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Source: Reuters
Reuters in Washington
Tuesday 24 March 2015 20.29 GMT
The US park service is weighing using dogs to drive off Canada geese that each foul the US capitals National Mall with up to three pounds (1.4kg) of droppings a day, the agency said on Tuesday.
The park service is considering using border collies to harass the large and growing population of Canada geese from tourist draws like the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, the Washington Monument grounds and John F Kennedy hockey fields.
With the dogs, the geese will be encouraged to abandon the lawns and water in these areas and relocate elsewhere, it said in a statement.
The geese, known as the Branta canadensis, produce up to two or three pounds (0.9 to 1.4kg) of feces a day per bird. The droppings damage pumps and filters of the Reflecting Pool, degrade the park and are a potential public health hazard, the park service said in a statement.
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whathehell
(29,095 posts)He is in the Philadelphia suburbs.
villager
(26,001 posts)...or bullshit.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Up here too, now that I think about it.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And then we can conscript white collar convicts and banksters to clean up after the homeless, use their confiscated wealth to take care of the homeless, and the dogs, and the birds.
Right?
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)For labor, I was going to use any Cop who kills an unarmed "suspect" to pick up the geese shit with their hands for a year.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...and can be taught to do almost anything.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Haven't been able to break them of it.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do border collies shit when they are working? I've never seen them rounding up sheep and having one suddenly say "Hamg on a sec, gang, I gotta take a dump."
I don't think the idea is to have them running at large through the parks all day long.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I "work" mine by playing fetch with them. They will take a time out to shit when they want. I've never trained mine to shit on command, but that's not to say it couldn't be done.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)A border collie would run rings around me in more ways than one.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)In my case their job is to chase a ball. Actually one chases the ball and the other runs rings around the ball fetcher. Once or twice a day of this and they are calm once indoors.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Our local park has a ton of problems with goose poo. My kids have both done some slipping and sliding in it. Nasty.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Some we always seem to forget with wildlife.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Due to Human habitation, the cities provide plenty of food, shelter, and unfrozen water.
These geese have become non-migratory, and a huge problem.
I lived in Minneapolis/St Paul on the Mississippi River for a few years.
The "discharges" into the Mississippi River kept thawed pools so the geese had open, warm water, and thousands have decided to NOT migrate South during Winter anymore, but decided to stay at home in the hot tubs and scrounge Winter food from the town, which is plentiful.
They are called Resident Geese as opposed to Migratory Geese, and they are a big health problem along with other problems.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Deal with it in your own special way.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)When I say that resident Canadian Geese populations are not native to Maryland...you can take that as determinate fact any way it butters your rump. It's something that was affirmed repeatedly by biologists and wildlife-management professionals in public hearings with fancy 4-color-print charts, statistics, reports, photographs, water-testing results, DNA testing of waterfowl and data...oh fuck-loads of data. They were even nice enough to tell us what the origin of the problem was...as I recounted to you.
They do deal with it: concrete ponds, poison traps, egg confiscation/destruction, let them get hit by traffic on University Blvd. W...it's really better if DC would do their part too.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Canadian Geese are not native to metro DC as a year-round roosting species, as they have become. In fact, as recently as when I was in college in the early 2000s, they weren't even common in the area. (As bvar called them, they have become resident geese)
They, along with ducks and swans, were imported to the area for "nice to look at" and "people like to watch them" value for artificial ponds (the ponds were conditions of land development approvals under "nature preservation" as the DelMarVA peninsula has few naturally-occurring ponds or lakes) in property developments. Unfortunately, DC/MD/NoVA also does not have substantial populations of their natural predators (wolves, feral dogs, coyotes, eagles, hawks, bobcats, foxes, crows, ravens, and magpies) which has caused them to become endemic. They are a cause of substantial water pollution which in parts of lower Maryland and DC has led to the widespread death of native fish, flora and fauna in the Potomac, Anacostia, Rock Creek and Sligo Creek watersheds. We're now having to build concrete ponds for the damned things because people can't stand the idea of them being killed and their feces are a nascent environmental disaster.
My only objection to this plan is that they're not exterminating the geese as an invasive destructive species. Yes, let's get them away from the reflecting pool...but let's also actively take steps to manage the waterfowl problem.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)They have no natural predators, and they don't migrate, and they make an incredible mess.
They also walk into busy roads full of rush hour traffic, as they have no sense of the danger of automobiles speeding towards them at all. It is amazing that so few are hit. The local drivers do look out for them.
There is a similar problem with deer in the area, as they also have no natural predators anymore.
I would love to have a big, fat Canadian Honker for my Christmas Dinner.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Take as many as you like. Please.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Deal with it in your own special way.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)not tabasco.
not just for crab boils anymore.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)hunter
(38,328 posts)It doesn't hurt to remind geese wolves still exist, even in places where it's only dogs.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)Twice a day to keep the geese away.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)It's been used at the campuses of two large tech firms, on municipal golf courses and city parks.
Skittles
(153,199 posts)yes INDEED
bvar22
(39,909 posts)They are probably sending all their "bad geese" to the USA.
We should build a fence to protect our Northern border.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)She was so tall she could hunt geese with a rake!
(Stolen from Big Bang)
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)for acid rain
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)bhikkhu
(10,724 posts)I know people who've cut down trees because birds live in them and poop on their cars. I don't mind a less sterile and more natural environment myself; if my car or my deck suffers, that's ok. DC was a swampy wetland at one time.
Rex
(65,616 posts)We have several Meeses in training right now. Even a few in deep cover in Quebec.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Canada geese population is huge. They are everwhere. We live next to a 3,000 acre county park and there is a sizeable pond about 100 yards behind our house. We're lucky that there is a big area of native grasses (and weeds) between our backyard and the pond. The geese land on the water but they are wary of the tall grass because it can conceal predators. If the tall grass were not there, we would have goose crap everywhere.
Blue Owl
(50,514 posts)A perfect task for a well-trained dog!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Didn't give them a second look. They, of course, were honking madly at the sight of him. But nada.
Marr
(20,317 posts)They are the worst. Biggest assholes of the animal kingdom.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)True story.