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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:41 AM Apr 2015

Fox Host: 'I Didn't See A Black Man Killed By A White Cop' In S.C. Tape

Self-styled conservative bad boy Greg Gutfeld said on Wednesday that when he saw the video of a white cop shooting unarmed black South Carolina man Walter Scott, he "didn't see a black man killed by a white cop."

"Well, I think the 'no justice, no peace' — if you follow that, there should be peace, because right now what you're seeing is justice," Gutfeld said on the Fox News show "The Five."

Gutfeld said the "great thing" about the video appearing to show Scott's killing by Patrolman Michael Thomas Slager was that the incident was available for everyone to see. Then, he offered his own interpretation.

"I didn't see a black man killed by a white cop," Gutfeld said. "I saw a man shoot another man in the back." While Gutfeld spoke, the Fox News chyron on the screen read: "Video Shows White Police Officer Shooting Black Man In The Back."



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Fox Host: 'I Didn't See A Black Man Killed By A White Cop' In S.C. Tape (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP
Has he had an eye exam recently? gordianot Apr 2015 #1
even if you wanted to discount race- it wasn't just a "man". It was a police-man. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #2
that's a very good point samsingh Apr 2015 #3
+1 daleanime Apr 2015 #5
A paid agent of the Evil Government. arcane1 Apr 2015 #14
fox admits at how it can ignore facts - denying what they see with their own eyes samsingh Apr 2015 #4
And that's exactly how they keep their audience... Stellar Apr 2015 #10
This is a prime example of why... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #6
cant always trust police makes me ask. if one cannot always trust a police, doesnt that suggest we seabeyond Apr 2015 #16
It depends on your POV discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #18
looking back, we can all say.... oh wow, i could have trusted him and not been fearful and seabeyond Apr 2015 #19
I guess we should be glad he isn't defending the cop? gollygee Apr 2015 #7
My hope is that sometime soon Fox News will go the way of their Glenn Beck: GreatGazoo Apr 2015 #8
The "Fox Fan Creed: world wide wally Apr 2015 #9
I'm sure that he's not aware of this... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #11
"You're playing the race card!" DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #24
and sometimes not even. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #28
Exactly. The "I don't see color" meme is code for "People of color aren't worth seeing." jobycom Apr 2015 #32
You're quite right, he should know that he's demonstrating his own racism by saying that... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #37
Yep. He's MLK's Dream, all right. Orsino Apr 2015 #12
Look at those straws flying off his hands. Baitball Blogger Apr 2015 #13
then he needs to look closer. i am pretty damn positive i saw a black man being shot in the back by seabeyond Apr 2015 #15
Did FOX let anyone refute the guy? Octafish Apr 2015 #17
Definitely not "why are they making it racial?" is their spin underpants Apr 2015 #26
Astounding abilities, theirs. Octafish Apr 2015 #35
he's suffering from fox related degenerative brain failure or fdbf syndrome Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #20
IMO Gutfeld is a fuck stick ...uhm ...err ...Fux stick. L0oniX Apr 2015 #21
"I saw a man shoot another man in the back." That = HOMICIDE, since he's removed the "police"! WinkyDink Apr 2015 #22
Will the black cop be charged as well? Emelina Apr 2015 #23
That's the really important part of this story! BillZBubb Apr 2015 #34
Watched the video - I do believe he's using that as a figure of speech. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #25
Where is Colbert when we need him?......" I don't see color.." pkdu Apr 2015 #27
I suppose it is his effort to welcome African Americans into an equal society. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #29
Unreal. Cop MURDERS a black man, again..but this time caught on camera. Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #30
Well ya know what they say about Fakenews? Rex Apr 2015 #31
FOX news rots your brain Johonny Apr 2015 #33
Who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes? jmowreader Apr 2015 #36
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
14. A paid agent of the Evil Government.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:46 PM
Apr 2015

Ever notice how the ones who hate the government the most are the ones who LOVE the police and the military the most, even though those are the ultimate expressions of government power?

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
4. fox admits at how it can ignore facts - denying what they see with their own eyes
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:56 AM
Apr 2015

and trying to SPIN it to mean something that fits into their world view.

at least the viewers can see the video and some may reach the factual conclusion that a white police officer murdered/executed an unarmed black man by shooting him multiple times in the back.

let's let that sink in. how often is this happening across the country?

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
10. And that's exactly how they keep their audience...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

'Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes'.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,482 posts)
6. This is a prime example of why...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:02 PM
Apr 2015

...you can't:
- always trust the police
- ever let down your guard regarding the government
- believe most of what you see on Fox aside from the clock

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. cant always trust police makes me ask. if one cannot always trust a police, doesnt that suggest we
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:50 PM
Apr 2015

can really.... never trust a police. cause there are times for us to not trust a police. we just do not know when those times are. hence, we cannot trust the police?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,482 posts)
18. It depends on your POV
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:58 PM
Apr 2015

Looking backward, you can usually trust the police; looking forward to your very next encounter, IMNSHO you should not simply trust. There are numerous LEOs that deserve none. It's Russian roulette. Try not to ever pull the trigger.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. looking back, we can all say.... oh wow, i could have trusted him and not been fearful and
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:00 PM
Apr 2015

watchful. but that is only the looking back of it. hence, never trust the police.

yup

just hit me as i was passing thru this thread and saw your words.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. I guess we should be glad he isn't defending the cop?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:08 PM
Apr 2015

But of course he can't admit racism has a part in it or that it's part of a disturbing national long-term trend.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
8. My hope is that sometime soon Fox News will go the way of their Glenn Beck:
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:14 PM
Apr 2015

Out of the mainstream, just off the radar and not the most-referred to "news" organization in America. As with Beck and Jones, there should be no need to say Fox News celebrities are unhinged extremists.

