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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:05 PM Mar 2015

Come on folks - Why not Martin O'Malley??!!

Progressive Creds - Check
Probably running for President - Check
Hasn't stated multiple times he isn't running for President - Check
Has not been married to or related to any former Presidents - Check
Successfully served as a governor for two terms - Check
Can play some serious kickass guitar - Check

I am a fan of Biden but I'm liking Martin O'Malley for President

http://martinomalley.com/about/

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Come on folks - Why not Martin O'Malley??!! (Original Post) LynneSin Mar 2015 OP
I'm voting for him in the primary if nobody else steps up to the plate to challenge Hillary. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #1
which is still left of Clinton and probalby even Biden LynneSin Mar 2015 #2
Pro-fracking KittyWampus Mar 2015 #21
That's unfortunately not surprising. Chan790 Mar 2015 #32
It is also not true. See response #94 in this thread. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #95
That's even better to know. n/t Chan790 Apr 2015 #96
That's total BS. O'Malley allowed no fracking as Governor. As he was leaving office, he placed FSogol Apr 2015 #94
I knew there was more to Fracking than meets the eye LynneSin Apr 2015 #102
I'll support O'Malley. Here's his resume if you haven't seen it before: FSogol Mar 2015 #3
If that is 'left of center' I'm ok with that LynneSin Mar 2015 #4
Yep! Best state in the country hands down! yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #11
Well #2 if you ask me. Delaware is always #1 LynneSin Mar 2015 #12
We're basically twins! yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #13
Just because we share a pennisula doesn't mean we are the same state LynneSin Mar 2015 #16
Thanks for the info. He could emerge as a solid alternative candidate to Hillary, should she declare. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #22
I like what I know of him. one_voice Mar 2015 #33
Thanks for the information. Looks really good on paper. Glad to see a maybe Primary entry. libdem4life Mar 2015 #5
Why not indeed, and I am speaking as a Hillary supporter. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #6
What is his net worth? Just curious.. boston bean Mar 2015 #7
Those actually are very good questions. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2015 #9
Until we pass real campaign finance reform, mahina Mar 2015 #57
Mmmmmm. Mmmmm nt boston bean Mar 2015 #70
He's a mixed bag Oilwellian Mar 2015 #92
He's 3rd in line with me behind Warren (who says she's not running), mmonk Mar 2015 #8
I know but to me Warren is not running. No means no LynneSin Mar 2015 #14
The time has come for us to no longer compromise. It's their turn. mmonk Mar 2015 #40
Hell YES. From O'Bama to O'Malley. Great transition of power. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #10
From what I'm learning about him, I could vote for him. Avalux Mar 2015 #15
One Clinton was enough. Need more info on MO before deciding. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #35
O'MALLEY-CASTRO 2016 appalachiablue Mar 2015 #17
Which Castro? LynneSin Mar 2015 #19
Joaquin, qualified & young, energize the Party. And to lose hispanic voters to the GOP is suicide. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #23
And O'Malley passed a Dream Act in Maryland LynneSin Mar 2015 #24
Yep. Dems. need to be bold IMO. Can't wait, this tract isn't working. Irish & Hispanic, East & West. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #28
Nope. Julian - much loved as mayor here. Avalux Mar 2015 #25
Either one but we can't wait. This tract isn't working; Dems. should be bold & smart. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #29
I'd like to see his positions on the drug war, Israel, and the prison industrial complex. bravenak Mar 2015 #18
Hopefully, what you want to know is here. Chan790 Mar 2015 #39
Hmmm. bravenak Mar 2015 #41
I don't think so either. Chan790 Mar 2015 #42
Thank you. I'll keep him in mind. bravenak Mar 2015 #43
I like him sharp_stick Mar 2015 #20
The more I hear and see of him, so am I. hifiguy Mar 2015 #26
More cowbell. Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #27
He doesn't have a history that people are aware of. upaloopa Mar 2015 #30
He seems to have some personal baggage, rumors maybe but the GOP will not let it go. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #31
like what? elleng Mar 2015 #52
