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byronius

(7,400 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:17 PM Mar 2015

I'm Bored With This Ugly Renaissance, Says Byronius.



The Ugly Renaissance by Alexander Lee is a damned amazing book, and I'm not bored with it at all. But I'm reading the history of Florence in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries, and guess what? It's all about merchant bankers and the super-wealthy conspiring to degrade and destroy constitutional government in order to tilt the lion's share of the wealth their way, while every other human being gets the shaft because the misinformation industry is rolling in cash. People working for less-than-starvation wages under the cunning control of absolutely ruthless one percenters, anyone who sticks their head up gets slandered or whipped through the streets or accidentally murdered, and every last thing on earth that is green or good gets eaten up or shriveled to dust because the RICH SOCIOPATHS MUST HAVE EVERYTHING.

Sound familiar? Lee does a great job of pointing out the similarities. Some differences. Then, the guilty feelings of the merchant bankers drove them on their deathbed to give money to the churches they corrupted to pray for their souls after they died, and to build edifices and commission art to make them look like better people than the disgustingly horrible hoarder cheats they really were, because it's all about what it looks like, not what it is. Nowadays they don't really give a fuck how evil they look to anyone. To their hypnotized fans, Evil is Good. Evil is Strength.

And I had an epiphany. It's exactly the same fight. Same cast of filthy-souled characters, same primitive ends, same disorganized and demoralized and demonized progressives trying to advance the human cause one more inch -- really, we're still doing this? After six hundred years?

Slow. We're slow. Allowing the plutocrat vampires to grow tendrils into every branch of democracy, allowing them to destroy the futures of all who are not them, allowing the subconscious warped sexuality of incompetent Gollums to be writ large across the world's future, simply because this is the standard cycle --

It's fucking boring. Boring boring boring. Inefficient, stupid, moronic, hurts everyone including them, and here we are doing the SAME GODDAMNED DANCE OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

Can't we just kind of skip ahead somehow to the Star Trek post-apocalyptic moneyless Ethical Society? It's just all so obvious and dull, this crap. 'Hoarding money is bad'. Wow, they knew that in 1370. 'Allowing money hoarders to influence civil government will eventually weaken and destroy the society that permits it.' Yeah, top of the charts in 1401. They knew, and they fought it and died for it, and they inched forward to bring us all the way to --

Six fucking inches forward. Pbhtttttt. Gag me. Boring. Aaagh. Antonin Scalia fits right into 1393 Florence, wearing a funny little conical red hat and with a silk sash wrapped around his fat little evil belly. Oh, such a holy man he'd be back then. He'd get a statue, I'm sure. Paid for in blood money.

The Medici still live. They're called Kochs now. Fuck this rerun. I'm bored.

Where's the fast-forward button? Can't seem to find it. Nothing but this same old crap on Reality again. Bleah.
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I'm Bored With This Ugly Renaissance, Says Byronius. (Original Post) byronius Mar 2015 OP
I like what you've said, and how you've said it, my dear byronius... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #1
Human beings seem doomed to repeat and repeat and repeat past troubles NRaleighLiberal Mar 2015 #2
I think that the Earth itself will get tired of our shenanigans. AngryDem001 Mar 2015 #3
Exactly. I am not worried at all about Earth - when it's had enough, it will vomit us away NRaleighLiberal Mar 2015 #4
In fairness to most human members of the 99%, they are exhausted, powerless, lack merrily Mar 2015 #9
Agreed, but I am speaking beyond percentages - looking back over history, NRaleighLiberal Mar 2015 #12
Do you think the Iraq War vote evidenced inability to learn from Vietnam? merrily Apr 2015 #22
K&R Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #5
To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Mar 2015 #6
Well said! And there's always a get rich quick scheme like investing in tulips... displacedtexan Mar 2015 #7
"Star Trek post-apocalyptic moneyless Ethical Society" < You do know that was just a movie, right? jtuck004 Mar 2015 #8
It is surprising more people don’t go berserk polynomial Mar 2015 #10
Kick! calimary Mar 2015 #11
"six f'ing inches forward" BobTheSubgenius Mar 2015 #13
There is definitely a metaphor in the fact of the QE2 moving six inches per gallon of diesel. byronius Mar 2015 #17
Ahhhh. Thank you for the reply. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2015 #19
k&r ND-Dem Mar 2015 #14
The more things change... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #15
You may need a change of Renaissance seveneyes Mar 2015 #16
Nice. byronius Mar 2015 #18
Brilliant post, eloquently expressed nikto Apr 2015 #20
Thanks for the compliment, and sure. byronius Apr 2015 #21

