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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:14 PM Apr 2015

Scientology a main force behind Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Marty Rathbun's blog.

Marty Rathbun was an executive officer of the Scientology church until he left several years ago. He was featured on HBO's Going Clear documentary. Very outspoken. His blog is called Moving On Up a Little Higher.

Scientology and Religious Freedom Restoration Act

The blowback over Indiana governor Pence’s signing into law ‘The Religious Freedom Restoration Act’ has gone viral. Prominent citizens, politicians and human rights groups are aghast as the act’s potential for instituting discrimination against those who don’t toe the line to fundamentalist Christian sexual orientation standards. In defense of signing the act into law Indiana’s governor Pence has said it was based on the 1993 federal ‘Religious Freedom Restoration Act.’ See New York Times for more on the Act.

...“In 1991, Scientologists supported passage of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which was signed into law on November 16, 1993. The Church of Scientology International was an active member of the Coalition for the Free Exercise of Religion, a broad-based religious and civil liberties group that strenuously worked for passage of the act.” Scientology website

Scientology was so involved in its passage that its president was invited to the White House for the President Clinton’s signing of the original federal act. (President Heber C. Jentzsch crowed about it on Larry King Live)


Scientology invited to the White House for the signing of the federal RFRA? Now that shocked me.

And these paragraphs really surprised me.

What scientology doesn’t tout is that it shamelessly exploited the Act even before its final enactment. As it was wending its way through Congress, which scientology was directly and indirectly lobbying, scientology was using its imminent passage as leverage in obtaining tax exempt status from the Internal Revenue Service.

Scientology has used the federal Act for more than two decades to not only discriminate against the LGBT community, but also to immunize itself against charges ranging from human trafficking, to wrongful death, to fraud.


Here's some more Marty Rathbun outspokenness. He talks openly about Lisa McPherson's death. I had not kept up with that issue, was surprised to learn that her doctor had allowed her license to lapse after being "busted" by the AZ Board of Medicine.




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Scientology a main force behind Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Marty Rathbun's blog. (Original Post) madfloridian Apr 2015 OP
Rathbun points to a case in 2014 in which church used the RFRA madfloridian Apr 2015 #1
I just watched the documentary "Going Clear". progressoid Apr 2015 #2
they sure threw quite the party m-lekktor Apr 2015 #3
Esp. the part where they bullied the IRS with lawsuits. madfloridian Apr 2015 #4
oh i know m-lekktor Apr 2015 #5
Yeah, progressoid Apr 2015 #9
i agree. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #18
Religion is the enemy of democracy and common decency. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #8
Damn tootin'!! hifiguy Apr 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #6
Every special interest Religion (tm) was in on it, be sure Demeter Apr 2015 #7
The digger you deep maindawg Apr 2015 #10
As bad as the Scientalogy church is we need to remember that the bill passed in 1993 is not the jwirr Apr 2015 #11
From Rathbun's blog I posted. madfloridian Apr 2015 #15
Then why is everyone saying that the two bills are not alike and that the older federal one did jwirr Apr 2015 #16
I am not sure about the difference. madfloridian Apr 2015 #19
The IN law explicitly applies to for-profit businesses. LeftyMom Apr 2015 #23
scientology backed the federal rfra because it meant tax relief to them passiveporcupine Apr 2015 #12
Scientology is an incredible evil that must be extinguished. Initech Apr 2015 #13
The South Park Episode about Scientology is a classic. It is online. nt Logical Apr 2015 #14
Here's the link. lovemydog Apr 2015 #21
Thanks for this!! nt Logical Apr 2015 #22
link to White House petition to revoke tax exempt status for Scientology AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2015 #17
Thanks for the link. madfloridian Apr 2015 #20

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
2. I just watched the documentary "Going Clear".
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:22 PM
Apr 2015

That is some scary stuff. If people get the chance to watch it, DO IT.

While their active membership is falling, they have deep pockets.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
3. they sure threw quite the party
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

to celebrate becomng tax exempt ! that documentary was a horror flick as far as I am concerned.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
5. oh i know
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:36 PM
Apr 2015

bullies that got away with bullying. Also, Tom Cruise gives me the creeps even more than he did before i saw that documentary.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
9. Yeah,
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:24 PM
Apr 2015

in the past, I sort of gave him a pass, but there is no way he doesn't know what's going on if he's that high up. I don't think he's that sheltered or naive.

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. As bad as the Scientalogy church is we need to remember that the bill passed in 1993 is not the
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:38 PM
Apr 2015

same bill as Pence just signed. I don't know where Scientology stands on the discrimination in this last bill.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
15. From Rathbun's blog I posted.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:34 PM
Apr 2015
Scientology has used the federal Act for more than two decades to not only discriminate against the LGBT community, but also to immunize itself against charges ranging from human trafficking, to wrongful death, to fraud


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. Then why is everyone saying that the two bills are not alike and that the older federal one did
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:54 PM
Apr 2015

not authorize discrimination? As far as the Scientologists - they do not seem to care what the laws are. They did do these things already - they did not need this new law. rw churches did. They are the ones pushing the latest bill. Scientology may be joining in with the rw churches but they are not doing it alone.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
19. I am not sure about the difference.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:59 PM
Apr 2015

Rathbun may have meant Scientology used it the wrong way. It's confusing to me as well.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
23. The IN law explicitly applies to for-profit businesses.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:58 PM
Apr 2015

The Federal RFRA and all of the other state RFRAs save South Carolina's do not.

That's the enormous difference.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
12. scientology backed the federal rfra because it meant tax relief to them
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:17 PM
Apr 2015

it had nothing to do with gays. It is not the same issue that states are trying to pass now.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
13. Scientology is an incredible evil that must be extinguished.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

Their evil and greed knows no boundaries.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,251 posts)
17. link to White House petition to revoke tax exempt status for Scientology
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:55 PM
Apr 2015
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status

I admire the people who are brave enough to speak out against them. When you leave this cult they come after you hard. 15,000 signatures on this petition already.
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