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(47,535 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:59 PM Apr 2015

After Minority Rule, Iraq’s Sunnis Refuse Minority Role

Another example of how Cheney-Rumsfeld created a powder keg with no end or resolution insight. This, of course, in addition of the tens of thousands killed, maimed, displaces.. Not to mention the millions of dollars that were just blown in the wind.

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By Yaroslav Trofimov

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A minority that dominated or ruled Iraq for centuries until the U.S. invasion brought Shiites to power 12 years ago, Iraq’s Sunni Arabs aren’t just refusing to accept their loss of status. They also, by and large, reject the basic demographic reality on which any feasible power-sharing deal could be built.

Such a deal is indispensable to eradicate Islamic State, also known as ISIS. The group seized most of Iraq’s Sunni belt last summer, riding a wave of discontent with the Shiite-dominated central government in Baghdad. Despite recent advances by Shiite militias and government forces on Tikrit, most of that Sunni belt—including Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul—remains under Islamic State’s sway.

“ISIS is a problem, but it is a symptom of a bigger problem between Sunnis and Shiites,” said Robert Ford, a senior fellow at the Middle East Institute in Washington who served as a U.S. diplomat in Iraq between 2003 and 2010, and then as American ambassador to Syria. “If there is no reconciliation, you will never control Islamic State. Wherever the Sunnis are, the Islamic State will be there.”

Nobody knows for sure how Iraq’s population is divided between its three main components: the Arab Shiites, the Arab Sunnis, and the predominantly Sunni Kurds, who control an autonomous region in the north. The political implications of this question have repeatedly scuttled plans to hold a census after Saddam’s downfall.

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The dominance of Iraq’s Sunni elites goes back to the Ottoman Empire, in which what is now Iraq was a borderland abutting the rival Shiite empire in Iran. The privileged role of Sunni Arabs was strengthened by the British colonial powers and, with the Sunni preponderance in the officer class, continued through the history of independent Iraq. By empowering the Shiite majority for the first time, the 2003 U.S. invasion upended what many Sunnis have come to see as Iraq’s natural order—and sparked violent resistance to the new Baghdad authorities that continues until now.

“When the Americans came, they put the Shiites in power and the Sunnis in prison,” said Mehdi al-Sumeidaie, the imam of Baghdad’s Sunni Umm al-Tuboul mosque who was jailed together with Islamic State’s current leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, in the U.S.-run Camp Bucca detention facility in south Iraq.

The pursuit of a Shiite sectarian agenda by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki following the U.S. withdrawal in 2011 was a key reason why Islamic State, also known under its Arabic acronym Daesh, managed to sweep through Sunni areas of the country last summer, encountering little resistance.

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/iraqs-sunnis-dont-accept-minority-role-1428571127

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After Minority Rule, Iraq’s Sunnis Refuse Minority Role (Original Post) question everything Apr 2015 OP
Iraq's Sunnis need to decide whether they want to be part of Iraq. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #1
But then they need to decide the boundaries of the Islamic State question everything Apr 2015 #2
We could see a new Sunni state emerge basically where Islamic State is. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #3
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. Iraq's Sunnis need to decide whether they want to be part of Iraq.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:10 PM
Apr 2015

And if they don't, whether they want to part of the Islamic State.

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2. But then they need to decide the boundaries of the Islamic State
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:27 PM
Apr 2015

Iraq should have been created by forcing three groups that hate each other to live within arbitrary boundaries. Iraq and Syria and Lebanon and Kuwait should have been established within borders that let each group have its own state. This is another horrible example of how the West - in this case France and Britain - had no understanding, or even a desire to understand, the dynamic in the region.

Control of the oil field was another factor, I suppose.

Some scholars claim that it was this arbitrary border drawings that created the hatred and distrust against the West.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. We could see a new Sunni state emerge basically where Islamic State is.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

In fact, I guess you could say it has already emerged.

We could end up with:

1. A shrunken, Shia dominated Iraq.
2. A shrunken, more secular Syria.
3. A new Sunni-dominated state in western Iraq and eastern Syria.
4. Kurdistan extending from Syria to Irbil.

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