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WALKERTON, Ind. - A small-town pizza shop is saying they agree with Governor Pence and the signing of the controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
The O'Connor family, who owns Memories Pizza, says they have a right to believe in their religion and protect those ideals.
If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no, says Crystal O'Connor of Memories Pizza.
http://www.abc57.com/story/28681598/rfra-first-business-to-publicly-deny-same-sex-service
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)and there was nary a pizza in sight.
To think of it, I've been to a bunch of straight weddings and only my brother had little frozen pizzas and other tacky crap from Costco's frozen section (cheapskate).
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)has now told these Jesus loving freaks at the pizza joint that it is OK and legal to deny people based on religion. Nice work.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I think I'll phone in an order later.
And then forget to pick it up.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)The internet will take over and their little shop will be sunk. And besides, who orders up pizzas for their wedding?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"The O'Connor family told ABC 57 news that if a gay couple or a couple belonging to another religion came in to the restaurant to eat, they would never deny them service."
Which is way more likely than an order for wedding pizzas.
For now.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)I live in the south. I have personally witnessed merchants attempt to avoid serving black people. In fact I witnessed it in Ohio as well. I speak up when I see this, but the point is that it happens despite laws and Supreme Court decisions that very clearly outlaw racial discrimination in public accommodations.
With laws that actually protect discrimination now, why should we believe that any merchant will serve gay people?
spanone
(135,871 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)If not then they are full of shit.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)(About judging folks and not being a hypocrite.)
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)What about the un-married couples living in sin? What about the un-wed mothers?
This law is such bullshit.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)One of the photos being posted there along with the negative reviews:
Hugin
(33,198 posts)Or so I would hope.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)You know the rest.
tanyev
(42,610 posts)Never heard of it. So are they going to start quizzing all large orders as to what specific event the pizza is for?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)snip
I do not think it's targeting gays. I don't think it's discrimination, says O'Connor. It's supposed to help people that have a religious belief.
At least be honest about what you are doing.
metalbot
(1,058 posts)Lots of bigoted people and business owners will out themselves.
Major corporations (our evil overlords?!) are being very outspoken about their disapproval of this law.
It's driving near daily coverage of discrimination issues in national media.
Indiana has now effectively legalized marijuana use for churches.
Indiana's ban on polygamy would probably not pass the strict scrutiny tests of religious freedom.
Though I think it's the implementation of the last two that will drive Indiana to abandon this law rather than the first two.
dembotoz
(16,832 posts)and the store in very red area near where i live is always VERY busy
in the right bigot town this could be a great business boost for them.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)If that's the case - he just came out as Bi...
mainer
(12,029 posts)Which would include heterosexual weddings of other religions.
"Despite not believing that the bill would lead to targeted discrimination against members of the LGBT community, OConnor told the station that her establishment would use the bill to avoid having to cater events like gay or non-Christian weddings."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/backlash-is-swift-and-furious-after-indiana-pizza-restaurant-owner-brags-about-no-gays-policy/
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)get some of their sh** pizzas. What a business strategy (for going out of business.) Businesses that inject hatred and discrimination into a public business really are lame entrepreneurs in for the short term. Millions upon millions of people detest discrimination.
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)this pizzeria will not be serving ANY couples....
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Snow Leopard
(348 posts)End the reception with pizza. At least the few I've been to.
While I don't like their views, I hope the lynch mob doesn't happen to them.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)a lot of them.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)not saying it hasn't happened but I think it's not typical for Italians.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Read: Our crummy pizza is causing our business to fail, so we are hatingon teh gays as a marketing ploy, because the bigots will come in and buy our crummy product just because it gives them a chance to say "See? Aren't we SPESHUL? The law says we're better than teh gays and won't let them in here, so we can eat in this hatehole and feel superior!
Get a life, people. Hating people and discriminating against them doesn't mean you are special or superior, it means you are a lame loser.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)He's confused; a pizza store is not a church. A stores is open to the public, all those taxpayers who paid for all the government services and the infrastructure that he relies on to run his business. He can't have it both ways; the public that pays for all the necessities he needs to stay in business, is the same the public he is refusing to serve.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)for goods and services.
LeftinOH
(5,358 posts)on your website that clearly states whom you will not serve. It should be clearly posted for all to see ...just like the old "whites only" signs from the old days.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)How quickly they forget. And their biz is called Memories? You can't make this up.
Adding these idiots to my Bigot Biz List.
underpants
(182,877 posts)of the way we were
Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another for the way we were.
Can it be that it was all so simple then
Or has time rewritten every line
If we had the chance to do it all again, tell me, would we, could we
Memories may be beautiful and yet
What's too painful to remember we simply choose to forget
So it's the laughter we will remember
Whenever we remember the way we were.
The way we were.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)She has the right to marry her husband, she does not have the right to tell others who they should marry.
Kevin O'Connor, Crystal's father, says he believes the negative backlash the bill and its supporters are getting isn't fair.
That lifestyle is something they choose. I choose to be heterosexual. They choose to be homosexual. Why should I be beat over the head to go along with something they choose? says Kevin O'Connor.
Why do christians believe they have the right to tell others how to live their lives?
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)He said he chose to be Heterosexual
That lifestyle is something they choose. I choose to be heterosexual. They choose to be homosexual. Why should I be beat over the head to go along with something they choose?
Oh and check out their Yelp review page:
http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/memories-pizza-walkerton?select=PZ-MFF83J5eSWGXvWfwKkg#PZ-MFF83J5eSWGXvWfwKkg
Jenny Red Eye
(53 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)They also need to make sure all of the ingredients are grown in separate fields. They can't have employees who shave (hope they use face nets) and they can't serve or employ anyone who has tattoos.
If this bigotry is part of their "religion" they can't pick and choose, they need to REALLY follow the book they base this crap on.
I am sort of glad the bigots are showing their colors, I would prefer to know if I had been doing business with someone who thinks like this so I can stop giving them my money.
And I have been to many different weddings, including a lesbian wedding and one with a clown, and I have never seen pizza served. Even at the most casual ones.
Edited to add: they can't have sausage, pepperoni or Canadian bacon on the pizza either!
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)and cooking utensils for cooking meat and milk products. All because Deuteronomy 14:21 says "do not cook a young goat in it's mother's milk." Also Have to buy all new pizza ovens and utensils to make sure that milk and meat have never been cooked together otherwise they are breaking kosher laws.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)by using hate as bait to attract bigots.