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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne sentence CA water proposal: NO FRACKING until the drought is over and reserves are @125% n/t
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)but if I did, my vote would be a big fat YES.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Period.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)Amishman
(5,559 posts)I just don't see the water shortage just going away, California is facing a new normal. And that new normal won't let water levels to 125% of their old averages.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Is California is a reclaimed desert. It's simply going back to its original state.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)BobSmith4152
(75 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)For some reason, he won't touch fracking. But I think if we put pressure on him, there is a chance.
Also, get laws passed that bans fracking by county. Here is a list, but some are just resolutions asking the governor to ban it. Some counties have won challenges against the law.
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/water/fracking/anti-fracking-map/local-action-documents/#california
We have a crisis and now is the time to get people involved. We hear the dire reports daily so I can't imagine anyone but those who directly profit (the rub) will object.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Pres Obama said it's the bridge to a new energy future. He forgot to include, "without drinking water".
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)until drought is over and reserves are @500%!
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)I would like to see CA agriculture move in the direction of ecologically-compatible sustainability. 80% of CA's water is used by an industry that only produces 2% of your state's GDP.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)ruffburr
(1,190 posts)No Fracking no water bottling till drought is over and then no fracking statewide ever , Should be worldwide.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)calimary
(81,429 posts)We actually don't have a choice anymore. This isn't a "want to" or "ought to" thing. This is "have to."
I thought it might be neat to go where the snow is. Look how obscenely much they had of it on the East Coast. What if we could build some sort of pipeline from east to west? Relieve buried Boston and pump that snow out west to California! Worst-case scenario: the pipeline bursts. What comes out? WATER. I also wonder why we out here aren't investing most if not all the state surplus into desalination projects or mechanisms or protocols. For Pete's sake, we've got the world's biggest water source at the wet end of the beach. Over the entire length of California! Surely there might be intakes in various places where water-creatures and the local ecology aren't horribly compromised?
rdking647
(5,113 posts)fracking is a necessary evil....
chapdrum
(930 posts)it depends on what you/we value more; lower-priced gas, or clean water.
elias7
(4,026 posts)Democrats will not generally see something so detrimental longterm as a necessary evil.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)they too, will lose their jobs and will have no influence over the price of gas.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Prolonging a few thousand doomed jobs today for a few years at the expense of hundreds of thousands or millions in the future is not wise. What will happen to California's economy when the wells suck nothing but waste products?
elias7
(4,026 posts)You need to look further down the road....
NickB79
(19,257 posts)Which extracting and burning fossil fuels causes.
We've driven the planet into a mass extinction event. Priorities.
TBF
(32,084 posts)on top of a fault line ...
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...our glorious governor claims that there are NO dangers associated with fracking. Of course, the legend in his own mind Paul LePage IS a whopping moron!
PEACE!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)between water for drinking and irrigation versus water for fracking, its a no brainer.
Except for the big oil guys and their high powered lobbyists that is.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)from teh california dept of conservation:
There are other differences between the typical use of hydraulic fracturing in California and elsewhere. For instance, in other states the extraction of unconventional natural gas resources requires lengthy fracturing periods along lengthy stretches of horizontally-drilled production wells. Millions of gallons of water are injected under constant pressure, a process that may take days or weeks in order to effectively open the reservoir rock. In California, much less water is used and the period of pressurizing the reservoir rock is much shorter. In other states, the extent of fracturing in unconventional rock stretches for hundreds of yards along the horizontal well and the fractures stretch farther away from the well. In California, fracturing projects tend to use far less fluid to fracture within a narrow vertical band along a well, generally starting at a point several thousand feet underground, with the fractures extending only tens to hundreds of feet away from the well.
http://www.conservation.ca.gov/dog/general_information/Pages/HydraulicFracturing.aspx
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Fracking fluid is contaminating our aquifers.
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Wilms
(26,795 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Wishing all of you the very best. If I could send our rain there, I'd send it. (No rain yet, still snowing, not unusual.)