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Fri Apr 03, 2015 at 01:21 PM PDT
Statistics Show The End is Near For Rush Limbaugh
by TBTM Julie
Numbers don't lie, and telltale signs like Rush Limbaugh ranting daily about #StopRush suggest all is not well in Limbaughland. Desperate to convince advertisers to return to his show, Limbaugh floats the meme that only 10 people are protesting him. Hundreds of thousands of visits to Stoprush.net show this to be grossly incorrect.
Additionally, Limbaugh's media henchman, Brian Glicklich is attempting to launch an all out media war against Twitter's corporate counsel - who just happens to be a minority woman. So far, Glicklich's efforts have been mostly ignored, quite possibly as Glicklich makes an odd spokesman for Twitter safety after being suspended FOUR TIMES for Targeted Harassment of several women on Twitter.
Sideshow antics aside, the real reason the Rush Limbaugh Show is doomed is simple: businesses don't want to risk alienating customers who will be using their brands for the next 50 years to appease an aging Limbaugh demographic that likely will be dead in the next ten years or so.
Read more to see all the gory details, including charts and sources.
Limbaugh's troubles boil down to simple business principles: his audience is getting older, and new generations aren't buying his hate speech. How long will the iHeartRadio CFO watch his sales tank and stock crumble to save the Great White Male, Rush Limbaugh?
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/03/1375424/-The-End-is-Near-For-Rush-Limbaugh?detail=facebook_sf#
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,170 posts)Still I think someone like the Koch bros. would pay to keep Limpblob out there because he's useful to them.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And I won't believe he's gone until he's off Armed Forces radio and off the air completely.
He's spawned worse than he is and at one time it was hard to believe such were possible.
Believe it, the proof is in the voters that are enacting all he said he wanted to accomplish, which is the Koch Agenda as described by Reid and Sanders from the Libertarian platform.
A generation of shredded consciences is his legacy and it will be hard to put this nation back together, if at all.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)I would LOVE to see Rush gone more than anyone but this is just wishful thinking...There is enormous amounts of money out there flowing into his radio show without the need for main stream advertisers.
Seriously, people have been saying stuff like this for years now & they will continue saying it for years to come. Unfortunately, Rush is not going anywhere anytime soon.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)There's going to come a point at which they realise that they're just flushing money down the toilet.
brewens
(13,618 posts)votes.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Rush claims to have "talent on loan from God" Maybe God does not like the way Rush uses it, and is recalling it?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)a way for the Kochs, rightwing organizations, Heritage-type foundations, and PNAC types to get someone else to pay for what they want. The worst thing for them would be to have to underwrite his show and the rest of the rightwing hate shows themselves.
Thing is, they will. As long as Limpbough and the rest of Hate Radio does their bidding. What has disappeared is liberal talk radio. There's no equivalent financial support to underwrite liberal shows.
We'll never be rid of the rightwing hatemongers.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Oh, you meant his career as a propagandist for the 1%. THAT is the only reason they keep him. He serves the interests of the 1% by dividing the working class.
RandiFan1290
(6,239 posts)and he knows where we live!!!
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)His 'blue babies'
joanbarnes
(1,723 posts)project_bluebook
(411 posts)He would just claim the gays ran him out of business and sucker dumbass republicans to donate millions to his cause, kind of like that bigoted pizza shop in Indiana.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Mira
(22,380 posts)and ended a stinky movement
calimary
(81,440 posts)Sign: Limbaugh Sponsor & Clear Channel Petition
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valerief
(53,235 posts)earned the honor to write his obit. And to dance on his grave.
certainot
(9,090 posts)we could be rid of that rw radio monopoly and a lot of those limbaugh stations, and make a lot available for liberal talkers if college students and faculty and employees around the country would stop allowing their schools to support/endorse it.
90 major universities (at least) rent their mascots to more than 267 limbaugh stations in one of the most self-destructive shoot-yourself-in-the-foot business relationships in history. the radio portion is a very small portion of the overall sports broadcasting media revenues but it means a lot to those stations and limbaugh overall to be able to put those logos all over those ALEC/GOP/koch bros hate mongering lying soapboxes. it brings them community and state credibility and lots of ad revenue.
those relationships are completely antithetical to the goals stated in most college mission statements.
in wisconsin for instance, the university of wisconsin badgers are bringing big bucks to those two limbaugh radio stations that scott walker has been using successfully since he started terrorizing WIS.
all it would take is a few major unis declaring they won't renew those contracts with that licensing company unless they exclude political talk radio. others would be shamed into following. most stations would have to change format, offer balance, or lose a lot of business. that would open up a lot of opportunities for the liberal talkers, previously excluded by the rw's monopoly power, and i'd bet if even just 20% of talk radio was liberal (as opposed to 5%) it would make a huge difference in US politics. as it is now the rw gets a free speech free ride.
from republicanradio.org:
The urgency of climate change makes it imperative for those schools to take their mission statements seriously and find apolitical alternatives for broadcasting sports.
