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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCome on folks - Why not Martin O'Malley??!!
Progressive Creds - Check
Probably running for President - Check
Hasn't stated multiple times he isn't running for President - Check
Has not been married to or related to any former Presidents - Check
Successfully served as a governor for two terms - Check
Can play some serious kickass guitar - Check
I am a fan of Biden but I'm liking Martin O'Malley for President
http://martinomalley.com/about/
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Also a big fan of Biden.
edit- I don't think O'Malley is all that progressive. I'd say left of center.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)just saying. And where do you feel he isn't progressive enough? I mean I've seen his career watching from just north of I95 - he's done good things in Maryland, kinda wish our governor was a bit more progressive. Just curious.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)W. MD out around Frostburg is coal country, just like on the other side of the WV/MD border. I don't know if he's as-much pro-fracking as pragmatic and realizing he can't lose the voters in 1/3 of his state in a statewide race by opposing one of the major economic drivers of his state. It's a balancing act though...Chesapeake and Eastern Shore people hate the coal industry, it threatens the Bay and a lot of MD relies on the Bay economically too. (Both the Eastern Shore and W. MD are overwhelmingly conservative.)
Fortunately, the DC suburbs, Baltimore, I-95 corridor and Annapolis dominate the state in terms of voters.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)FSogol
(45,504 posts)safeguards and regulations in place that will slow down Hogan from allowing fracking for years.
From Mother Jones Magazine:
For some environmentalists, O'Malley's willingness to allow fracking at all is their one disappointment in his record. "I would prefer that O'Malley would come out in favor of a ban on fracking in Maryland," says Tidwell. But others say O'Malley is making a shrewd move. With rules in place before Hogan comes in, Hogan may find it more politically difficult to repeal them than he would have to simply not write any himself. "The fact that we have a governor-elect who wants to move forward on fracking means we want to get some protections in place as soon as possible," Karla Raettig, executive director of the Maryland League of Conservation Voters, told The Washington Post."
Whole article on O'Malley being the best environmental candidate here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)If a state is going to have Fracking I would rather it be a pro-environment democrat who can ensure the safety of it's citizens and protection of enivornment of the surrounding areas than a republicans who is just going to screw everyone for profit. I'm fearful that the incoming republican would do just that but hopefully O'Malley has done all he can do to ensure that Hogan's hands are tied while Maryland is protect while allowing some limited fracking.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)For people unaware of O'Malley, here's his resume:
http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/08conoff/gov/former/html/msa13090.html
A former Governing Magazine Public Official of the Year, Governor OMalley was re-elected in 2010. His 2013 legislative successes were described in a Baltimore Sun editorial as without many parallels in recent Maryland history.
With a balanced approach of spending cuts, regulatory reform, and modern investment in education, innovation, and infrastructure, Governor OMalley and his Administration are making better choices that are delivering better results, including:
Fastest rate of job growth in the region.
#1 ranking for best public schools in America for an unprecedented five years in a row (Education Week).
#1 ranking for holding down the cost of college tuition (College Board).
#1 ranking for innovation and entrepreneurship for two years running (U.S. Chamber of Commerce).
Under the Governors leadership, Maryland also ranks:
#1 nationally in median income,
#1 in Ph.D. scientists and researchers per capita,
#1 in Research and Development, and
#1 in businesses owned by women.
Called arguably the best manager in government by Washington Monthly magazine, Governor OMalley has cut State spending more than any previous governor in Marylands history, balancing these record cuts with targeted, modern investments in priorities like public education. He has reduced the size of government to its smallest size since 1973 (on a per capita basis) and reformed how it is managed, so that it works more efficiently and accountably. His actions to save Marylands State pension system have made it sustainable over the long term. His fiscal stewardship has nearly eliminated Marylands structural deficit. His efforts to streamline, consolidate and digitize processes like business licensing are making Maryland a better place to do business.
PS, part of a public informational archive and not bound by copyright.
The Governors policies have made strides in restoring the health of the Chesapeake Bay and saving the Bays native blue crab and oyster populations.
The OMalley Administration has secured millions of dollars in rate relief for Maryland energy consumers while jump-starting the creation of thousands of green energy sector jobs. Under Governor OMalleys leadership, Maryland led the charge for the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI), the nations first cap-and-trade auction of greenhouse emissions.