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,681 posts)
1. I like what you've said, and how you've said it, my dear byronius...
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:22 PM
Mar 2015

Good, solid, vivid writing!

I'm not bored, however. I'm appalled and more than a little scared. We haven't learned anything!

How do we fix it?

I don't know.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
2. Human beings seem doomed to repeat and repeat and repeat past troubles
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:18 AM
Mar 2015

We tend to not learn well, or quickly, learn from past mistakes, and seem to prefer to respond to the shit hitting the fan instead of thinking forward and doing the right things in advance.

Approaching 60, it is a reason my wife and I neither watch or listen (or even read much) about news any longer. It is simply groundhog day - over and over again (or is that redundant!)

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
3. I think that the Earth itself will get tired of our shenanigans.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:29 AM
Mar 2015

And we will be given an eviction notice by Mother Nature.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
4. Exactly. I am not worried at all about Earth - when it's had enough, it will vomit us away
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:30 AM
Mar 2015

then will get back to setting things to where they should be.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. In fairness to most human members of the 99%, they are exhausted, powerless, lack
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:01 AM
Mar 2015

funds and have day jobs, lives to run, kids to raise and no staff. And are not Machiavellian anyway.

It's not their day job to outthink the likes of the Koch brothers. That is what they were taught/brainwashed that their choices in voting booth, their elected representatives and their donations to the IRS to support their elected representatives and their respective staffs and lawyers and accountants and strategists, etc. would do for them.

Sometimes I blame them/us, most times I don't.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
12. Agreed, but I am speaking beyond percentages - looking back over history,
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:48 AM
Mar 2015

people - no matter what - have issues learning from the past. And current short attention spans, reduced reasoning and analysis and time spent thinking - make it worse and worse - we as a species are our own (and earth's) worst enemy...in general.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. Do you think the Iraq War vote evidenced inability to learn from Vietnam?
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:02 AM
Apr 2015

That's what I was sure of at first, but I don't think that anymore.

Agreed, but I am speaking beyond percentages


So, the 100% instead of merely 99%?

(I kid. I just couldn't resist.)

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
7. Well said! And there's always a get rich quick scheme like investing in tulips...
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:47 AM
Mar 2015

...or houses for no money down to distract the marching morons.

I, too, tire of the reruns. Thank goodness I live in San Francisco. Why didn't I move here 30 years ago?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. "Star Trek post-apocalyptic moneyless Ethical Society" < You do know that was just a movie, right?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:00 AM
Mar 2015

Someone's dreamy little fantasy. Yet it appears that the Captain we all admired for inspiring that spirit for so many years is just a money-grubbing capitalist on the real Terra.

Up until that part I was really enjoying this. Still do, but it gave me pause. Because it isn't the same dance over and over. It is getting shorter every time.

Soon, there will be no music.



polynomial

(750 posts)
10. It is surprising more people don’t go berserk
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:27 AM
Mar 2015

History was easier to manipulate or hide back then, however now because of the invention of the Internet the new age Renaissance may very well avoid such ugliness that man will ascend to have a beauty and elegance that has the attention of the life force.

