Crab People" - I like music I need the Mute Button engaged when the "TedTalks" begin Can't take "it" any other way.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. I'm still trying to figure out the 8 years of Dubya.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:13 PM
Mar 2015

Some kind of sick joke on the electorate.

mopinko

(70,239 posts)
32. imho, the plan was to denigrate the office. make the presidency a joke.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:19 PM
Mar 2015

him and st ronnie both. buffoons. an elaborate smear on democracy.
and as you can see by the way they get away w treating obama, a successful one.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
35. And Clinton and Carter.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:32 PM
Mar 2015

You hit the nail on the head! Maybe the GOP party heads got nervous with Nixon almost going to or possibly going to prison. That would make him the first POTUS in history to do so. They also knew how easy it was to manipulate people or mostly their electorate (thanks to Hoover and McCarthy). So they found a C-actor that sounded like John Wayne and Charles Heston's dad and down the rabbit hole we went!

I bet even in those days, they had no idea how easily it would be in the long run to manipulate the mind of a conservative voter. Or the libertarian ones as well.

mopinko

(70,239 posts)
41. yup. they sharpened their knives on carter.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:30 PM
Mar 2015

made billy out to be a buffoon. i still cant believe that worked.
then let/had the saudis string him up by the short hairs.

and it worked on clinton, too. to my last breath, i know monica was sent. the only thing worse than him falling in that honey trap was showing he was stupid enough to fall in that honey trap.

but we finally have a pres who is too smart to fall into such simple traps.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
5. everytime i see and hear him he comes off as playing a part and his fans being the biggest
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:59 PM
Mar 2015

fools in it.

but i think more of it is that it's all about ego for him more than anything else. he may have right wing leaning views but his ego is more important than pushing those issues.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. When your dad says God chose you to be King and inherit Earth's wealth...
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:59 PM
Mar 2015

It could have an impact on the ego

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
20. Or his taunting a Memphis arena full of wrestling fans
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:01 PM
Mar 2015

by holding up a roll of toilet paper and loudly explaining what it is.

No wait, he probably wouldn't go there.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
8. the repukes need an Andrew Dice Clay charactor too
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:22 PM
Mar 2015

this allows a normal corporate fascist to come off mainstream ..

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
9. His "Job" is to make other repubs look "reasonable"
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:35 PM
Mar 2015

He's purposefully over the top.

By bringing the crazy
he will make the less
flamboyant right-wingers
seem moderate.

Don't misunderestimate
the right-wing game plan.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
15. Exactly. This should really be pointed out more.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:56 PM
Mar 2015

Happens every primary.

The clown with the least make-up and smallest rubber nose looks relatively normal and gets the nod. Look at Romney and McCain before him in comparison to their relative fields.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
24. You get it Cosmic Kitten
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015

He is a stalking horse because the party wants Jeb to be the one...and he makes him look sane.
Plus he is aiming at the evangelicals to keep them in the fold with the GOP.

He is not crazy but he plays one on the TV for us...and we are supposed to be afraid and concerned.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. Glad to see someone else gets it too. That is the reason we keep going to the right as a country.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:22 PM
Mar 2015

Year after year after year...a bigger crime, a bigger political scandal, a bigger economic meltdown, more money wasted, more military professionals killed, more civilians killed, more wars, more inflation...on and on and on it goes.

All they have to do is out crazy someone from last year and we all shift to the right. Why? Because we lost our minds after the stolen election in 2000 and (probably) 2004. We just pretended that a coup never happened between Baker and the GOPers on the SCOTUS.

Was, rinse, repeat. The bad thing now is that there are certain people from our own party that have no problems hippie bashing, but NEVER EVER call out these continuing gross violations of the law or actually ACT on these GOP criminals. If you want to call what happened to Foley and Delay 'trying' then we have failed miserably as a party.

I'm old enough to remember when my party made a big stand against cutting social programs or standing with the POTUS.



NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. Calls Obama a foreigner, but he's Canadian. Filibusters ACA, signs up for it.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:47 PM
Mar 2015

Either that or I'm having a stroke and this is a hallucination I'm having while paramedics are banging on my chest and performing cpr.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
27. You know, I am wondering if he IS a citizen.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:04 PM
Mar 2015

I was reading today that if an American citizen has a baby outside of the US, the parents must file a notice of birth with the US
Consulate ASAP.
If the notice is not filed, or not filed promptly, it could adversely impact the kid's citizenship status.

Wonder if that was the law when he was born, and if so, if the papers were filed?

0rganism

(23,971 posts)
13. i've seen this kind of speculation here before, it never pays off
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:52 PM
Mar 2015

the "artist" just carries it on ad nauseum, never admits it's a joke, and never puts out a well-timed punchline.
cf John Ashcroft

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
37. Damn, it's such a good video
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:49 PM
Mar 2015

Are music videos over? Sad. This one is tremendous. It came out when I was in college and they played it constantly on teevees all around me, so I think I was desensitized to how good it is. When they're all singing in the truckstop at the end, daaaang. That's how it's done.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
40. Ikr. Directed by Peter Care.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:11 PM
Mar 2015

He directed vids for New Order, Cabaret Voltaire, Tina Turner, r.e.m. et al. Tons of them on youtube.

http://www.petercare.com

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
22. As much as people want to blame Obama for the tea party....
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

.... it's really Bush/Cheney who spawned it.

The Republicans need to clean up their toxic mess. Pronto.

mopinko

(70,239 posts)
42. it was the kochs. it is the birchers run wild.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

i hate to say this, but i think cheeeney is smarter than that.

the kooks finally had enough power to let the freak flag fly.

Response to alcibiades_mystery (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Wow...you put all the pieces together so well that I am compelled to believe your argument!
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:11 PM
Mar 2015

How many does it take for something to be beyond just happenstance? Dam good work alcibiades_mystery! As funny as it sounds, it also seems like it could be true!

You think we should be looking for Ted Cruz to host the WWE?

IF THAT happens...we will need to start a betting pool. Some of you are far more up on the Kaufmanesque mythos than I am.


Cha

(297,728 posts)
39. Like the Government Shut Down was a joke? Like he doesn't really owe the Country $24 Billion?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:11 PM
Mar 2015

Like students at Liberty weren't required to go to his speech or they would get a $10 fine? that kind of funny business?

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