Governor OMalley has cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders and reformed Marylands tax code to make it more progressive. In addition, he signed the nations first statewide living wage law, along with some of the nations most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.
Declaring that Marylanders are bound together by the common thread of human dignity, Governor OMalley signed legislation to protect individual civil marriage rights and religious freedom, along with legislation to protect voting rights. He signed and successfully defended at the ballot box the DREAM Act, which expands the opportunity of a college education to more Marylanders.
Mother Jones magazine also called him the best candidate environmentally.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)the other poster said he was 'left of center', I can't see how any progressive could argue against a presidential candidate with that kind of track record.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I could never get the salary I get in any other state or very few of them. Housing is going up but still affordable. In 2010, I bought my home for 775,000 when two years before it was 1.25 million. Bargains in housing are still out there. Food and utilities are cheap. Taxes are fair although nobody likes the rain tax. The perfect state to live in! O'malley would be a great President.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)But we had Biden as VP for 8 years so we'll let Maryland have the spotlight for awhile.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Although if you folks want slower delaware we wouldn't miss it as long as we can keep the beaches and Firefly!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)The more the merrier, and who knows, perhaps I will change my mind if O'Malley or anyone else impresses me on the campaign trail.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Has he in the past accepted campaign donations from financial corporations? Will he accept them for a presidential run?? Where does he stand on TPP?? (I'm not sure about any of these answers).
These are the important questions that everyone should be asking, no??
I mean that seems to be the barometer for democratic support, no?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)mahina
(17,682 posts)Expecting some candidates to decline corporate donations seems like asking them to pretend our own rules should apply to only them
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)socially liberal, economically conservative. He supports Hyde Park Declaration of "Third Way" centrism.: adopted the manifesto, "A New Politics for a New America":"As New Democrats, we believe in a Third Way that rejects the old left-right debate and affirms Americas basic bargain: opportunity for all, responsibility from all, and community of all.
He wants Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence; he supports Retirement Savings Accounts & Chained CPI; wants to increase military and police; build more prisons.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Martin_O%60Malley.htm
mmonk
(52,589 posts)and Bernie Sanders who I'm waiting on.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)She went through hell with that race against Scott Brown and probably doesn't want to deal with the bullshit of a Presidential Race. And let's face it - people change when they become President and they have to make compromises to get things done. Warren might realize she can accomplish more as a Senator than she could as a President.
I think if she had any inkling she'd let us know.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)And don't tell anyone, but I could vote for him over Hillary. I agree with what he said - that the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth from one family to another.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)appalachiablue
(41,161 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Julian or Joaquin both would bring something awesome to the table as a VP. And I think they would help diversify the ticket for 2016. I know this much, if we go into 2016 with two 'White Men' on the ticket it will hurt against voters. But I would not ask that we do a Palin and put someone totally unqualify to balance out the ticket. Julian Castro is the current HUD secretary and 3-term Mayor of San Antonio, one of the largest cities in the United States. Joaquin, his twin brother, is a two-term member of the House of Representatives also from San Antonio. Although I doubt either of them would help us carry Texas, I think their story and their record as politicians would have a great appeal to democratic voters in general!
appalachiablue
(41,161 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)So Hispanics love him here in his state
appalachiablue
(41,161 posts)Good for Marty Re the MD Dream Act, it's reality & progressive. Move Forward, in Backward Times, duh!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I think he's the better choice of the two if we're going to pick one at this point. I'd rather see them both get some more experience under their belts before throwing them to the wolves....but it does sound like a good ticket.
appalachiablue
(41,161 posts)(VP Dan Quayle was a moron, the Castros are far superior in intellect & accomplishment. Fast learners-).
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I have other things I'd like to know too. I will never again vote for a drug warrior democrat like the Clintons so, I need to know these things. I also want to know what he thinks about welfare reform and if he would screw the poor again like the Clintons.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)
Respect my right to shy away from foreign policy. (Apr 2013)
Israeli separation barrier might be called "peace wall". (Apr 2013)
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence. (Aug 2000)
I don't think it's a peace wall.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)He's not terribly nuanced on foreign policy...frankly, knowing the guy, I don't think he actually cares about foreign policy at all.
