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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:25 AM Apr 2015

Rahm's "win" in Chicago preserves the career of the most toxic figure in Obama's political life.

Obama's endorsement saved the man who devoted his entire period in the administration to making sure as little progressive change as possible was even attempted, and who fought harder than anyone else in that administration for the idea that the needs of the suites matter more than the needs of the streets.

Sickening. Tragic. Disgusting.

Now the right-wing bastard will probably run for the Senate in a couple of years, and Obama will go hardball to make sure he's nominated.

Chicago and the Democratic Party the country could have been free of Rahm and all the pure arrogant ugliness he stands for. But Obama wouldn't let it happen.

And the Obama supporters in Chicago who voted for Rahm solely because of the Obama endorsement let themselves be duped into voting for someone who has never been on their side and never will be.

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Rahm's "win" in Chicago preserves the career of the most toxic figure in Obama's political life. (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2015 OP
I don't particularly like Rahm and some of the things he has done in Chicago... phleshdef Apr 2015 #1
You're not "very liberal" when you close 50 schools and fight to break unions. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #2
But Rahm has a .jpg which pinpoints him smack in the center "left liberal"! delrem Apr 2015 #8
So his position on all the other issues don't matter then? phleshdef Apr 2015 #13
Those graphs are next to meeningless Dragonfli Apr 2015 #14
Score cards, goalposts, & neocon tactics so far right they don't fit on the flipping crazy mofo scal think Apr 2015 #4
I see this website ontheissues.org being referenced quite often around here. stillwaiting Apr 2015 #15
See my post # 14, their methodology also places Hillary Clinton as an extreme far left fringer Dragonfli Apr 2015 #19
Bollocks! tenderfoot Apr 2015 #18
BS , more ignorance of local politics JI7 Apr 2015 #3
There is no other explanation for Rahm carrying the black vote in Chicago. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #6
he won the white vote also and he was leading among hispanics earlier on before the runoff JI7 Apr 2015 #9
I know that Rahm carried the white vote. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #10
are black voters stupid or something ? rahm was leading among black voters even before Obama JI7 Apr 2015 #11
Rahm's top donor was a GOP billionaire who tossed in $1 cool mil to defeat another Dem think Apr 2015 #7
and of course DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #5
Well, damn. Baitball Blogger Apr 2015 #12
Chuy Garcia was no Bernie Sanders... brooklynite Apr 2015 #16
While we may not be happy about it, it was a win and not a "win." ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #17
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
1. I don't particularly like Rahm and some of the things he has done in Chicago...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:28 AM
Apr 2015

But his record overall is still a very liberal record.



http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Rahm_Emanuel.htm

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. You're not "very liberal" when you close 50 schools and fight to break unions.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:30 AM
Apr 2015

Nothing he could do could possibly be progressive after he did that...and after he did massive tax giveaways to corporate Chicago...and after he used force to close the Occupy camps down.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
8. But Rahm has a .jpg which pinpoints him smack in the center "left liberal"!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:52 AM
Apr 2015

Not one deviation point other-where than smack in the center "left liberal"!

As scientific as Scientology, or the latest Pew Poll, and you can't get more scientific than that.

How can anyone refute such overwhelming empirical evidence as the existence of that .jpg, reposted for DU's visual edification right here in this thread?
And *please*, don't maunder on citing fine points of meaning, as if meaning counts for anything but transient vibrations in the air, often mixed with farts.

I'll bet that another yet to be named politician will be found at that exact same pinpoint center spot, to explain certain positive results in the upcoming Dem primary process. Again, proof positive accompanied by fait accompli, a one-two knockout combo.

The problem with you, Ken, is that you don't seem to be a thinker. You don't seem to want to be assimilated. Pfff on some "charter schools" or "unions" issues - they no more exist than the Brontosaurus or Schroedinger's cat.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
13. So his position on all the other issues don't matter then?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:20 AM
Apr 2015

I AGREE with you that Rahm's actions in regard to everything you mentioned were dead wrong. But that doesn't make him a right winger.