For 25 years talk radio has played a significant part in enabling denial by politicians and delaying US action to reduce carbon emissions. Rush Limbaugh and other talkers had a major role in selling the East Anglia email hoax that climate scientist Michael Mann says may have delayed climate action for years.
Republican radio stations:
push for deregulation and continued subsidization of fossil fuels, including by fracking
promote Republican candidates who will increase fossil fuel dependency
broadcast guest climate and energy experts from think tanks funded by the fossil fuel industry
attack advocates and legislation that promote solutions
intimidate scientists, politicians, and media
Most of the programming on Republican radio stations is inconsistent with the stated goals of our institutions of higher learning and the interests of their students.
Republican radio stations are also used to:
attack science and scientists that interfere with corporate deregulation
influence elections for university regents and choices for university presidents
attack teachers
promote strategies used to defund and privatize public education, reduce teacher salaries and benefits, and destroy teacher unions
oppose legislation and tax reform that would lower tuition rates
make student voting harder
use hate, bigotry, and disinformation to divide communities, elect Republicans, and sell the Republican agenda
Radio licensing revenue is a minor part of overall sports licensing revenues. In 2013/14, a radio station will pay $1500 to Westwood One/Dial Global for a championship NCAA basketball game. How much of that goes to the university? Details of licensing agreements between state funded schools and licensing companies are usually kept confidential, even from school administration.
Our schools need to rework their licensing contracts. If there is a penalty, perhaps donors can be found to make up the difference.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)You'd never know it; the "buzz" he once generated being completely gone.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)in a truck stop bathroom when the vent fan goes out. the GOP clown car runs on it and will continue to until the left finally stops giving it a free speech free ride.
that buzz is not as well coordinated with the GOP as it used to be under rove but there are still 400 coordinated blowtrolls out there on 1000 unchallenged radio stations screaming the exact same shit he does.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)... in the same kind of generalizations as El Rushbo himself. To dismiss his listening audience as a small group of feeble geezers who will "likely will be dead in the next ten years or so" is dangerous and inaccurate.
It bothers me when liberals imply we can just "wait out" the conservative demographic because, you know, they're all dying off. NO, they are not. They raise kids, there are Young Republicans... there's my own family members... Republicans aren't just a bunch of oldsters, folks, and we'd do well to remember that, while they get a lot of bad press, they're still a force to be reckoned with. For starters -- they obviously VOTE a lot.
Whoops: Sorry, I see you were quoting from the original piece at DailyKos!
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blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Trust us.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)The "wating out" of the hard-right demographic to die out can't be taken in an oversiplified manner. By that, I mean it's true technically but it's not a one-time watershed event, and their irrelevance may not be reality in a lot of our lifetimes. It happens slowly in a long shallow slope. They are dying out, and yes, they do have "young republican" kids, but they're being backfilled at a slower rate than they're dying off.
Consider this admittedly anecdotal evidence though: I live and work in a red state; interact with 100+ people a day. I compare notes with those with people like me who do the same, as well as with conservative friends/relatives. Allowing for the proverbial adults bitching about the younger deneration dynamic that's been around forever; a noticeable truth stands out: Metaphorically speaking; I hear about so so many right-wingers basically lamenting on how their kids aren't becoming the bigoted fascist assholes that they are. They're really dismayed over this. That the right is getting smaller just seems to continue this pattern....even help it along as the right gets meaner and more concentrated.
Shit: I used to be a dittohead republican until the late 90's when I was young and stupid.
certainot
(9,090 posts)to them in their media. and i've even seem progressives on liberal blogs repeating the same well-established lies (such as clinton related) - probably because they grew up with it hearing it around the dinner table.
ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)Speed the day
allan01
(1,950 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 5, 2015, 08:46 PM - Edit history (2)
upon edit: 0ur local lush rimshod station at 1450 is 490 watts erp. i will be glad , glad , glad when he is finaly gone .
alp227
(32,047 posts)as a lot of "news talk" stations in America are 50 kW signals, like Rush's NYC station WOR 710.
certainot
(9,090 posts)if your station pays your state uni to broadcast their sports they'd be in deep shit if your community and those students convinced the uni to look for apolitical alternative radio stations.
90 unis broadcast on 267 limbaugh stations
just announcing that the uni was not going to renew their relationship with that media licensing co would scare the crap out of the radio station, and their advertisers, and would force them to change format, offer balance (which doesn't work for the uni-toned propaganda), or lose a lot of advertisers.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)Hmmm, here's stoprush.net from the O.P. Only 42 national sponsors (1100 locals). What's with Vermont teddybears and Flowers/com. Then there's the Disabled American Veterans!1 and YMCA, plus lumber liquidators. Is Star Registry for real?!1
panader0
(25,816 posts)Rush has been a fixture for years. I hated it, but the station is basically controlled by the advertisers (they place ads in shows they pick), and she nor I had any say.
Imagine my joy when she told me that Rush and Hannity are finally being dropped (to be replaced by a Classic Country station).
This group of stations (Cherry Creek Radio, a privately owned group) has about 45 stations in small towns in the West.
Goodbye Rush.... At last.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Hannity and O'Liely need to follow quickly.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)republicans didn't even care except to keep the website up and running the 'news propaganda' tabloid stories.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)In SW Ohio alone. Unfortunately, he isn't going anywhere.
certainot
(9,090 posts)get OSU to declare they wont renew their contract with their sports media licensing co if they keep using those KKK stations and will look for apolitical stations, and those stations will either have to change format or lose a LOT of advertisers.
OSU is one of 90+ universities broadcasting on 267+ limbaugh stations
there's no excuse for any uni to endorse the hate, lies, global warming denial, and anti-public ed propaganda- most of those schools have mission statements that would prohibit it if they took them seriously.
and schools like that would be great places to protest any anti republican bullshit and hate until the uni pulled its logo off those GOP soapboxes
7962
(11,841 posts)Football season is 10-12 games, limbaugh is on EVERY DAY. Whatever ratings he's getting, its gonna add up to more than 10 big days of football. Not that i work in radio or anything
certainot
(9,090 posts)advertisers use those stations because they have dominating signals and they are a big part of their communities re news, weather, sports, traffic. the station and it's call letters are strongly associated with those schools and heavily dependent on them. the act by a school of thinking about pulling sports from a station would require media to pay attention and ask the school why. advertisers would notice.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)He is over 60 as is his audience. They will die off together. Of course I want the generation to live forever since my parents were part of it at 68 years old (both).
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)He'll be at retirement age anyway and, with his hundreds of millions, he can be as comfortable and insulated as he wants. The damage is done and he's going to get away with it. Hell even that whole drug addiction thing and the stupendously obvious hypocrisy of it all had practically zero negative consequences for him. Justice is not always served.
The Wizard
(12,547 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Limbaugh rose as a reaction to the boring, local topical talk that became popular in the 80s, but seldom held the interest of folks under 50. He came up about the same time as Morton Downey, Jr. who was cut from the same cloth. For a lot of people -- especially if you had a vehicle that only got AM (yes -- in the 80s, they existed), he was often the most exciting thing on.
Today, people can stream audio through their phones, and the prized 25-54 male audience spends more of their AM radio time on the myriad sports/talk networks.
So while I applaud the efforts of #StopRush , mostly it's just that his act has worn thin.
certainot
(9,090 posts)few people and 2 senators, it is still the only free alternative for politics while driving or working. that's a near-captive audience, still used to dominate/enable/intimidate politics and media in many states, and create national buzz for any story they want.
and a lot of that audio that's being streamed does not compete with or directly counter that giant lying buzz machine.
what rush does, still, is reinforced by 400 other blowtrolls. while is got of lot of subsidization to build the monopoly most of it has been practically free advertising for the GOP/ALEC/koch bros for 25 years- advertisers payed for station costs, etc..
thanks to stoprush that mega PSYOPS is now costing them a lot.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Most people don't want to listen to alternative politics. They want an alternative to politics. That's why ESPN Radio, Fox Sports Radio, CBS Sports Radio, and NBC Sports radio are now well represented in many areas. Religion, Radio Disney, Oldies-music and Spanish-language programming tend to dominate the rest of the bandwidth.
