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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOdds are high that a small business in Indiana is about to Meet The Internet
Someone who bakes cakes or owns a shoe store or a machine shop is going to let it be known that per the new Indiana law just signed by Mike Pence, they won't be serving gay people. As soon as that happens, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and other social media sites will attack the living shit out of that business owner. The owner will then do one of a couple of things: try to stand pat and make it worse, apologize "if anyone was offended", or some combination of 1 followed by 2.
This cycle may happen a few times before some court with half a brain invalidates the law. Any way you look at it, Indiana is going to lose money. There are going to be lots of court costs, and there's going to be lost business. And they're going to deserve every bit of it.
Having lived in Indiana for a total of about 10 years, I feel very comfortable in stating emphatically: Fuck Indiana.
dhill926
(16,351 posts)and
"Having lived in Indiana for a total of about 10 years, I feel very comfortable in stating emphatically: Fuck Indiana." most emphatically agree, having lived there for 18 years. Although I will say, there are many fine people there
.just not enough.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)who, one would hope, is working as we speak on a song that will totally destroy Pence and his minions.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I met my wife in Indiana, and I'm very fond of her. I was referring to state government, and to the mouthbreathers who put that state government in place.
dhill926
(16,351 posts)who'd a thought you'd miss Evan Bayh but the guvs after him have been a nightmare...
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I miss David Pryor more than Mark. And yet, look at what has replaced Mark Pryor.
LiberalArkie
(15,727 posts)can again refuse service to blacks and Jews and Chinese and others again because of the religion.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)They seem to want to take the state back to the days of Orval Faubus and Paul "Barefoot and Pregnant" Van Dalsem.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And those businesses will get free advertising and abundant patronage
starroute
(12,977 posts)Businesses in Valparaiso, including Yats, Valpo Velvet, Four Fathers Brewing and Designer Desserts, have posted "We Serve Everyone" notices on their social media sites.
The signs are in reaction to the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act bill, which protects businesses from not serving someone if they objected on religious grounds. The bill was signed into law by Gov. Mike Pence Thursday morning. ...
Yats serves a diverse group of customers, including Valparaiso University and international students, and serving them has never been a problem, she said, adding that she didn't see why it should be an issue for any retailer.
"We're all there for customer service, and we're not there to judge," Coe said.
erronis
(15,326 posts)"Can we talk about your personal biases?"
Anyone who looks suspiciously like a RWNJ or Scalia or glances away or mutters something negative on their putrid breath should be turned away.
"Sorry, This Business Only Serves People That Accept Other People."
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Please put up names & links! LOL, I'm so lazy................ I do a LOT of shopping online if I can't get it by local-owned. A good way to show support, eh?
I fell in love with this sign that I first saw on an eatery near Denali.......... I hope to see a LOT of them everywhere these "laws" are enacted.
AwakeAtLast
(14,132 posts)Just in time for the (possibly last) Final Four.
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)My concern is the right wing "buycotts" that will pop up to support the haters. (Like Chik fil a had.)
salin
(48,955 posts)in many Indianapolis businesses.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The only thing these psychos understand is money. If the nfl or nba or the gamers refuse to do business in that state, some things might change.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)for office (and win). And we have some of these people in the Democratic Party, I strongly suspect.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)is emailing the Indiana Convention & Visitors Bureau and simply telling them that I will not be looking at their state as a place where I will be vacationing. I actually was doing so for this year as they have several locations which I thought would be fun for my photography hobby, but I just took their brochures and put them into the recycle bag.
I applaud those such as GenCon, that have stated they will move their business elsewhere and think more of us should let them know that we will be doing the same.
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)That should get their attention.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)If a business is owned by a Christian Scientist, does this mean that by law they can refuse to serve anybody that ever went to a doctor?
And how do anti-gay businesses determine who is gay and who isn't? If you're not with your same sex partner how can they tell? What if you're a flaming heterosexual but are wearing a pro gay tee shirt? You yourself are straight as an arrow, but your tee shirt isn't. If refused service, could you go out and change your shirt and then demand to be served?
Or should you offer to have sex with the owners wife to prove you're not gay?
This is bad lawmaking at it's conservative finest.
-90% jimmy
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)We own a summer cottage on a lake there. I do not want to punish the good people of Indiana because they are governed by bigoted jerks. I will be checking every source I can for potential boycotts and will not enter any business that identifies itself with this horrific decision.
Surely the courts understand that this is WRONG and bad for the state.
I hope.
calimary
(81,421 posts)Either they were simply taken in by the platitudes and the soothing campaign rhetoric, or maybe some of 'em aren't such "good people" after all. mike pence didn't get to the governor's office all by his little self.
LiberalArkie
(15,727 posts)I know of plenty that have just given up here. I have just about given up but I still go and hold my nose, make sure I don't have anything in my stomach that might come up and vote D.
calimary
(81,421 posts)Wow - talk about a broad spectrum there...
