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White Privilege: No Explaining Needed; You'll Understand In Just 35 Seconds (Video) (Original Post) napkinz Apr 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #1
Surviving a Police Encounter Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #2
might help if you posted a few excerpts napkinz Apr 2015 #3
it was just this Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #5
thank you for sharing nt napkinz Apr 2015 #7
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #4
A sad KnR. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #6
a sad truth that so many refuse to recognize napkinz Apr 2015 #8
... napkinz Apr 2015 #9
That killer cop Slager cwydro Apr 2015 #10
well, he has Geraldo in his corner: "Geraldo: Dashcam Video Should Clear S.C. Cop Of Murder Charge" napkinz Apr 2015 #11
Geraldo is such a pompous gasbag... TeeYiYi Apr 2015 #14
Geraldo's "malignant narcissism" napkinz Apr 2015 #16
That has been almost got our troops killed in Iraq. Fuck him. Rex Apr 2015 #31
from The Onion napkinz Apr 2015 #32
National flood of guns legal and illegal is why ErikJ Apr 2015 #12
the NRA back in 1934 ... napkinz Apr 2015 #15
The NRA has been taken over by right-wing propagandists with one B Calm Apr 2015 #22
"getting republicans elected anyway they can" napkinz Apr 2015 #29
$38 mill over 8 years pales in comparison to dues aikoaiko Apr 2015 #35
This thread is absolutely... 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #13
the ordeal that African-American families have to live with conveyed in the video napkinz Apr 2015 #17
That's two different scenarios, isn't it? aikoaiko Apr 2015 #18
the video portrays the ACTUAL kind of conversation that most African-American parents have napkinz Apr 2015 #19
Do you have data on whether or not white parents talk to their teens about interacting with police? aikoaiko Apr 2015 #20
what I've written is based on several pieces I've read over the years napkinz Apr 2015 #23
My info is anecdotal too aikoaiko Apr 2015 #26
if this kind of discussion were had throughout the country, more would come to understand ... napkinz Apr 2015 #28
I'm sure we never had "the talk" in my family gollygee Apr 2015 #21
"Maybe this is a generational thing? We should do a poll. I might set one up" napkinz Apr 2015 #27
Kick, kick, kick! Heidi Apr 2015 #24
I'm white and I remember having the police conversation with my parents. Calista241 Apr 2015 #25
Do you think white parents who do give those instructions napkinz Apr 2015 #30
I don't know Calista241 Apr 2015 #34
+1 FLPanhandle Apr 2015 #33
for more information about this video ... napkinz Apr 2015 #36

Response to napkinz (Original post)

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
3. might help if you posted a few excerpts
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:09 PM
Apr 2015

for those of us who are wary about clicking on unfamiliar links

thanks

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. That killer cop Slager
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:33 PM
Apr 2015

is about to find out that white privilege will not apply.

He's in solitary right now, so I suppose some on DU think he is being "tortured".

I think he deserves where he is.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
14. Geraldo is such a pompous gasbag...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 09:33 PM
Apr 2015

His every move in life is predicated on how he will benefit.

I loved watching him lose to Leeza Gibbons on Celebrity Apprentice. His psychopathic nature kept him from realizing that he'd lost due to malignant narcissism.

Yeah, I can't stand him.

TYY

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
16. Geraldo's "malignant narcissism"
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 04:42 AM
Apr 2015

that trait also describes Donald Trump, so I'm surprised Trump didn't pick Geraldo.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
12. National flood of guns legal and illegal is why
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 09:24 PM
Apr 2015

Thanks to the NRA we have so many guns per capita, its like an arms race between the cops and people.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
22. The NRA has been taken over by right-wing propagandists with one
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:04 AM
Apr 2015

goal and it's not for protecting the right to own a gun, but getting republicans elected anyway they can.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
29. "getting republicans elected anyway they can"
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 01:40 PM
Apr 2015

and selling more guns

Behind the NRA’s Money: Gun Lobby Deepens Financial Ties to $12 Billion Firearms Industry

Throughout its history, the National Rifle Association has portrayed itself as an advocate for individual gun owners’ Second Amendment rights. But a new investigation finds the group has come to rely on the support of the $12-billion-a-year gun industry — made up of firearms and ammunition manufacturers and sellers. Since 2005, the NRA has collected as much as $38.9 million from dozens of gun industry giants, including Beretta USA; Glock; and Sturm, Ruger & Co., according to a 2011 study by the Violence Policy Center. We speak with investigative reporter Peter Stone, whose latest article for The Huffington Post is "NRA Gun Control Crusade Reflects Firearms Industry Financial Ties."

read more: http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/16/behind_the_nras_money_gun_lobby

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
35. $38 mill over 8 years pales in comparison to dues
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:51 PM
Apr 2015

Each year 4-5 million members pay $25 a year or paid hundreds earlier to have lifetime memberships.