Do a search, I was shocked and unhappy with what I found, has scared me away from him. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #53
Please share .. Trajan Mar 2015 #58
I really wanted to by pass this but here it is Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #60
This? elleng Mar 2015 #59
no this one Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #61
It's the same 'story' as I found. elleng Mar 2015 #65
I am disappointed. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #68
Disappointed about what, elleng Mar 2015 #71
It appears he and his wife were the target of a... one_voice Mar 2015 #69
Thanks. Ditto. elleng Mar 2015 #72
I am hoping this can get cleared up. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #74
Can get cleared up??? elleng Mar 2015 #77
I hope it has. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #89
LOL, Republican Bob Ehrlich's staff spreads rumors about O'Malley using FSogol Mar 2015 #88
Thanks, FSogol! elleng Mar 2015 #90
If the primary consists of, or boils down to, Hillary, O'Malley or Webb, O'Malley's going to get my merrily Mar 2015 #34
I'm in. :) Chan790 Mar 2015 #36
He sounds OK to me but can he overcome the giant money machine that is the Clinton campaign? tularetom Mar 2015 #37
Brown lost because he ran a shitty campaign charlie and algernon Mar 2015 #46
His lieutenant governor, Anthony Brown, set up the exchange badly, elleng Mar 2015 #55
I've been intending to support him in the Ohio primary for a long while now. phleshdef Mar 2015 #38
I've been talking about OUR governor for the last nine years! Great guy who will make madinmaryland Mar 2015 #44
HEY mad! elleng Mar 2015 #56
I can't think of any reasons. Kalidurga Mar 2015 #45
And that is the whole purpose of the primary. Candidates travel from state to state FSogol Apr 2015 #93
O'Malley is OK, but Elizabeth Warren would win. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #47
And again how many times has the lady said she is not running LynneSin Mar 2015 #62
Because it is a woman's turn. zeemike Mar 2015 #48
So you would be willing to drag an unwilling woman into a race? LynneSin Mar 2015 #64
Well hope springs eturnal. zeemike Mar 2015 #76
I prefer to stick in the land of reality LynneSin Mar 2015 #79
Well these are desperate times. zeemike Mar 2015 #82
Warren isn't running. Avalux Mar 2015 #67
Well it is not my reason. zeemike Mar 2015 #73
If Bernie or Liz won't do it, O'Malley will be my go-to candidate n/t eridani Mar 2015 #49
How about... brooklynite Mar 2015 #50
His Lt Governor really did run a shitty race LynneSin Mar 2015 #63
Or NOT to vote for his lieutenant governor, elleng Mar 2015 #78
As well, there is a whole lot of bad stuff about his time as Mayor. leftofcool Mar 2015 #85
O'Malley was unable to run again due to term limits. He would FSogol Mar 2015 #86
NO REASON! elleng Mar 2015 #51
I'm for him. mahina Mar 2015 #54
I've been hoping for a Clinton/O'Malley ticket for years! displacedtexan Mar 2015 #66
I saw his deer in headlights answer to foreign policy. Pisces Mar 2015 #75
They said the same of Bill Clinton LynneSin Mar 2015 #81
Thanks. elleng Mar 2015 #83
Stakes are higher with the internet, blogs, twitter, etc. Now more people get to see the blank Pisces Apr 2015 #97
From what I've heard about O'Malley Nite Owl Mar 2015 #80
'Spring's' the last I heard. elleng Mar 2015 #84
I'm not yet sold on O'Malley. Maedhros Mar 2015 #87
Here are some threads with info: elleng Mar 2015 #91
Thank you! [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #104
I'd support him over Hillary Amishman Apr 2015 #98
He does sound good. jwirr Apr 2015 #99
No reason why not. He's welcome to toss his hat MineralMan Apr 2015 #100
Fair enough LynneSin Apr 2015 #101
I'm hoping the primary race starts taking shape. MineralMan Apr 2015 #103
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
1. I'm voting for him in the primary if nobody else steps up to the plate to challenge Hillary.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015

Also a big fan of Biden.

edit- I don't think O'Malley is all that progressive. I'd say left of center.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
2. which is still left of Clinton and probalby even Biden
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015

just saying. And where do you feel he isn't progressive enough? I mean I've seen his career watching from just north of I95 - he's done good things in Maryland, kinda wish our governor was a bit more progressive. Just curious.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
32. That's unfortunately not surprising.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:12 PM
Mar 2015