Most of the prized 25-54 demographic has smart phones. Democracy Now and plenty of lefty programming can be streamed anywhere data is available. Of course, so can a lot of other shows. When streaming comes directly to car radio (already available -- just not widely), it's going to be a game changer for all radio programming.
certainot
(9,090 posts)everything the right does depends on rw radio to do the groundwork repetition, which is why the party is so fucked up now.
unfortunately, stoprush has been the only real challenge to it from the left in 25 years, and that's a specifically targeted action aimed at one guy.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)would have to cook up a new bullshit excuse to tell us about WHY they HAVE to "Go Right." Right now, "bi-partisanship" STILL WORKS.......Cuz, who else ya gonna vote fer?!?!
Cha
(297,542 posts)as limbaugh?
New generations aren't buying his stchick!
Mahalo babylonsistah!
tenisfin
(36 posts)While Rush and Hannity are broadcast on AM 1150 here in LA, KABC 790, which until recently broadcast all right-wing hate, is now populated by the likes of Dr. Drew, Jillian Barberi, Judge Cristina and a couple of moderate Repub guys who don't focus much on politics. This station is obviously moving away from the hate radio. Having said that, they do broadcast Dennis Miller but he's on after 11pm.
calimary
(81,440 posts)Glad you're here! That was a very gloomy day here in L.A. when KTLK (1150AM) turned to Excrement in Broadcasting. Changed call letters, as well. Wall-to-wall hate radio and they've rebranded it "The Patriot"! I'm sure they thought it'd do something for the numbers, but that station's ratings have not improved. Shitty signal, too, so there's not a whole lot they could do anyway.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and some of them will join in in more subtle ways.
for instance george nouri (late night show) is usually about ghosts and aliens but he's had 'experts' on to do global warming denial- motherfuckers
merrily
(45,251 posts)not step in to save him and/or other hatemongers.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Like the Savage Wiener, who will do the same job of spewing hate for a fraction of the cost. Poor Rushbo priced himself out of the market.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)my friend in the UK says he would be thrown in jail as racist abuse is illegal there.
proud to be a part of the #stoprush movement.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)But, who are they grooming to take his place to spew hatred to the new generation of bigots?
Blue Owl
(50,489 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)He'll just take his millions to the Dominican Republic and spend it on whatever perverted entertainment he's partial to.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)while driving and working- that's a huge near-captive audience. a lot of that is the republican base.
and altogether with the 400 other rush wannabe blowtrolls (reaching 50 mil a week) reinforcing the same think tank scripted propaganda, they're going to intimidate and enable a lot of political and media bullshit and win a lot of elections in 2016- a lot more than they would if the left would stop ignoring them.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)station on the radio. The far right has even dominated shortwave radio, beaming their hateful message around the world, link enclosed. Where is the left in any of this, I often wonder.
American Extremists Use Technology to Broadcast Hate Worldwide
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2001/fall/from-america-with-hate
certainot
(9,090 posts)subsidize and buy up a monopoly of radio stations and exclude liberal talkers as much as possible. it was NOT a market based selective process, as the rw talking points suggest.
worst of all, the left basically ignores it while it kicks our ass
thanks for the link....
here's some excerpts from the army PSYOPS manual on the effectiveness of radio for propaganda, from republiconradio.org:
THE US ARMY WOULD CALL IT PSYOPS
Heres what the US Army Psyops Manual says about using radio for propaganda (Psychological Operations Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures 12/2003 - available online):
Repetition is necessary for oral learning; therefore, key themes, phrases, or slogans should be repeated to ensure the TA (target audience) gets the desired message.
Talk radio is much better than TV, print, and internet for doing just that.
According to the PSYOPS manual, advantages of radio include:
Emotional Power: A skilled radio announcer can exert tremendous influence on the listener simply with pitch, resonance, inflection, or timing. and The emotional tone conveyed by the voice may influence the listener more than the logic of arguments.
Or, as Limbaugh would call it, "talent on loan from god".
Wide coverage: Radio programs can reach members of large and varied audiences simultaneously. and Since radio can reach mass TAs quickly, radio is useful for all types of PSYOPs.
Speed: Radio programs can be quickly prepared for broadcast. Speed is important when attempting to capitalize on targets of opportunity.
Perfect for spinning and distorting breaking news.
Ease of perception: Radio requires little or no effort to visualize the radio message. Illiteracy does not prevent the listener from forming his individual image as he listens.
