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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:31 AM Apr 2015

WTF?? Desperation for Americans in Yemen as U.S. refuses to mount rescue

A Michigan family with two toddlers and an infant was stranded in Yemen after being forced from its home by rebel gunmen. A California woman tried to flee through an arrangement with the embassy of Djibouti, but failed. A mother of four from New York also tried that route, at the State Department’s suggestion, only to hear the same reply: There would be no help.

These accounts are among dozens presented in a lawsuit filed Thursday by Arab and Muslim civil rights groups seeking to force the Obama administration into taking action to bring home U.S. citizens who are stuck in Yemen’s worsening conflict.

At least eight other countries – including Russia, China and India – have rescued their citizens, but the United States has refused to launch an evacuation effort. U.S. officials claim that Yemen, where a U.S.-backed, Saudi-led air campaign is pummeling targets, is too dangerous for U.S. personnel to risk their lives, though U.S. aircraft have refueled Saudi bombers for the last two days, Pentagon spokesman Army Col. Steve Warren said.

The U.S. Embassy is shuttered, with all the diplomats and security guards taken to safety weeks ago. From Washington, the State Department directs remaining citizens to hotlines that don’t work and to foreign embassies that can’t help, leading many stranded Americans to summarize the Obama administration’s response as: Good luck.

“All day the question I ask myself is: Why is the United States not helping us?” said Sallah Elhushayshi, 21, of Brooklyn, who said he went to Yemen last year to get married and visit family. As he spoke by telephone from the city of Taiz, gunfire crackled in the background.

“Did you hear that? It’s a war now,” he said. “People are fighting, guns everywhere. We feel afraid. We have nothing. We’re worried about food and water every day. We feel hopeless, really.”

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/04/09/262695/desperation-for-americans-in-yemen.html#storylink=cpy

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WTF?? Desperation for Americans in Yemen as U.S. refuses to mount rescue (Original Post) cali Apr 2015 OP
I bet the Yemeni citizens are frightened, too. delrem Apr 2015 #1
and what does that have to do with it? Btw, almost all of these folks are Yemeni-Americans cali Apr 2015 #2
"What has that to do with it?" really? delrem Apr 2015 #3
what has that got to do with the U.S. refusing to rescue trapped U.S. citizens? cali Apr 2015 #4
It's racism, obviously. Ghost Dog Apr 2015 #7
I think it is racism. If these were anglo Americans, I'd bet they'd be rescued. cali Apr 2015 #8
If they were Anglo-Americans, they would not be living in Yemen right now. msanthrope Apr 2015 #9
There maybe be Anglo Americans thrre newfie11 Apr 2015 #13
Issued in February (updated six days ago...) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
another stunning success of the war on terror. KG Apr 2015 #6
This reminds me of people who climb mountains when bad weather is called for... Adrahil Apr 2015 #10
Good luck overseas Americans and don't forget Tax Day is on April 15th Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #11
The USS Iwo Jima Amphibious Group is in the area, so WTF indeed Lurks Often Apr 2015 #12
And How Many Marines Sparhawk60 Apr 2015 #14
Moot point, neither of us is in the position of being forced to make that choice. Lurks Often Apr 2015 #15
Thanks Lurks Often - Nice to see the ideals of solidarity and service you expressed Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #16
I think you misunderstood me Lurks Often Apr 2015 #17
I agreed with you, and I thanked you for the post Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #18
I have no doubts that the US military can handle such a rescue mission n/t Lurks Often Apr 2015 #19
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. and what does that have to do with it? Btw, almost all of these folks are Yemeni-Americans
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:37 AM
Apr 2015
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
9. If they were Anglo-Americans, they would not be living in Yemen right now.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:34 AM
Apr 2015

Yemen's been AQAP'S playground for a decade now........and it's been extremely dangerous for any American to visit Yemen, except those that already have ethnic ties to a people there. NGOs haven't been able to operate there, save the Red Cresent, and they are limited.

Yemen isn't a tourist spot for Americans. It's been a dangerous place for a long time. While I hope something can be done for these citizens, one wonders why they didn't get out months ago, when the State Department warned them.

I've been evacuated. You go...as in...you get the fuck out when the Marines start suiting up.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. Issued in February (updated six days ago...)
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:02 AM
Apr 2015
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/yemen-travel-warning.html

U.S. Embassy Sana'a

Dhahr Himyar Zone,
Sheraton Hotel District
Sana'a, Yemen

All consular services, routine and/or emergency, have been suspended until further notice.

On February 11, 2015, due to the deteriorating security situation in Sanaa, the Department of State suspended embassy operations and U.S. Embassy Sanaa American staff were relocated out of the country.

All U.S. citizens who are able to depart Yemen for another country and are in need of emergency assistance may contact a U.S. Embassy or Consulate in that country. For U.S. citizen inquiries, you may send an email to YEMENEMERGENCYUSC@state.gov.


We urge U.S. citizens to defer travel to Yemen and for those U.S. citizens currently living in or visiting Yemen to depart. For more information, view our Yemen Crisis page.