His comments on the topic generally sound like the sort of things one might say if they wanted to establish oneself as "not a lightweight on foreign policy" without actually having many thoughts on the subject by saying "the right things" in advance of a run for national office against an opponent considered exceptionally-strong on foreign policy.
I can't see him being an interventionist or a friend of the MIC. He really likes infrastructure spending too much to be a fan of big DoD budgets.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I could live with most of his positions and would prefer a candidate who cares more about home than abroad. I also like infrastructure spending.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I hope he gets some momentum, I think he can challenge if he becomes better recognized.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I a very open to supporting him.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I dunno--lately he's been saying a lot of the right things. If he has a recent track record that confirms some history of dedication to those "right things," he's certainly worth a look.
I must confess that my first impression was that he was a tool of Wall Street & entirely too comfy with the C of C, but I could be presuaded
Actually, my major concern is to see someone elected who is to the left of what passes for the "center" in this country.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Jeb Bush has more name recognition.
My guess he would not be real competitive with who ever the right runs.
He is to Dukakis and McGovern like
We need someone who can win not just someone who can say what we want to hear.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Why not? ... Are you punishing us?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)'Mayor Martin O'Malley and his wife stood hand-in-hand outside City Hall yesterday to denounce "orchestrated" and "relentless" rumors about their marriage, while Democrats called for an independent investigation into the Ehrlich administration appointee who admitted spreading stories about the mayor on the Internet.
Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., saying he was "angry" about the actions of Joseph F. Steffen Jr., said he would consider asking the state prosecutor to look into his longtime campaign and congressional aide, who resigned Tuesday because of his postings about O'Malley on a Web site.'
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-te.md.resign10feb10-story.html#page=1
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)that someone in the previous (repug) governor's office played games, and 'his' governor was thereafter defeated by then Mayor O'Malley?
one_voice
(20,043 posts)smear campaign. I'm confused about the baggage you're referring to.
elleng
(131,028 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)This was in 2005, and Mayor O'Malley was later elected GOVERNOR of MARYLAND, TWICE. It seems to me that it's BEEN 'cleared up.'
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)FSogol
(45,504 posts)Free Republic and you somehow think it reflects poorly on O'Malley? You think the article from 2005 needs clearing up?
x 100
elleng
(131,028 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)vote easily. I don't know what I will do if Sanders and Warren are also in it.
In 2008, I ruled out Biden as not a winner for the general.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I've known Marty for over 15 years...I worked for his Baltimore Mayoral campaign when I was in college. If he declares, I'm going to move back to DC to work for his campaign. I don't care if I have to sleep on a cardboard mat on the grate outside Foggy Bottom Station...I want to see him win.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)My brother, who lives in MD tells me there was a ginormous and costly problem with the setup of the insurance exchange under Obamacare, which resulted in O'Malley's hand picked successor losing the 2014 gubernatorial election to a republican in such a blue state.
Is there anything to this and if so, can any of it be blamed on O'Malley? Because if there is, the Clintons and their surrogates will beat him unmercifully about the head and shoulders with it. Not to mention the republicans, should he become the candidate.
I could support him if for no other reason than his last name isn't Clinton.
charlie and algernon
(13,447 posts)And was a shitty candidate. Even O'Malley said as much. While the health care website was a debacle, it could've easily been overcome in a majority Democratic State if we had a better candidate.
elleng
(131,028 posts)and then ran for governor after O'Malley was was 'term-limited' out, and failed in that attempt.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Unless Al Gore stepped up for another run... which isn't going to happen.
I still believe Hillary Clinton will get the nomination though and I'll support her in the General Election if that turns out to be the case.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)a Great President!!
You had to know that your friend from next door would have to ring in!!!
elleng
(131,028 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)If he is on the primary ballot I will vote for him. If he wins that I will vote for him in the general. That doesn't mean I agree with him on all issues, but I am sure he can reasonably accommodate most of the concerns some people here have about him. Like foreign policy looks like there is room for growth and becoming more nuanced.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)clarifying their message and then you get a better picture of who a candidate is and where they stand.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Not so sure with O'Malley even though I like what he says.