With Jon Stewart retiring, Fox News may lose a lot of viewers (who watched Fox via TDS) but some on the Left remain obsessed with Fox so who knows.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
11. I'm sure that he's not aware of this...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

But his kind of colorblindness demonstrates his racist intent.

It's actually a hallmark of white privilege.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
24. "You're playing the race card!"
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:17 PM
Apr 2015

I believe that is the preferred Fox News response at the very mention of racist intent or white privilege.

jobycom

(49,038 posts)
32. Exactly. The "I don't see color" meme is code for "People of color aren't worth seeing."
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:59 PM
Apr 2015

You can't "see" a person if you don't see all of that person, including the unique set of circumstances that each person's race brings to their identity. To say that a black man murdered by a white cop is just the same as a white man murdered by a white cop is to deny the history that that black man lived, and the racially-dictated differential in power, and the history of lynchings (which is what these shootings are--just a way to keep black people in line) that the black man was aware of, and the awareness of his racially-based danger as he had to decide how to handle the situation. It also ignores the reality of the white cop, of his desire to teach a lesson, of his own biases and hatreds that came to the surface, and of his near-certainty of getting away with it as he drew the gun, took aim, fired coldly, then planted the weapon near the body.

I'm sure the white cop thought of Darren Wilson, George Zimmerman, and Daniel Pantaleo as he pulled the trigger, and I'm sure Walter Scott thought of Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and countless other names that my white self is privileged enough to be able to forget as he saw how the situation was going, as he made his decision to try to run away, as the bullets ripped into him.

You may not be completely right, MrScorpio. That Fox host probably was somewhat aware of the racism of his comment. Take it from a white guy--we actually do know when we're being racist, even if we pretend like mad that we don't. Kind of like the guy who gets caught cheating on his wife and says "I don't know how it happened, it just happened." He does know. He just doesn't want to admit he could be that horrible.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
37. You're quite right, he should know that he's demonstrating his own racism by saying that...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:42 PM
Apr 2015

What I should have said that he's unwilling to realize that he looks like one by saying it.

People like you and I can see that he does, even if he's not willing to admit it himself. We've seen wingers be this obtuse before, they have no idea how they sound to other people.

Thanks for the elaboration, it was perfect.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
12. Yep. He's MLK's Dream, all right.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:29 PM
Apr 2015

He judges people not by the color of their skin, but by the content of his morning Ailes memo.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. then he needs to look closer. i am pretty damn positive i saw a black man being shot in the back by
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:48 PM
Apr 2015

a white police officer.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Did FOX let anyone refute the guy?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:54 PM
Apr 2015

Wish we had some kind of doctrine where more than Rupert Murdoch's pro-hate got broadcast on the nation's airwaves.

"I will not defend any of these guys." -- first words out of the mouth of a self-described Liberal Democrat analyst on FOX, asked to comment on a report listing a series of Democratic politicians accused of relatively petty crimes.

underpants

(182,904 posts)
26. Definitely not "why are they making it racial?" is their spin
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:22 PM
Apr 2015

Heard a tease for the local RW afternoon guy - "why is the media only focusing on the racial part of the shooting in South Carolina? Today 3:06"

There is another thread about Allen West saying/tweeting basically the same thing.

They are using their media to play victim to "the media".

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. Astounding abilities, theirs.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:40 PM
Apr 2015

Great analysis, yours. The Mighty Whorelitzer spews sideshow even as the reality of the rollback to the Antebellum Natural Guard continues.

Asked a pundit the other day about Edwin Black and "The War Against the Weak" and he never heard of the guy or IBM, at least going by the lack of response to the question.

Emelina

(188 posts)
23. Will the black cop be charged as well?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:23 PM
Apr 2015

The one in the video that witnesses the white cop put the taser next to the victim but appears to just go along with it?

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
25. Watched the video - I do believe he's using that as a figure of speech.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:05 PM
Apr 2015

I don't think he literally means he didn't see a white cop shooting a black man.

He goes on to condemn the action saying that there's no way anyone could justify the behaviour. He even states how he used to think cameras interfered with police, but has since changed his position and he thinks they need to be on all cops.

Normally I'd be the first slamming these fox guys, but in this particular case, it sounds like he gets it.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
29. I suppose it is his effort to welcome African Americans into an equal society.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:32 PM
Apr 2015

One where the race, profession, systemic abuses of authority, and attempted cover ups are inconsequential window dressing to the greater issue of a random murder.

I wonder which troubles him more, the murder or the video.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
30. Unreal. Cop MURDERS a black man, again..but this time caught on camera.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:35 PM
Apr 2015

Fucking liars never quit with the denial.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
36. Who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

Greg Gutfeld logic: It's okay to shoot people in the back.

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