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Big Blue New York could be in play for 2016. The battle of the burbs. (Original Post) CK_John Apr 2015 OP
I apologize for being crude but I would literally bet my errrr any Dem carries NY in 2016. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #1
Just where do upu get these ludicrous scenarios? HERVEPA Apr 2015 #2
I love CK_John. His prognostications make me smile. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #3
Pray tell us your best opinion, your BS is getting old. CK_John Apr 2015 #4
My best opinion is HERVEPA Apr 2015 #14
I feel the same way when they said Georgis will go blue in 2012 yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #22
I don't know, but they should share whatever they are smoking still_one Apr 2015 #26
Well, he says below he doesn't smoke. Perhaps he needs to. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #29
I suspect most New Yorkers have forgotten who George Pataki is. marmar Apr 2015 #5
He was kind of an accidental governor any way... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #11
3 term Gov (12yrs in office) is no accident. CK_John Apr 2015 #12
The fine people of New York must either have forgotten about him or don't remember him fondly DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #15
With a 5.4 margin of error, that could be Pataki 11.4 and Bush at 7.6. CK_John Apr 2015 #20
Or it could be Bush 18.4 % and Pataki 1.4%/NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #21
True so the poll isn't worth anything now with only 1 candidate in the race. CK_John Apr 2015 #25
There are a dozen or so candidates in the race unless you are going to hang your hat ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #27
Cruz is the only announced candidate. CK_John Apr 2015 #28
Yeah DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #30
UNREC brooklynite Apr 2015 #6
You're mean DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #7
George is the designated hitter for Mitt. CK_John Apr 2015 #9
You've nailed this one. Chan790 Apr 2015 #13
Kinda early to be hitting the sauce, don't you think? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #8
Don't smoke, drink, or use non prescription drugs, I prefer reality. CK_John Apr 2015 #10
Perhaps if you drank, smoked, or used non-prescription drugs you might get closer to reality. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #16
Still no opinion just BS. CK_John Apr 2015 #17
Opinion is above in the thread, where you asked for it. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #19
Hmm. Chan790 Apr 2015 #18
LOL. Pataki won't make it past his primary. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #23
He might not even vote for himelf Renew Deal Apr 2015 #42
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA spanone Apr 2015 #24
Pataki? I live about 10 miles from his family’s farm dorkzilla Apr 2015 #31
We'll have to wait until mid July of 2016 to find out. IMO the ticket will be CK_John Apr 2015 #33
Jill Biden, that would be interesting./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #34
Pataki/Fiorina? say “hi” to the Easter Bunny while you’re at it! nt dorkzilla Apr 2015 #37
For what office? Surely you're not suggesting the presidency? JHB Apr 2015 #32
The era of the teabaggers are over, they need to move to the moderate center. CK_John Apr 2015 #35
They've lost their steam, but they're going to be stickier... JHB Apr 2015 #36
Pataki won't win a single state Renew Deal Apr 2015 #39
Your post is meritless. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #38
. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #40
trolling? JI7 Apr 2015 #41

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
1. I apologize for being crude but I would literally bet my errrr any Dem carries NY in 2016.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:36 AM
Apr 2015

The last time the Republicants won NY at the presidential level was 1984.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
3. I love CK_John. His prognostications make me smile.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:40 AM
Apr 2015

I have as much chance of wresting the Republicant domination for president as George Pataki.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
14. My best opinion is
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:59 AM
Apr 2015

that your predictions perhaps may be valid in some alternative universe, but not this one.`
I'd love to know what you base them on.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
29. Well, he says below he doesn't smoke. Perhaps he needs to.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:33 PM
Apr 2015

His current reality seems a bit skewed.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
15. The fine people of New York must either have forgotten about him or don't remember him fondly
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:00 PM
Apr 2015

The fine people of New York must either have forgotten about him or don't remember him fondly, including Republicans who give him a desultory six percentage points of their votes:

http://www.politico.com/p/polls/person/latest/george-pataki#.VSFbaPnF_Xo

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
27. There are a dozen or so candidates in the race unless you are going to hang your hat ...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:25 PM
Apr 2015

There are a dozen or so candidates in the race unless you are going to hang your hat on a technicality like filing papers.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
30. Yeah
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:34 PM
Apr 2015

Walker, Bush, Carson, Rubio, Huckabee, Perry, Santorum, Huckabee et all aren't running...

In the highly unlikely event it's just going to be Cruz v Pataki my money is on Cruz over the bland and uninspiring New York Republican party apparatchik , George Pataki.

brooklynite

(94,703 posts)
6. UNREC
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:45 AM
Apr 2015

...for total laziness.

No explanation of why George Pataki would have a chance in hell of winning the Republican nomination.

No explanation as to why someone who's been out of office for 10 years would have the remotest appeal to New York voters.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
13. You've nailed this one.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

The first thought I had as I read this was those small handful of Chicken-Little posters who were convinced that Rudy Giuliani was an existential threat to Democrats' chances to win the Presidency in 2008 because he was going to turn the entire Northeast red. This was well past the point he was being ridiculed as Rudy "Noun, Verb, 9/11" Giuliani.

Tacky's only a threat in the same sense that Lake Michigan would be in danger of combustion if water had the same physical properties as gasoline. It ends with an inevitable conclusion having started from an impossible premise and never crossing into the possible at any point in the chain of reasoning.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
19. Opinion is above in the thread, where you asked for it.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:04 PM
Apr 2015

Is there something else specific you would like my opinion on. I'd be delighted to oblige.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
31. Pataki? I live about 10 miles from his family’s farm
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:08 PM
Apr 2015

which also happens to be about 10 miles from Hilary’s home. I can assure you, even this close to his home base, there is NO WAY he’d carry Westchester.

If he runs, he wouldn’t even make it past the primary. No one likes him here, and there is no way an East Coast Republican will get the nod from the party (unless it happens to be super-crazy Paul Le Page). Ain’t gonna happen.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
33. We'll have to wait until mid July of 2016 to find out. IMO the ticket will be
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:16 PM
Apr 2015

Pataki/Fiorina vs Hillary/Biden.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
32. For what office? Surely you're not suggesting the presidency?
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:12 PM
Apr 2015

How is Pataki's support among teabaggers and the religious right?

And wouldn't the things he'd have to say to win support in those quarters cost him support in NY, removing his main alleged advantage?

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
35. The era of the teabaggers are over, they need to move to the moderate center.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:23 PM
Apr 2015

Pataki came out for repeal in Indiana.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
36. They've lost their steam, but they're going to be stickier...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:27 PM
Apr 2015

...for the Republicans to simply shed than I think you're accounting for.

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