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I understand why the GOP doesn't trust Iran, but why do they trust Israel? (Original Post) Viva_Daddy Apr 2015 OP
Not to mention their lack of demands for inspection of Israel's nuclear facilities. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #1
Well, first, because the Iranians and Palestinians are Muslim; Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #2
I think the GOP and Israel both have a lust for war. djean111 Apr 2015 #3
I think it has to do with a rapture, or end times or some shit like that. Autumn Apr 2015 #4
Did you know the rapture wasn't part of Christian theology till John Darby invented it in 1830? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #8
Yep I did know that. Quite the scam isn't it? Autumn Apr 2015 #10
That simply means that it's just as fictional as all the rest of it. Orrex Apr 2015 #11
well, that's only partly true cali Apr 2015 #13
Exactly and he was probably drunker than hell. jwirr Apr 2015 #16
Biblical, mostly. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #5
most goopers want Israel to keep building settlements cali Apr 2015 #6
Because many are Dominionists Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #7
And I think they claim that 3rd temple is built spiritually by converting Jews to Christianity. So jwirr Apr 2015 #17
Because Israel the key to Armageddon and the Rapture LynneSin Apr 2015 #9
Ordinary sane churches believe that Luke 21: 20-21 was fulfilled during the reign of the Roman jwirr Apr 2015 #18
Well I never said I believe it. Just said it was a fundie thing LynneSin Apr 2015 #21
Yes, Lynne I understood you did not beleive it. My post was meant to further educate on the point. jwirr Apr 2015 #22
What does trust have to do with it malaise Apr 2015 #12
I am not sure if the gambler is a fundie but he was setting in the galary when Bibi made his speech. jwirr Apr 2015 #19
They only trust in money. Dominionists are useful to those with money. Orsino Apr 2015 #14
Because you can Runningdawg Apr 2015 #15
You forgot one other thing johnnysad Apr 2015 #20
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
1. Not to mention their lack of demands for inspection of Israel's nuclear facilities.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:08 PM
Apr 2015

Or, demands for sanctions or bombing if Israel won't comply with inspections.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. Well, first, because the Iranians and Palestinians are Muslim;
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:09 PM
Apr 2015

$econd, becau$e Adel$on & hi$ ilk

and third, because the apotheosis of Israel has something to do with the Second Coming or something like that, which the fundies are actively working for.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. I think the GOP and Israel both have a lust for war.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:12 PM
Apr 2015

And the GOP and Israel never miss a chance to disagree with or try to circumvent Obama. Brothers in arms. Well, someone else' arms, not their own arms, of course.
The GOP could care less about illegal settlements. Unless to defend them. IMO and all that.
And, of course, the MIC is probably champing at the bit, thinking about the Ukraine and Iran.

Orrex

(63,232 posts)
11. That simply means that it's just as fictional as all the rest of it.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:27 PM
Apr 2015

Highlighting the abject foolishness of basing foreign policy on the scribblings of bronze age storytellers.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. well, that's only partly true
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:31 PM
Apr 2015

Millenialism has been a part of eschatology for far longer. Dispensationalism is Darby's twist on it.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,291 posts)
7. Because many are Dominionists
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:18 PM
Apr 2015

And believe that Israel needs to build the third temple in order to bring on the end times. This perversion of Christianity is little more than a death cult.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. And I think they claim that 3rd temple is built spiritually by converting Jews to Christianity. So
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:20 PM
Apr 2015

they need Israel converted before the rapture. I wonder what Bibi thinks of this? Because these are very likely his supporters.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
9. Because Israel the key to Armageddon and the Rapture
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:25 PM
Apr 2015

If you read all the interesting stuff in Revelations, when the end times are upon us it will all end in Israel just like how it all started in Israel. So for these fundie Christians, whose ultimate goal is Armageddon which includes the Rapture, if they can somehow maybe speed things along with those end-times such as well, nuclear blow-out between Israel and a few neighboring countries, then perhaps the Rapture will come sooner than later.

We've had wars in the Middle East and bombings in Israel but so far we haven't really wiped Israel out of existence. So I think for these fundies the key is total annihilation for things to kick off the end times.

Sick shit isn't it!


Here's the exact quote:

Luke 21:20-21: But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the town depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it"


So this part is coming from Jesus. But the hardcore stuff is in Revelations and not really sure how that factors into what Jesus said since obviously Jesus didn't have anything to do with what was written in Revelations.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. Ordinary sane churches believe that Luke 21: 20-21 was fulfilled during the reign of the Roman
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:25 PM
Apr 2015

Empire. Only fundies see it as a reference to the future. These people are picking and choosing their verses as usual.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
22. Yes, Lynne I understood you did not beleive it. My post was meant to further educate on the point.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:35 PM
Apr 2015

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. I am not sure if the gambler is a fundie but he was setting in the galary when Bibi made his speech.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:27 PM
Apr 2015

Runningdawg

(4,526 posts)
15. Because you can
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:13 PM
Apr 2015

lie, cheat, steal and kill much as you want. Jesus forgives those sins. But apparently he doesn't forgive even one negative comment about Israel.

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