W. MD out around Frostburg is coal country, just like on the other side of the WV/MD border. I don't know if he's as-much pro-fracking as pragmatic and realizing he can't lose the voters in 1/3 of his state in a statewide race by opposing one of the major economic drivers of his state. It's a balancing act though...Chesapeake and Eastern Shore people hate the coal industry, it threatens the Bay and a lot of MD relies on the Bay economically too. (Both the Eastern Shore and W. MD are overwhelmingly conservative.)

Fortunately, the DC suburbs, Baltimore, I-95 corridor and Annapolis dominate the state in terms of voters.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
94. That's total BS. O'Malley allowed no fracking as Governor. As he was leaving office, he placed
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:15 AM
Apr 2015

safeguards and regulations in place that will slow down Hogan from allowing fracking for years.

From Mother Jones Magazine:

"Western Maryland, just south of Pennsylvania, has natural gas deposits that are recoverable by fracking, but they have yet to be exploited. O'Malley imposed a moratorium on fracking in Maryland in 2011. But he's about to be succeeded by Republican Larry Hogan, an enthusiastic fracking proponent. So after the November election, O'Malley announced that he will unveil regulations this month that will allow fracking under limited circumstances, following the best practices of other states and imposing additional, stricter rules to curb air and water contamination and restrict where drilling can take place.

For some environmentalists, O'Malley's willingness to allow fracking at all is their one disappointment in his record. "I would prefer that O'Malley would come out in favor of a ban on fracking in Maryland," says Tidwell. But others say O'Malley is making a shrewd move. With rules in place before Hogan comes in, Hogan may find it more politically difficult to repeal them than he would have to simply not write any himself. "The fact that we have a governor-elect who wants to move forward on fracking means we want to get some protections in place as soon as possible," Karla Raettig, executive director of the Maryland League of Conservation Voters, told The Washington Post."


Whole article on O'Malley being the best environmental candidate here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
102. I knew there was more to Fracking than meets the eye
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:19 AM
Apr 2015

If a state is going to have Fracking I would rather it be a pro-environment democrat who can ensure the safety of it's citizens and protection of enivornment of the surrounding areas than a republicans who is just going to screw everyone for profit. I'm fearful that the incoming republican would do just that but hopefully O'Malley has done all he can do to ensure that Hogan's hands are tied while Maryland is protect while allowing some limited fracking.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
3. I'll support O'Malley. Here's his resume if you haven't seen it before:
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015

For people unaware of O'Malley, here's his resume:

http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/08conoff/gov/former/html/msa13090.html

The bottom quarter is good reading on O'Malley's positions and what he accomplished in Maryland.
A former Governing Magazine “Public Official of the Year,” Governor O’Malley was re-elected in 2010. His 2013 legislative successes were described in a Baltimore Sun editorial as “without many parallels in recent Maryland history.”

With a balanced approach of spending cuts, regulatory reform, and modern investment in education, innovation, and infrastructure, Governor O’Malley and his Administration are making better choices that are delivering better results, including:

Fastest rate of job growth in the region.
#1 ranking for best public schools in America for an unprecedented five years in a row (Education Week).
#1 ranking for holding down the cost of college tuition (College Board).
#1 ranking for innovation and entrepreneurship for two years running (U.S. Chamber of Commerce).

Under the Governor’s leadership, Maryland also ranks:

#1 nationally in median income,
#1 in Ph.D. scientists and researchers per capita,
#1 in Research and Development, and
#1 in businesses owned by women.


Called “arguably the best manager in government” by Washington Monthly magazine, Governor O’Malley has cut State spending more than any previous governor in Maryland’s history, balancing these record cuts with targeted, modern investments in priorities like public education. He has reduced the size of government to its smallest size since 1973 (on a per capita basis) and reformed how it is managed, so that it works more efficiently and accountably. His actions to save Maryland’s State pension system have made it sustainable over the long term. His fiscal stewardship has nearly eliminated Maryland’s structural deficit. His efforts to streamline, consolidate and digitize processes like business licensing are making Maryland a better place to do business.



