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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:21 AM Mar 2015

Is it time to go back to the original national security strategy of the United States?

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/27/neocons-the-echo-of-german-fascism/

Neocons: the Echo of German Fascism

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Today’s American “Conservative Revolutionary” lust for war was summed up by prominent neoconservative Richard Perle, a co-author of “A Clean Break.” Echoing the views on war from Ernst Junger and Carl Schmitt, Perle once explained U.S. strategy in the neoconservative view, according to John Pilger:

“There will be no stages,” he said. “This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there . . . If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don’t try to piece together clever diplomacy but just wage a total war, our children will sing great songs about us years from now.”

That goal was the same fantasy professed by German Conservative Revolutionaries and it led directly to a wartime defeat never imagined by Germany before, with all the “collateral damage” along the way that always results from “total war.”

Rather than continuing with this “strategy,” driven by our own modern Conservative Revolutionaries and entailing the eventual bankrupting or destruction of the nation, it might be more prudent for Americans to demand that we go back to the original national security strategy of the United States, as expressed by early presidents as avoiding “foreign entanglements” and start abiding by the republican goals expressed by the Preamble to the Constitution:

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

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Is it time to go back to the original national security strategy of the United States? (Original Post) Karmadillo Mar 2015 OP
sure it's time! Patriot Act expires now and NO media! Neocons will renew! TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #1
THIS is where Operation Paperclip got dangerous--not when it comes to rocketry, MisterP Mar 2015 #2
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations--entangling alliances with none." Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #3
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
1. sure it's time! Patriot Act expires now and NO media! Neocons will renew!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:44 AM
Mar 2015

Where are the people? Calling campaign should begin and forget media. Slam the phones!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
2. THIS is where Operation Paperclip got dangerous--not when it comes to rocketry,
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

but when half the MKULTRA doctors were German, and much of NSC-68 reads like the Nazi tales of "Judeo-Bolshevik commissars" trying to take over the planet

I mean, these were the doctors and intel analysts having any Red Army officer shot and their skulls boiled to see if they were too broad

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations--entangling alliances with none."
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 02:03 PM
Mar 2015

That was Thomas Jefferson.

Here's George Washingon:

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world."

Those guys must be spinning in their graves as we find ourselves at war across North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia. In entangling alliance with Saudi and Gulf State monarchies, apartheid states (Israel), designated terror states (Sudan), and military-led governments with a civilian veneer (Egypt, Pakistan).

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