The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the high security threat level in Yemen due to terrorist activities and civil unrest. On February 11, 2015 due to the deteriorating security situation in Sanaa, the Department of State suspended embassy operations and U.S. Embassy Sanaa American staff have been relocated out of the country. All consular services, routine and/or emergency, have been suspended until further notice. The Department urges U.S. citizens to defer travel to Yemen and those U.S. citizens currently living in Yemen to depart when you are able to safely do so. This supersedes the Travel Warning for Yemen issued on February 11, 2015.


__________________________

Even here in Paris, American citizens received a no-go Yemen advisory.

I feel very sorry for the fear and anguish that these people are obviously experiencing.

BUT, YOU DO NOT TRAVEL TO REGIONS IN CONFLICT, UNLESS YOU'RE A WAR JOURNALIST!
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. This reminds me of people who climb mountains when bad weather is called for...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:41 AM
Apr 2015

.... And then end to be rescued.

I mean, WTF? They've been warned to get out for months.

In the end, I still think we should help them, but this kind of crap drives me nuts. More people will have to risk their lives for idiots who made bad decisions.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
11. Good luck overseas Americans and don't forget Tax Day is on April 15th
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:27 AM
Apr 2015

because being an American citizen is a privilege that you must pay for, no matter where you live.

Those other countries that rescue their citizens from war zones, like Russia, and also don't require their overseas residents to file a tax return yearly in a country they no longer live or earn money in... pay no attention to that.

We’re not asking for anything out of the ordinary. We’re just asking them to fulfill their duties,” Ayoub said. “India took out over 4,000 of their nationals in three days. If India can do it, why can’t the U.S.?”


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/04/09/262695/desperation-for-americans-in-yemen.html#storylink=cpy
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
12. The USS Iwo Jima Amphibious Group is in the area, so WTF indeed
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:44 AM
Apr 2015

Link: http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=85150

And what an ARG can do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_ready_group

I also know that the Theodore Roosevelt carrier task group is in the area as well.

In other words, a Marine infantry battalion, with air support from attack helicopters and carrier aircraft and helicopter and tilt rotor aviation support sufficient to evacuate a substantial number of people is in the area and not being used.

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
14. And How Many Marines
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:31 AM
Apr 2015

And how many Marines are you willing to get killed to rescue people who ignored Government warnings to leave? The State Department does not issue warnings just for the heck of it. It is usually a very serious situation that should not be ignored.

Maybe, just maybe, if we announced we would stop bombing Yemen, stop funding the violence, our citizens would not be in danger. I know it is old fashioned, but maybe we should give peace a chance, before we send in the Marines.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
15. Moot point, neither of us is in the position of being forced to make that choice.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:11 AM
Apr 2015

My post was to point that yes, we do indeed have the necessary assets in the place to rescue Americans.

As to the rest, I've been a soldier and I accepted that part of the job was to protect American civilians, even the stupid ones who made poor choices.

I strongly suspect most of the Marines in that Amphibious Group feel the same way and are willing to place their own lives at risk to get those Americans out.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
16. Thanks Lurks Often - Nice to see the ideals of solidarity and service you expressed
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:25 PM
Apr 2015

Some of these Americans were on short term academic or business assignments and got stuck over there when the airports and roads closed. The Russians, Indians, Chinese and the other 8 countries just evacuated their citizens rather than blaming them for needing help. Private military contractors in the area have offered to mount the operation in the place of the US military.

Ayoub said advocacy groups have been approached by private defense contractors who’ve said they could perform a successful extraction of U.S. citizens if only the Obama administration would sign off on plans and foot the bill. But Ayoub said that window of opportunity is now closing, because “we don’t have any sign that this will be over soon.”


The lawsuit cited local reports that Houthi rebels and their military allies had ordered Yemenis to report all U.S. citizens in their midst.


When we see the YouTube videos of captured Americans in Yemen being dressed in orange jumpsuits, forced down on their knees facing Rome and beheaded (or crucified) by the IS and Al Quiada factions fighting in the area, I dread the reactions and victim blaming I will see here on DU.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/04/09/262695/desperation-for-americans-in-yemen.html#storylink=cpy

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
17. I think you misunderstood me
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:43 PM
Apr 2015

To be very clear, if I was in charge, we would be rescuing those Americans and I would use any and all force needed to do so.

However that isn't always the politically correct answer here and advocating such a position often elicits responses that include words like warmonger, you first, you sound like a Republican, war hawk and other variations on the above and I really didn't feel like dealing with the annoying and often childish responses such a response would have gotten today.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
18. I agreed with you, and I thanked you for the post
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:54 PM
Apr 2015

I think I understood you, I hope so or I can't say I understand English anymore -lol.

If I had a say in the matter, we would be rescuing those Americans. If Russia, India, and China can do it, I would like to believe the USA can do it too, considering that American taxpayers support a large military with a large military budget.

I thought long and hard about my post. I usually lurk too, but some things are just too hard to take. Watch how DU reacts to my last paragraph in my previous reply and you'll see you are much smarter than I am.

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