PS, part of a public informational archive and not bound by copyright.

The O’Malley-Brown Administration has expanded health care to more than 380,000 previously uninsured Marylanders. It has reduced infant mortality to an historic low, and provided meals to thousands of hungry children as it moves forward toward its goal for eradicating childhood hunger.

The Governor’s policies have made strides in restoring the health of the Chesapeake Bay and saving the Bay’s native blue crab and oyster populations.

The O’Malley Administration has secured millions of dollars in rate relief for Maryland energy consumers while jump-starting the creation of thousands of green energy sector jobs. Under Governor O’Malley’s leadership, Maryland led the charge for the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI), the nation’s first cap-and-trade auction of greenhouse emissions.

Governor O’Malley has cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders and reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive. In addition, he signed the nation’s first statewide living wage law, along with some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Declaring that Marylanders are bound together by “the common thread of human dignity,” Governor O’Malley signed legislation to protect individual civil marriage rights and religious freedom, along with legislation to protect voting rights. He signed – and successfully defended at the ballot box – the DREAM Act, which expands the opportunity of a college education to more Marylanders.


Mother Jones magazine also called him the best candidate environmentally.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk


LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
4. If that is 'left of center' I'm ok with that
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

the other poster said he was 'left of center', I can't see how any progressive could argue against a presidential candidate with that kind of track record.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. Yep! Best state in the country hands down!
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

I could never get the salary I get in any other state or very few of them. Housing is going up but still affordable. In 2010, I bought my home for 775,000 when two years before it was 1.25 million. Bargains in housing are still out there. Food and utilities are cheap. Taxes are fair although nobody likes the rain tax. The perfect state to live in! O'malley would be a great President.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. Well #2 if you ask me. Delaware is always #1
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:28 PM
Mar 2015

But we had Biden as VP for 8 years so we'll let Maryland have the spotlight for awhile.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
16. Just because we share a pennisula doesn't mean we are the same state
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

Although if you folks want slower delaware we wouldn't miss it as long as we can keep the beaches and Firefly!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
22. Thanks for the info. He could emerge as a solid alternative candidate to Hillary, should she declare.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:43 PM
Mar 2015

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Why not indeed, and I am speaking as a Hillary supporter.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:15 PM
Mar 2015

The more the merrier, and who knows, perhaps I will change my mind if O'Malley or anyone else impresses me on the campaign trail.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
7. What is his net worth? Just curious..
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:16 PM
Mar 2015

Has he in the past accepted campaign donations from financial corporations? Will he accept them for a presidential run?? Where does he stand on TPP?? (I'm not sure about any of these answers).

These are the important questions that everyone should be asking, no??

I mean that seems to be the barometer for democratic support, no?

mahina

(17,682 posts)
57. Until we pass real campaign finance reform,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:15 PM
Mar 2015

Expecting some candidates to decline corporate donations seems like asking them to pretend our own rules should apply to only them

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
92. He's a mixed bag
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:14 PM
Mar 2015

socially liberal, economically conservative. He supports Hyde Park Declaration of "Third Way" centrism.: adopted the manifesto, "A New Politics for a New America":"As New Democrats, we believe in a Third Way that rejects the old left-right debate and affirms America’s basic bargain: opportunity for all, responsibility from all, and community of all.

He wants Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence; he supports Retirement Savings Accounts & Chained CPI; wants to increase military and police; build more prisons.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Martin_O%60Malley.htm

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
8. He's 3rd in line with me behind Warren (who says she's not running),
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:17 PM
Mar 2015

and Bernie Sanders who I'm waiting on.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. I know but to me Warren is not running. No means no
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

She went through hell with that race against Scott Brown and probably doesn't want to deal with the bullshit of a Presidential Race. And let's face it - people change when they become President and they have to make compromises to get things done. Warren might realize she can accomplish more as a Senator than she could as a President.