I think it was both. The nutcases were fired up and wouldn't have missed it. Those we REALLY NEEDED to show up at the polls, the good lefties as you say, stayed home. Well, in the case of the latter of those two mentioned in my Reply title - was doing so worth it? Wonder if those who gave up and stayed home are happy now?
Honestly, I can't for the life of me imagine that they're satisfied with the result.
YES I KNOW IT'S DISCOURAGING!!!! It's discouraging as all-get-out! YES!!! And those who assert this - YES, They Are Correct!
But there are consequences for that! Look what happened. Look what Arkansas got for itself. Look who Arkansas got to represent them in the Senate and, as we've seen, the whole world! That guy with the big block letters "TRAITOR" on the front of the New York Daily News - that's YOUR guy, Arkansas. That's YOU. He represents YOU. He's doing this shit in YOUR name. And it's gone all over the world and he's being labeled a traitor everywhere! YOUR Mr. Arkansas. Making YOU look like shit. Even those of you who stayed home because the choice you had with a "D" on it wasn't as perfect as you wanted.
And YES, you who didn't vote and stayed home for that reason, you who also look like shit all over the world because he's carrying YOUR good name around with him on his traitorous "crusade" ALSO, yes, YOU have a point, too. You wanted something better to vote FOR. You wanted someONE better to vote FOR. I wish you'd had that. Then WE, the rest of us who don't want him, would have better, as well. But instead, you stayed home, his team showed up and voted, and WE ALL are cursed with him. Happy now? Hoping if it Just... Gets... Really... Abominably... Bad, there will be some revolution and extreme corrective action because the people will have finally had a bellyful and revolt and change things. It'll take things getting THAT BAD for us to bring about the change we want? ralph nader thought so, too, during Campaign 2000, and look what happened there.
It's not gonna get that bad that people will be driven to revolt. Yes, it WILL get all kinds of really freakin' bad, but nobody's gonna bother. The opposite will happen, and HAS happened. People have grown despondent. Discouraged. They've lost hope. They've lost even being willing to dream about hope. So they say the hell with EVERYTHING, it's no use, they're all the same, and they stay home. It seems as though human nature nowadays is NOT to get fired up and grab the torches and pitchforks. They curl up and stay home and get in OUT of the bad ol' world. Well, THAT doesn't do much toward solving ANYTHING!
Makes me think of that movie from 1980 - "The Competition," with Amy Irving and Richard Dreyfuss as then-young piano prodigies in a bigtime, career-making international piano competition. Lee Remick played Amy Irving's teacher and mentor. She had the greatest line! The scene was (spoiler alert) in a side room off a larger grand salon where a party was underway. The competition was over and Amy's character had won. But she was not happy. She'd become lovers with Richard Dreyfuss's character - who was the runner-up the year before and this was probably his last shot at winning. She beat him. He came in second. And she was moping in this side room away from the revelry where she was ostensibly the guest of honor. So Lee Remick approaches her, knowing the whole back story and the romance that's now presumably on the critical list. She tells her young student - "it's going to take at least 100 years for Nature to evolve the kind of man you have in mind. Until that happens, GET OUT THERE AND DANCE WITH WHAT THERE IS!!!"
I wish we had the perfect candidates to vote for, everywhere! I wish everyone in every Congressional and state assembly district, every city, state, and county, and nationally did. I want that, too. But we don't. This is reality and it's not always what we have in mind. Sometimes it's not even close. And I fervently, ardently wish that we could vote FOR somebody rather than AGAINST the other guy. But sometimes that's all we have to dance with. I wish we had Elizabeth Warren running for President, too. But all the wishing and lobbying and advocating and pressuring don't seem anywhere close to making it so. But we still may wind up having to dance with what there is. Well, so be it. Better than letting the worse choice get in by omission from our side - because we did nothing to stop it. You want THEIR guy picking the next one or two Associate Justices of the Supreme Court?
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Please put out a book - I'll be first in line!
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)My governor is awful. The fact that he got elected does not mean that I or my friends and family voted for him. There are good people everywhere, I think.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I can assure you I did NOT vote for that asshole. Many of us here are fighting tooth and nail.
Having said that.... PLEASE boycott us. Money is the only thing those idiots respect!
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Really?
I'd like to see you back that up with some official language. just1voice
But you wont.
Sid
mountain grammy
(26,642 posts)The Arizona legislators passed a similar bill. Businesses put up signs that said "we reserve the right to refuse service to Arizona legislators." I'll second that.
erronis
(15,326 posts)I certainly hope there will be a wonderful expose of who funded/directed these wingnuts as they swept into power, and then were swept into the dustbin.
We hear the names of Koch/Norquist/Rove/ALEC often enough. Is there some ultra-secret cabal that is really pulling the strings? Could it be a foreign power that is trying to undermine the glory of the mighty USofA? Stay tuned - the book/movie are coming out.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)I'm buying stock in...
K&R.