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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts) Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:06 PM Apr 2015

Howard Dean lines up behind Netanyahu and Tom Cotton on Iran nuclear talks

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/237593-howard-dean-obama-should-walk-away-from-iran-talks

“I think John Kerry and Barack Obama are far, far too eager for a deal with Iran, and could actually get a better deal if they walked away from the table and possibly came back later,” Scarborough said. “Why am I wrong, Howard?”

“I actually think you’re right about this,” Dean replied, prompting an outburst of surprise from Scarborough.

Dean said the U.S. already had the upper hand in talks with Iran. By holding out on finishing them, he said the White House could secure a better deal for U.S. interests.

“The United States is negotiating from a much stronger position than four years ago,” Dean said.

“These guys are desperate to get rid of the sanctions,” he added, pointing out Tehran’s hunger for immediate economic relief.

This is exactly what Tom Cotton and Netanyahu have been arguing. Either Dean wants war like they do, or he's too stupid to realize what the US unilaterally torpedoing these negotiations would mean.

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Howard Dean lines up behind Netanyahu and Tom Cotton on Iran nuclear talks (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2015 OP

Dean governed as a "pragmatic moderate" (reads conservative), so this doesn't surprise me. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #1

His stated reasoning is completely at odds with the PNACkers' war ambitions... Orsino Apr 2015 #2

Aside from Iraq, Dean has been with AIPAC and PNAC. He supported US bombing of Syria, and now leveymg Apr 2015 #4

I listened to this exchange, I do not remember Dean lining up behind Cotton and Netanyahu, Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #3

He is talking about a negotiating tactic and negotiations with Iran. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #5

He is saying exactly what Netanyahu has been saying. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #6

I truly hope you can see the difference. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #7

They are saying the exact same thing: geek tragedy Apr 2015 #9

It's hard to admit being wrong JI7 Apr 2015 #8

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)

1. Dean governed as a "pragmatic moderate" (reads conservative), so this doesn't surprise me.

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:16 PM

Apr 2015

It also helps explain in part why he supports Hillary Clinton.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)

2. His stated reasoning is completely at odds with the PNACkers' war ambitions...

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:21 PM

Apr 2015

...but may play right into their hands.

He is at least pooh-poohing Iran as a threat, which is good to see.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)

4. Aside from Iraq, Dean has been with AIPAC and PNAC. He supported US bombing of Syria, and now

Reply to Orsino (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:39 PM

Apr 2015

is throwing his weight against a negotiated settlement with Iran. In other words, he's with Bibi and against Obama on these issues.

The PNAC regime change doctrine and roadmap to break the traditional dominance the US and constraints America has imposed on Israel's ambitions are laid out in Richard Perle's 1996 Clean Break document: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

3. I listened to this exchange, I do not remember Dean lining up behind Cotton and Netanyahu,

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:22 PM

Apr 2015

but maybe I missed the part about Dean wanting the same as Cotton and Netanyahu. There is too much jumping up and down, if Obama and Kerry were the only interested parties they may do things differently but they are not. It would be in the best interest of Israel to get a deal where Iran does not get nuclear weapons and Netanyahu is the loudest against a treaty, WTH.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

5. He is talking about a negotiating tactic and negotiations with Iran.

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:43 PM

Apr 2015

Not war. The difference couldn't be more night and day. I am pretty sure just about every single poster here has questioned the administrations ability to negotiate. What he said has nothing to do with Netanyahu or Cottons position.