I think if she had any inkling she'd let us know.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
15. From what I'm learning about him, I could vote for him.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

And don't tell anyone, but I could vote for him over Hillary. I agree with what he said - that the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth from one family to another.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
19. Which Castro?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

Julian or Joaquin both would bring something awesome to the table as a VP. And I think they would help diversify the ticket for 2016. I know this much, if we go into 2016 with two 'White Men' on the ticket it will hurt against voters. But I would not ask that we do a Palin and put someone totally unqualify to balance out the ticket. Julian Castro is the current HUD secretary and 3-term Mayor of San Antonio, one of the largest cities in the United States. Joaquin, his twin brother, is a two-term member of the House of Representatives also from San Antonio. Although I doubt either of them would help us carry Texas, I think their story and their record as politicians would have a great appeal to democratic voters in general!

appalachiablue

(41,161 posts)
28. Yep. Dems. need to be bold IMO. Can't wait, this tract isn't working. Irish & Hispanic, East & West.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

Good for Marty Re the MD Dream Act, it's reality & progressive. Move Forward, in Backward Times, duh!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
25. Nope. Julian - much loved as mayor here.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

I think he's the better choice of the two if we're going to pick one at this point. I'd rather see them both get some more experience under their belts before throwing them to the wolves....but it does sound like a good ticket.

appalachiablue

(41,161 posts)
29. Either one but we can't wait. This tract isn't working; Dems. should be bold & smart.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:54 PM
Mar 2015

(VP Dan Quayle was a moron, the Castros are far superior in intellect & accomplishment. Fast learners-).

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
18. I'd like to see his positions on the drug war, Israel, and the prison industrial complex.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:33 PM
Mar 2015

I have other things I'd like to know too. I will never again vote for a drug warrior democrat like the Clintons so, I need to know these things. I also want to know what he thinks about welfare reform and if he would screw the poor again like the Clintons.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. Hmmm.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:37 PM
Mar 2015

Respect my right to shy away from foreign policy. (Apr 2013)
Israeli separation barrier might be called "peace wall". (Apr 2013)
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence. (Aug 2000)





I don't think it's a peace wall.
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
42. I don't think so either.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:59 PM
Mar 2015

He's not terribly nuanced on foreign policy...frankly, knowing the guy, I don't think he actually cares about foreign policy at all.

His comments on the topic generally sound like the sort of things one might say if they wanted to establish oneself as "not a lightweight on foreign policy" without actually having many thoughts on the subject by saying "the right things" in advance of a run for national office against an opponent considered exceptionally-strong on foreign policy.

I can't see him being an interventionist or a friend of the MIC. He really likes infrastructure spending too much to be a fan of big DoD budgets.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
43. Thank you. I'll keep him in mind.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:03 PM
Mar 2015

I could live with most of his positions and would prefer a candidate who cares more about home than abroad. I also like infrastructure spending.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. More cowbell.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:50 PM
Mar 2015

I dunno--lately he's been saying a lot of the right things. If he has a recent track record that confirms some history of dedication to those "right things," he's certainly worth a look.

I must confess that my first impression was that he was a tool of Wall Street & entirely too comfy with the C of C, but I could be presuaded…

Actually, my major concern is to see someone elected who is to the left of what passes for the "center" in this country.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
30. He doesn't have a history that people are aware of.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:00 PM
Mar 2015

Jeb Bush has more name recognition.
My guess he would not be real competitive with who ever the right runs.
He is to Dukakis and McGovern like
We need someone who can win not just someone who can say what we want to hear.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
59. This?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:18 PM
Mar 2015

'Mayor Martin O'Malley and his wife stood hand-in-hand outside City Hall yesterday to denounce "orchestrated" and "relentless" rumors about their marriage, while Democrats called for an independent investigation into the Ehrlich administration appointee who admitted spreading stories about the mayor on the Internet.

Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., saying he was "angry" about the actions of Joseph F. Steffen Jr., said he would consider asking the state prosecutor to look into his longtime campaign and congressional aide, who resigned Tuesday because of his postings about O'Malley on a Web site.'

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-te.md.resign10feb10-story.html#page=1

elleng

(131,028 posts)
71. Disappointed about what,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:32 PM
Mar 2015

that someone in the previous (repug) governor's office played games, and 'his' governor was thereafter defeated by then Mayor O'Malley?