Yes it is far from being boring, in fact it is almost an addiction to know those cultural ways that were corrupted and went awry in this last century. Now knowing the Vatican has secrets, secret bank accounts in the world, or our own secret government metadata to control behavior.

Our passion for the secrets our government officials use to make decisions yet kept secret we find is nothing more than the a regular pattern of the ancient profiteering, tyranny, greed, power, and in America now self-evident; selfishness is apparent and obnoxious in our Congress, Senate, and Supreme court.

Yes, we have a very powerful corrupt system. One were advanced mathematics could be taught freely every day in the simple public weather report. But it isn’t, because that type of knowledge would give the citizen reasoning power to look beyond the charade of everyday breaking news and the next commercial break.

It is surprising more people don’t go berserk. Or they are yet suppressed by the media or advanced University studies. Especially in medical issues where there is insanity that twenty military veterans commit suicide every day.

Or from my own experience knowing the United Health Care System directly connected to Medicare, and AARP is likely to have a bogus medical data base for diagnostic determinations.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
13. "six f'ing inches forward"
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:35 PM
Mar 2015

Which is, coincidentally, the same amount of forward motion the QE2 gets from a gallon of diesel. There must be a metaphor in there somewhere.

Editing to add:

EXCELLENT summation - or introduction, depending on perspective - on a very intriguing subject, at least for me. First, of course, the inequalities scream at us, but there are other parallels between then and now. There was a confluence of events that greatly fostered this giant growth and concentration of wealth and power.

Did Lee touch on those at all? While parallel, they are obviously different, as virtually everything has grown in size and sophistication over the last half-millenium or more. At the risk of boring anyone who has got this far into the post, I'll jot them down and one can draw their own conclusions. In no particular order...

It was forbidden for obeservant Christians to lend money and profit from the lending. ANY profit was considered usury, which is usually reserved today for exploitative interest rates. Some ingenious soul came up with the idea of using Jews as intermediaries, thereby leaving a great deal of the profit for themselves while circumventing the proscription.

Wide acceptance of Arabic numerals made more complex commerce possible. It was simply to unwieldly to use Roman numerals, and until the Moors pointed it out, there was no written expression for "zero."

Acceptance of paper scrip instead of pounds and pounds of silver or gold. This, of course, demanded a high confidence in the issuer, but was essential for several reasons. The Knights Templar had had an internal "bank draft" system since the Crusades, but I don't imagine that was available to people outside the organization.

byronius

(7,400 posts)
17. There is definitely a metaphor in the fact of the QE2 moving six inches per gallon of diesel.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:06 PM
Mar 2015

Lee's main thrust concerns the dark underpinnings of the explosion of art during the period, art funded by guilty Italian merchant bankers who hoped God's forgiveness could be purchased. Art held great power at the time, as there was no television, and the super-wealthy funded vast amounts of self-anointing sculpture and painting.

Cosimo de Medici is buried in a huge marble encasement directly in front of the altar of the one of the most beautiful churches in Florence. Forever.

I would like to presume he is squirming, but that is probably accepting a false premise.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
19. Ahhhh. Thank you for the reply.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:44 PM
Mar 2015

So the financial malfeasance and the massive greed was more the backdrop to. and the means by which the Renaissance with which we are all far more familiar with was able to happen? Very interesting, but in a slightly different vein than I had thought.

Somehow, the Medici name has been greatly redeemed over time. Possibly because their bad actors were overshadowed by those of the Borgias? It would seem that there was room for more than one villain in this tableau.

Thank you for the introduction to this. Lee's book sounds like it should be on my "Upcoming Hits" list.

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
15. The more things change...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:48 PM
Mar 2015

the more they stay the same. We're still fighting the same shit since the Bronze Age.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
20. Brilliant post, eloquently expressed
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:29 PM
Apr 2015


Do I have your permission to copy-paste your post to Facebook, as part of a thread on elite malfeasance
I had posted some responses on?

I won't do it unless you say it's OK.
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