He is very quiet. I would have to see whether he can connect emotionally with a crowd, get people excited enough to go out and vote nationwide.
I am sticking with Elizabeth Warren. Sorry. Even if she doesn't want to run, she should be the candidate.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Do we have to drag her into the race kicking and screaming? That won't look pretty.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And there is only one...and that is why I want to draft Warren.
And besides if Jeb is the one for the GOP it negates the dynasty problem he has...and I think he will be the one...so Hillary is Jeb's choice.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)She has said 'no' how many times.
I'm ready to move on.
I'm not going to force someone to be a candidate who doesn't want it. I'm not that type of person.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And untill she says "If nominated I will not run and if elected I will not serve" I will hope if you don't mind.
But without someone new, and I am not convinced that O'Mally is a real thing yet...he could be just a stalking horse for all I know of him, to stear progressives away from the Warren hope...and if so Hillary will be it, and I think Jeb will win...that is my opnion and you could call it a prediction.
We will see.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Never has a candidate seem so unwilling like Elizabeth Warren nor a group of supporters seem so desperate.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And that is a reality that some cannot handle...better to pin your hopes on an illusion than to face the truth that we are being manipulated into the new world order of the corporate state.
Yes I know...it is a CT...because they would never do that.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)And "because it's a woman's turn" isn't a good reason. Try again.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)It is a strategy.
eridani
(51,907 posts)brooklynite
(94,666 posts)...the voters of MD were unimpressed enough at his record to vote for a Republican?
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)just saying.
elleng
(131,028 posts)who handled ACA exchange badly, and ran a bad campaign.
You'll blame Governor O'Malley for that?
You DO know he was term-limited out, I hope.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Lots of complaints about arrests for minor offenses and such. He is also being looked at by the PTB for some campaign finance infractions.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)have easily won another term, but Maryland's loss is America gain.
O'Malley 2016!
elleng
(131,028 posts)mahina
(17,682 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)8 Obama, 8 Clinton & 8 O'Malley should just about fix the Nixon, Reagan, Bush & Bush crapfests and leave my granddaughter a better country for her future.
Frankly, I don't really care who gets the Dem nomination. I'll vote for the big D after the name.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Clinton I think did pretty well in the end.
elleng
(131,028 posts)Pisces
(5,599 posts)stare and associate it with him. The potential candidates know this and should be prepared to answer basic questions.
This was no gotcha question. He doesn't stand a chance.
Now if you are looking for alternative candidates that is great. I would agree, but I don't think this is going to be O'Malley.
Good luck.
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)he could be a great candidate. They sure are keeping this quiet in the MSM, it's all about Hillary.
Any idea when he will/might announce?
elleng
(131,028 posts)MSM's doing worse than 'keeping this quiet.' I was pissed at the way Lawrence show 'handled' him last night, actually 'handled' interview he'd done on Sunday show; they were RUDE, imo, and I complained to J. Capehart and the Lawrence show.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I need to learn more about him and see what his plan for the country is all about.
elleng
(131,028 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Amishman
(5,559 posts)But that's not saying much.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)MineralMan
(146,322 posts)into the ring. Once he does, he'll be subject to close inspection and analysis, just like all primary candidates. So far, the country knows very little about him. It will be up to him to make sure they learn about him. His name recognition outside of his own state and maybe surrounding states is very small. That's his first battle.
Anyone can announce a candidacy for the Democratic primaries. But, until they do, they're unlikely to be taken seriously, unless they've been long in the public eye. Time's wasting. Any relative unknown needs to get started right now, and O'Malley is an unknown at this point.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)MineralMan
(146,322 posts)Elizabeth Warren has made it abundantly clear in the past couple of days that she is categorically NOT going to run. So, that's one possibility we can now forget about. Clearly, O'Malley is planning to enter the race, based on the past couple of weeks. Bernie Sanders is out there making news, so there's a good chance he'll be in it. I think we can count on Joe Biden to be in the primaries, but he'll end up being a solid supporter of Hillary Clinton, who is probably the one sure-fire candidate for the primaries, given the strong presence she seems to be making.
Who else? No idea. We'll see.