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
69. It appears he and his wife were the target of a...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:27 PM
Mar 2015

smear campaign. I'm confused about the baggage you're referring to.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
77. Can get cleared up???
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:46 PM
Mar 2015

This was in 2005, and Mayor O'Malley was later elected GOVERNOR of MARYLAND, TWICE. It seems to me that it's BEEN 'cleared up.'

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
88. LOL, Republican Bob Ehrlich's staff spreads rumors about O'Malley using
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:25 PM
Mar 2015

Free Republic and you somehow think it reflects poorly on O'Malley? You think the article from 2005 needs clearing up?

x 100



merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. If the primary consists of, or boils down to, Hillary, O'Malley or Webb, O'Malley's going to get my
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:15 PM
Mar 2015

vote easily. I don't know what I will do if Sanders and Warren are also in it.

In 2008, I ruled out Biden as not a winner for the general.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
36. I'm in. :)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:17 PM
Mar 2015

I've known Marty for over 15 years...I worked for his Baltimore Mayoral campaign when I was in college. If he declares, I'm going to move back to DC to work for his campaign. I don't care if I have to sleep on a cardboard mat on the grate outside Foggy Bottom Station...I want to see him win.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
37. He sounds OK to me but can he overcome the giant money machine that is the Clinton campaign?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:20 PM
Mar 2015

My brother, who lives in MD tells me there was a ginormous and costly problem with the setup of the insurance exchange under Obamacare, which resulted in O'Malley's hand picked successor losing the 2014 gubernatorial election to a republican in such a blue state.

Is there anything to this and if so, can any of it be blamed on O'Malley? Because if there is, the Clintons and their surrogates will beat him unmercifully about the head and shoulders with it. Not to mention the republicans, should he become the candidate.

I could support him if for no other reason than his last name isn't Clinton.

charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
46. Brown lost because he ran a shitty campaign
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:49 PM
Mar 2015

And was a shitty candidate. Even O'Malley said as much. While the health care website was a debacle, it could've easily been overcome in a majority Democratic State if we had a better candidate.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
55. His lieutenant governor, Anthony Brown, set up the exchange badly,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:11 PM
Mar 2015

and then ran for governor after O'Malley was was 'term-limited' out, and failed in that attempt.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
38. I've been intending to support him in the Ohio primary for a long while now.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:23 PM
Mar 2015

Unless Al Gore stepped up for another run... which isn't going to happen.

I still believe Hillary Clinton will get the nomination though and I'll support her in the General Election if that turns out to be the case.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
44. I've been talking about OUR governor for the last nine years! Great guy who will make
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:10 PM
Mar 2015

a Great President!!

You had to know that your friend from next door would have to ring in!!!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
45. I can't think of any reasons.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:38 PM
Mar 2015

If he is on the primary ballot I will vote for him. If he wins that I will vote for him in the general. That doesn't mean I agree with him on all issues, but I am sure he can reasonably accommodate most of the concerns some people here have about him. Like foreign policy looks like there is room for growth and becoming more nuanced.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
93. And that is the whole purpose of the primary. Candidates travel from state to state
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:10 AM
Apr 2015

clarifying their message and then you get a better picture of who a candidate is and where they stand.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
47. O'Malley is OK, but Elizabeth Warren would win.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:56 PM
Mar 2015

Not so sure with O'Malley even though I like what he says.

He is very quiet. I would have to see whether he can connect emotionally with a crowd, get people excited enough to go out and vote nationwide.

I am sticking with Elizabeth Warren. Sorry. Even if she doesn't want to run, she should be the candidate.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
62. And again how many times has the lady said she is not running
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:23 PM
Mar 2015

Do we have to drag her into the race kicking and screaming? That won't look pretty.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
48. Because it is a woman's turn.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:57 PM
Mar 2015

And there is only one...and that is why I want to draft Warren.

And besides if Jeb is the one for the GOP it negates the dynasty problem he has...and I think he will be the one...so Hillary is Jeb's choice.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
64. So you would be willing to drag an unwilling woman into a race?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:24 PM
Mar 2015

She has said 'no' how many times.

I'm ready to move on.

