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applegrove

(118,694 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 08:20 PM Apr 2015

This indiana law. In arkansas and Georgia too. One woman being interviewed said about not serving

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gays "Jesus died on the cross for me, this is the least I can do for him". So it is about religious people being closer to god. A grievance (gay people making inroads towards equal rights when being gay is against the bible) and an aspiration (closer to god) together in one action...which is how people in cults are manipulated. Or ISIS. That grievance-aspiration technique has been all over the news about how teens and young adults are being lured to Syria or Iraq to join ISIS. For ISIS recruits the grievance is not being big men in America or to be able to buy what they want or having access to the women they want (normal for young men anywhere), the aspiration is to be closer to allah and adrenaline. Did not take long for the GOP to jump on those two techniques in coming up with policy that fits its' very own religious base. The GOP obviously feels their religious base are just the people to be manipulated in the same way ISIS does its' base. As with racism and the southern strategy, this has nothing to do with the scapegoat (gays here) and everything to do with the GOP winning through wedge issues and then not paying taxes. They may well have worried that they were losing their religious base to walk the walkers like Pope Francis. After all the religious were put on this earth not to pass on God's love but to give power to the rich in their role as a wedge issue.

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This indiana law. In arkansas and Georgia too. One woman being interviewed said about not serving (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2015 OP
Yep. And there are a lot of bible belt Christians who really do seem to believe in that dissentient Apr 2015 #1
And there you have it gay folks! You're ISIS! leftofcool Apr 2015 #2
No. The manipulative grievance-aspiration technique is being used on the religious people who are applegrove Apr 2015 #3
Oh, ferchrissakes! 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #4
Exactly as Jesus never said a damn thing about homosexuality at all.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #8
Your OP shows customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #5
Oh so we can't discuss people who want to start discriminating? We can't analyze them? We can't say applegrove Apr 2015 #6
Where did I say any such thing? customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #7
 

dissentient

(861 posts)
1. Yep. And there are a lot of bible belt Christians who really do seem to believe in that
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 08:24 PM
Apr 2015

and they don't like gays because they think it is wrong according to the bible. I was watching "What would you do?" and there are several episodes revolving around homosexuals, and I saw plenty of prejudicial reactions, and people in certain regions just blatantly saying that they have a real problem with gays.

In other words, this feeling is still around, despite what some people in liberal cities and communities, where they are isolated from these people, may think.

applegrove

(118,694 posts)
3. No. The manipulative grievance-aspiration technique is being used on the religious people who are
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 08:27 PM
Apr 2015

discriminating against gays. The bigots are ISIS. The lgbt community are in no way ISIS in this analogy.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
8. Exactly as Jesus never said a damn thing about homosexuality at all....
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:15 PM
Apr 2015

and in Jesus's day...women didn't fall in love and get married....they were property.....they married who offered to pay her father the highest price often enough or who her father paid off to taker her off his hands as he was too poor to pay for her "upkeep"....so she was treated like a commodity...so saying refusing to treat Gay people equally and refusing to do business with them if its for a wedding ceremony is defending "Jesus's work" is the very height of blasphemy! The ultimate sin!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. Your OP shows
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:04 PM
Apr 2015

that for people who are "christian" who want to feel persecuted over something, even though that doesn't truly happen in America, this will do.

They're going to stiffen their spines over this, and will demand that their elected officials do the same. It's odd what happens to a people of one state who feel picked on.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. Where did I say any such thing?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:18 PM
Apr 2015

All I'm pointing out is that people who have a need to feel persecuted will find all they want from this issue.

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