Rahm's voting record strongly favors pro-choice, pro-LGBT rights, anti-discrimination, pro-gun control, pro-social safety nets, pro-minimum wage increase, anti-social security privatization, pro-environmental protection, anti-defense contractors, pro-voting rights and the list can go on quite a bit.

He is wrong on trade agreements, he has screwed with the unions in a way I don't like and he has been a dick to teachers and he is a foul mouthed dick, as far as his personality goes, in general. But his record is not a right wing record, when considered as a whole. I think we should be more honest with our characterizations.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
4. Score cards, goalposts, & neocon tactics so far right they don't fit on the flipping crazy mofo scal
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:36 AM
Apr 2015

that a Dem is a Dem yet is only a face of a shadow of what it use to be.....

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
15. I see this website ontheissues.org being referenced quite often around here.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:33 AM
Apr 2015

I have no idea who the people are that compile this information or how trustworthy these categorizations are, but if Rahm is categorized as solidly left liberal there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with their methodology.

Is this the website that compiles ratings based on what politicians SAY (i.e. what they say they value in their speeches)?

If that is given a lot of weight then this rating is meaningless.

Rahm is on a neo-liberal mission. He's following the playbook perfectly so he is pushing right-wing economic ideology. Maybe his support for some socially liberal policies tilts his rating to left liberal. That's just not enough these days. Not even close.

We have to DEMAND politicians represent us as social and economic liberals. Both. Or we will be even more screwed in another decade. And even more a decade after that. And....

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
19. See my post # 14, their methodology also places Hillary Clinton as an extreme far left fringer
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:40 PM
Apr 2015

She is many things, some good, some not so good, but a far left extremist? I don't think so.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. There is no other explanation for Rahm carrying the black vote in Chicago.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:43 AM
Apr 2015

He did nothing at all for black people in that city(or for anyone who wasn't a CEO).

You don't help the streets by privileging the suites. Democrats aren't supposed to do "trickle-down", dammit.

There could have been a people's victory Tuesday night...instead, only the 1% are really celebrating it.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
9. he won the white vote also and he was leading among hispanics earlier on before the runoff
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:11 AM
Apr 2015

hispanic areas also had low voter turnout which means even though chuy won the hispanic vote it wasn't necessarily an anti rahm vote.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. I know that Rahm carried the white vote.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:14 AM
Apr 2015

But that's not what carried the day for the candidate of the corporate right.

If the Harold Washington coalition had stayed together, Rahm would have lost.

There simply wasn't any good reason for non-billionaires to support Rahm's re-election.

And Obama should have done the decent thing and stayed out of it.

There was no good reason for him to keep Rahm's political career going.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
11. are black voters stupid or something ? rahm was leading among black voters even before Obama
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:16 AM
Apr 2015

endorsed him.

Rahm was leading among all groups not long before the runoff.

you are acting like rahm was very unpopular when he wasn't.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
5. and of course
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:36 AM
Apr 2015

He gets to be an albatross aorund Hillary's neck too. Granted, Hillary could score some cheap but effective points by slamming him, but the Rahm brother zeke will make sure Hoillywood abandon her.

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
16. Chuy Garcia was no Bernie Sanders...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:49 AM
Apr 2015

More liberal perhaps, but he was just the representative of another of Chicago's political factions who happened to make it into 2nd place when the runoff occurred. Meanwhile, Rahm was always within 5 point of what he needed for a outright win. I think a lot of people (particularly here) projected a progressive uprising that never was going to develop.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
17. While we may not be happy about it, it was a win and not a "win."
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:57 AM
Apr 2015

The 5 people I know in real life who actually live in Chicago, vote and are affected by the laws in Chicago, voted for Rahm, along with their spouses.

Not everyone who lives/works in Chicago is a DUer.


I am simply stating what my experience (yes, anecdotal) has been, since I don't live and work among the residents of Chicago. I don't wish to argue anything.

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