Not like a dispensable running back such as Ray Rice (Adrian Peterson is a different story)

It is 1-year, probably loaded with excuses to cut them in-case something happens. I remember when Dallas had Pac-Man Jones (talk about a player that still has a job in the NFL) all loaded up that when he got in a fight with his own bodyguard they cut him & traded away a high draft pick to the Titans just to get him off their hands.

But with a DE such as Hardy, he wouldn't go too long without at-least 1 team willing to take a chance -- high reward. So he appeals to the jury trial after the bench trial (NC is one of those states) & charges were dismissed so technically he isn't guilty of anything, legally speaking.

PR concerns aside, although IIRC NFL crime rates are below the broader matching demographics, there is cause to worry here as there is that hard to define "role model" content. On the other hand, a job that puts you on TV and involves playing a game is still a job, and it's hard to say that assault means you should be eternally unemployable in your normal field.

to place a player in which the charges have been dropped on some permanent ban doesn't feel progressive to me. In society the place for criminals is jail. If you aren't in jail or have served your time, you should be given a chance to work. I do not like the idea of criminal prosecution by Corporate Law and media persecution. If our societal laws are failing to punish these men that isn't the NFLs problem, it is our problem. That people continue to focus on the NFL and not our lack of prosecution or ability to convince women to follow through with prosecution then the problem will continue. Do people want to be sentenced by Corporation? I doubt it.

As much as we abhor domestic violence, and crime in general, the typical American response of "We just need to be tougher" has never worked and never will. Education, public discussion of the issue and cultural condemnation of the behavior will do a lot more in the long run to change a culture of violence.

financial, career, reputation ramifications. Let's just say that the fine is one year's pay...just for starters. One missed game for every punch or wound. And unpaid and unable to play for one year if the woman/SO has to go to the hospital. Mandatory Anger Management and Domestic Counseling for one year. Signing a statement of apology and that it will never happen again. If so, career over.

That ought to fix it. Either they can control themselves or...see above.

And it's never worked. We have more people in prison and on probation than anywhere in the world. Why? Because the knee jerk response, the easy, even lazy, response to crime has been "we need to get even tougher" and as righteous as it makes you feel, it doesn't work. Sorry.

made him/her a highly paid start. Hit 'em in the pocket book. That's the ONLY thing that's working in Indiana. Oooops, we didn't know. Same here. We're talking about a sports star. Don't know where that's righteous or a knee jerk response or anything to do with prison or probation.

Quick, knee jerk response, if you ask me.

There need to be consequences...that's the short of it. That they need to hurt the pocketbook and playing ability, i.e., earning less money, is the long of it. It's got to hurt somewhere. She sure as hell is.

Oh wait, no it didn't. Taking away one drug dealer's money isn't a deterrent to someone else getting in the business. Someone that is prone to domestic violence isn't going to alter his or her behavior because Greg Hardy gets cut. What you are talking about is retribution against an individual, not a policy that furthers a societal goal for the future. The fact is most people who commit these kinds of crimes don't think about the consequences beforehand, and they certainly don't think about some NFL players' consequences beforehand. Harsher punishments for domestic violence won't "deter" domestic violence any more than the death penalty deters murder (it doesn't, by the way). We have to get past the notion that being draconian somehow makes you a "better" opponent of domestic violence. We should do what works for a change instead of what sounds like it should work but never does.

accountability? believe you me, if a big sports start KNEW he'd be seriously punished...money, fame, fortune...for kicking on his wife...he's smart enough to control himself. If not, bet it only happens once.

All your other "parallels" aren't. What it says is It's OK to hurt folk, but gosh darn it, we don't have a clue in the world what to do about it.

And who said it would wipe it out. It's just the tip of the iceberg...these are called Teachable Moments/Events. Indiana. Sure some assholes will continue getting off on the bruises and broken bones of their wives. No one said you can stop violence. But you can sure as hell make it painful back...within the law. Not everyone is stupid.

And this isn't a DP situation. FFS, it's a rich baller beating his wife, buying everyone's silence, pretending like nothing happened and what does she get? Probably not even an allowance. And, what about the kids (if there were any)? What did they get? A lifelong lesson...you guess what it is.

And if your handle is any clue, you should know that women are almost never believed in court, or refuse to cooperate because nothing will happen and they'll just get it worse. See, I've been on the other side, and that's exactly what my high-priced lawyer told me. "Cheaper to stop now and lose than to make me rich and still lose." That's a quote. I get it.

Back to the NFL...they need to get some new balls.

Making minimum wage? As noted NFL players are actually less likely to commit domestic violence than men at large. So if there is a culture of domestic violence, the NFL is apparently better at limiting it.

Also why limit this to just domestic violence?

lock up general everyday, minimum folk. That does everything I mentioned. But, oh the apologetics comin' round the bend here. We are talking about a filthy rich, over-privileged, sports god who used his wife as a punching bag. What should we do, slap his hand? Ooops, sorry dude...too hard?

Disgusting reply. Like KO just said about the Indiana law...have the whole damn group leave the state. They are changing the way we see LGBT hate on a national level.

Is mopping the floor with your wife by the hair any less egregious? Maybe even better would be to refuse the entire team's pay and require them to pay for the damage done by their teammate...then disallow play in a few games. Bet you 10-1 it would be fixed in a New York minute. Teamwork.

The rate of NFL players arrested for domestic violence is lower than the general public.

Humanity has a domestic violence problem. Holding up NFL players as a separate, special problem is a distraction from reality because it happens more often in our own communities and we stay willfully blind to it. It's like claiming teachers have a sex offense problem merely because of a few high-profile cases where a teacher slept with his/her student.

As for the Cowboys employing a DV perpetrator, that happens every day in every profession in America.

2) Provides cover for the perpetrator threatening the victim with the "fact" that no one will listen, let along act.

It took some "simple little law" to enflame the nation against Indiana and the fallout to bring LGBT to the national consciousness. As far as the Gov was concerned, he was just doing Business As Usual. Would you say we were holding him up as a scapegoat? That just because of him, all the national sports leagues are considering leaving his state? The pain will be great on citizens, but I'll bet he either get's recalled or not elected when the average everyday person is affected. Until then who cares?

And willfully blind happens because no one gives a shit enough. And your anecdote about the teacher is painfully lame. Just happens I am one, and if one of my colleagues were sleeping with a student, I and most I know, would be at the head of the line at the Board Meeting rooting out the bad so what you described Does Not Happen. That's what it takes. Seeing one teacher thrown out would likely have an effect on any other "tempted" teacher to control themselves. Without that, who knows, suddenly all teachers might find one of their students especially attracts. Right.

Same in Any Profession. Accountability and Compensation.

You can rewrite everything you just wrote because it has nothing to do with my reply.

How the hell did you manage to read this:

as this:




The rest of your post is similar straw man nonsense. Bye

Electing "leaders", that are in control of our fiscal future, .......... where HALF of them have DUI convictions, bankruptcies, financial portfolio so bad some can't get a credit card, alcohol problems, adulterers, suspected of felonies, assault, murder, treason, voter fraud,

and the list goes on. But for thier trouble most retire on full pensions as millionaires, never having to suffer the rules of the laws the pass on us serfs.


But for what it's worth, ....the only team that makes me vomit more than New England, are the fucking Dallas Cowboys. When Jimmy Johnson was coach they were not the douchebags they are now. The Patriots have always been a group of wankers, with king douche Brady at the helm.