I'm not going to force someone to be a candidate who doesn't want it. I'm not that type of person.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
76. Well hope springs eturnal.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:46 PM
Mar 2015

And untill she says "If nominated I will not run and if elected I will not serve" I will hope if you don't mind.

But without someone new, and I am not convinced that O'Mally is a real thing yet...he could be just a stalking horse for all I know of him, to stear progressives away from the Warren hope...and if so Hillary will be it, and I think Jeb will win...that is my opnion and you could call it a prediction.

We will see.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
79. I prefer to stick in the land of reality
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:52 PM
Mar 2015

Never has a candidate seem so unwilling like Elizabeth Warren nor a group of supporters seem so desperate.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
82. Well these are desperate times.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:12 PM
Mar 2015

And that is a reality that some cannot handle...better to pin your hopes on an illusion than to face the truth that we are being manipulated into the new world order of the corporate state.

Yes I know...it is a CT...because they would never do that.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
78. Or NOT to vote for his lieutenant governor,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:49 PM
Mar 2015

who handled ACA exchange badly, and ran a bad campaign.

You'll blame Governor O'Malley for that?



You DO know he was term-limited out, I hope.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
85. As well, there is a whole lot of bad stuff about his time as Mayor.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:28 PM
Mar 2015

Lots of complaints about arrests for minor offenses and such. He is also being looked at by the PTB for some campaign finance infractions.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
86. O'Malley was unable to run again due to term limits. He would
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:07 PM
Mar 2015

have easily won another term, but Maryland's loss is America gain.

O'Malley 2016!

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
66. I've been hoping for a Clinton/O'Malley ticket for years!
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:25 PM
Mar 2015

8 Obama, 8 Clinton & 8 O'Malley should just about fix the Nixon, Reagan, Bush & Bush crapfests and leave my granddaughter a better country for her future.

Frankly, I don't really care who gets the Dem nomination. I'll vote for the big D after the name.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
97. Stakes are higher with the internet, blogs, twitter, etc. Now more people get to see the blank
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:28 AM
Apr 2015

stare and associate it with him. The potential candidates know this and should be prepared to answer basic questions.
This was no gotcha question. He doesn't stand a chance.

Now if you are looking for alternative candidates that is great. I would agree, but I don't think this is going to be O'Malley.
Good luck.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
80. From what I've heard about O'Malley
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:02 PM
Mar 2015

he could be a great candidate. They sure are keeping this quiet in the MSM, it's all about Hillary.
Any idea when he will/might announce?

elleng

(131,028 posts)
84. 'Spring's' the last I heard.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:22 PM
Mar 2015

MSM's doing worse than 'keeping this quiet.' I was pissed at the way Lawrence show 'handled' him last night, actually 'handled' interview he'd done on Sunday show; they were RUDE, imo, and I complained to J. Capehart and the Lawrence show.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
87. I'm not yet sold on O'Malley.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:17 PM
Mar 2015

I need to learn more about him and see what his plan for the country is all about.

MineralMan

(146,322 posts)
100. No reason why not. He's welcome to toss his hat
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:15 AM
Apr 2015

into the ring. Once he does, he'll be subject to close inspection and analysis, just like all primary candidates. So far, the country knows very little about him. It will be up to him to make sure they learn about him. His name recognition outside of his own state and maybe surrounding states is very small. That's his first battle.

Anyone can announce a candidacy for the Democratic primaries. But, until they do, they're unlikely to be taken seriously, unless they've been long in the public eye. Time's wasting. Any relative unknown needs to get started right now, and O'Malley is an unknown at this point.

MineralMan

(146,322 posts)
103. I'm hoping the primary race starts taking shape.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:21 AM
Apr 2015

Elizabeth Warren has made it abundantly clear in the past couple of days that she is categorically NOT going to run. So, that's one possibility we can now forget about. Clearly, O'Malley is planning to enter the race, based on the past couple of weeks. Bernie Sanders is out there making news, so there's a good chance he'll be in it. I think we can count on Joe Biden to be in the primaries, but he'll end up being a solid supporter of Hillary Clinton, who is probably the one sure-fire candidate for the primaries, given the strong presence she seems to be making.

Who else? No idea. We'll see.

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