Joe Turner
(930 posts)Of course there is always the Faux News Flop House for washed-up and discredited republicans.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I picture him settling down in his version of paradise,...the Dominican Republic with unlimited Viagra getting blown by black male child prostitutes.
Oh,....and Happy Easter.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, remain in the spotlight.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
."It" is near the end at all. Rush, the individual may be gone, but Rushism will live on.
Corporations will bring in a younger, more attractive, more camoflauged version. He'll speak in better code, better hiding his bile, but basically spread the same poison and rile up the same hate in the ditto-heads, who will demand to be fed.
Rushism is like Reaganism. It doesn't matter that St. Ronnie is dead. He's still transforming and dominating our economy.
certainot
(9,090 posts)the left went on the offensive.
the rw radio monopoly, including about 270 rush stations, depends heavily on 90 major university sports programs. if some were convinced to look for apolitical alternatives others would follow and there's be a hell of a lot of major rw stations having to decide whether to change formats or lose a lot of advertisers.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
heard a more general story of RW radio possibly changing format and terminating all those creeps?
All I've heard is that radio in general is considering not having any political programming at all. Which takes us back to Dr. Laura (covert RW) type things. Or blather about life style or celebs.
I guess anything is better than Rush and Rushism, but I have no expectation that the left will mount an effective offensive in any massive way. The core works really hard for progressive change, but the whole definition of discourse has been moved way right and most Americans are disengaged.
FOX news is the essence of Rushism and its ratings prevail.
If Rush retires and has more time on his hands, they better seal the borders of the countries that allow sex tourism.
certainot
(9,090 posts)they have. i hadn't heard that.
if stoprush is costing the big radio companies that much that they would take off all political programming that would rank at the top in left activist successes. there would be nothing to stop the smaller owners from continuing if they wanted to and could make it. then pretty soon the ones that were actually just trying to make money at it as opposed to follow the rw talk model might find out they might make more money with liberal talkers.
there is also the possibility that the GOP establishment is now tired of their own monster pushing them into the irrational rhelms of politics as it has, especially since rove lost the reins. they may finally be tired of blowtrolls like rush advancing loons and idiots like palin and cruz.
I have no expectation that the left will mount an effective offensive in any massive way.
i agree, the left's strategy has been to ignore it for the last 25 years, but stoprush, a s limited and small as it is, is costing them huge money. all it would take is a few unis to be convinced to pull out of rw radio and others would be shamed into following. the stations would have to either change formats or lose a lot of advertisers.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
.you're right.
I should clarify--- the reason stations are dropping all political talk, left or right, is that they don't want the trouble that comes with political talk, on both sides.
If the left defends Ferguson protestors, for example advertisers hear from Tea baggers about that and on and on. So no political talk is safe from the corporate point of view. Thus, they want to drop it all, is the rumor I've heard.
But I see your point and hope it comes to pass. I think radio is a powerful vehicle.
certainot
(9,090 posts)that advertisers and ad sellers and the RW are falsely equating the two.
liberal talkers don't depend on hate, lies, racism and sexism to sell their product. there are a lot of blue areas (including most red areas) with no liberal talk and multiple overlapping rw talkers. the proportion is 95% to 5% or so- that is not a true representation of the american market for politics on radio while working and driving. if stations are dropping liberal format and the big station owners are dropping liberal format, it's not because of market forces, it's because they're punishing them and trying to maintain their monopoly.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Every time, we are disappointed. I've learned not to get my hopes up.
BumRushDaShow
(129,376 posts)Their top 10 includes 7 lunatics, 2 liberals, and an all-over--the-map entertainer (Stern).
If Clear Channel did decide to drop him, he'll probably do a Beck with an online subscription show and/or satellite.... but at least he would be off the public airwaves.
ileus
(15,396 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)you cut off a head and more come to replace it. I am pretty sure the thing to do is pull out it's heart and stomp on it. And the only way to do that is to keep being the excellent people that we are and rub their faces in it. Like how Minnesota is kicking Wisconsin's ass numbers wise.
7962
(11,841 posts)Why bother at that age?
marble falls
(57,162 posts)Still makes me laugh!
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)Clear Channel has been losing money on Rush for a whole but I expect the contract to be renewed on some basis. Will Rush work for less money? His ego may prevent this.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)of some pharmaceutical. Hopefully it will also make a penis grow out of his forehead.