$4 -5 million from industry versus $75 - 100 million in dues, but yet the propaganda is that they are merely tools of the gun industry.


napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. the ordeal that African-American families have to live with conveyed in the video
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:11 AM
Apr 2015

is one that so many Americans are simply unaware of

let's hope it opens eyes and hearts

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
18. That's two different scenarios, isn't it?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:26 AM
Apr 2015

As a white teen in an affluent town who lived next door to the chief of police, I received the same message given to the black teens. If i were pulled over by police, then park to the side, roll down windows, turn off car, keep hands on steering wheel, follow every instruction, make no sudden moves, and don't get an attitude.

I also was told that if I needed help to go to the police. Black folks call the police too when they need help.

Having said that I recognize that black folks are treated much more poorly, even more criminally, by police than white folks.

I guess my point is that this video is not well thought out.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
19. the video portrays the ACTUAL kind of conversation that most African-American parents have
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:47 AM
Apr 2015
According to Khary Lazarre-White, The Brotherhood/Sister Sol cofounder, the PSA addresses a historical and modern reality.

Civil rights have made strides over recent decades, but many black families continue to feel anxiety over interactions with law enforcement. Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, and Michael Brown are hardly special cases, after all. A study by ProPublica found that blacks age 15 to 19 are 21 times more likely than their white counterparts to be shot dead by police.

“It is a video that can help parents have the talk,” Lazarre-White said in a statement. “It is a light shined on an issue all of Americans need to confront.”


more at: http://www.takepart.com/video/2014/12/13/video-difference-black-and-white-parents-talk-kids

I understand your parents had that conversation with you. But that's not the case with all or most parents of white children. It is however a conversation that most parents of African-Americans have because of the greater danger their children face.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
20. Do you have data on whether or not white parents talk to their teens about interacting with police?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:57 AM
Apr 2015

Because most of the kids I grew up with seemed to have this knowledge somehow.

When a groups of us were stopped in cars, passengers would instruct the drivers.

Again, I don't dispute that black parents have more of a reason to have this talk, I'm just saying that white folks have this talk too.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
23. what I've written is based on several pieces I've read over the years
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:22 AM
Apr 2015

and from information -- yes, much of it anecdotal -- shared on cable talk shows (most recently discussions following the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice.)

I think there is a consensus on "the talk" as it is called.

But I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong on this subject.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
28. if this kind of discussion were had throughout the country, more would come to understand ...
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 01:28 PM
Apr 2015
Black Moms Tell White Moms About the Race Talk

Ten black mothers sat on the stage in an auditorium and looked into a diverse crowd of women in the audience. They were about to share something personal and hurtful with this room full of mostly strangers. They were going to talk about something they didn't normally share with their white friends or colleagues. It was about to get real in that room.

-snip-

Christi Griffin, the president of The Ethics Project, wanted this to be different. She wanted to invite mothers of other races to hear directly from black mothers the reality of raising a black son in America. She wanted them to hear the words they each had said to their own sons, in different variations over the years, but all with the same message: Stay alive. Come home alive. She wanted mothers who had never felt the fear, every single time their son walked outside or drove a car, that he could possibly be killed to hear what that felt like.

-snip-

Marlowe Thomas-Tulloch said that when she noticed her grandson was getting bigger and taller, she laid bare a truth to him: Son, if the police stop you, I need for you to be humble. But I need more than that. I need for you to be prepared to be humiliated.

-snip-

The mothers talked about the times their sons had been stopped in their own neighborhoods because "they fit the description." They shared the times their sons had come home full of rage and hurt for being stopped and questioned for no reason. And they told the other mothers how often they told their sons to simply swallow the injustice of the moment. Because they wanted them alive, above all.

-snip-

Her 12-year-old cried when he told her what had happened and asked if he was stopped because he was black.

"Probably, yeah," she said.

"I just want to know, how long will this last?" he asked her.

That's when she started to cry.

"For the rest of your life," she said.

read more: http://www.uexpress.com/parents-talk-back/2014/9/29/black-moms-tell-white-moms-about/

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
21. I'm sure we never had "the talk" in my family
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:01 AM
Apr 2015

and I'm sure my brother didn't. We were always told that the police would help us in any circumstance. That we could always go to them, and to look for them if there were trouble.

Maybe this is a generational thing? We should do a poll. I might set one up.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
27. "Maybe this is a generational thing? We should do a poll. I might set one up"
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 01:12 PM
Apr 2015

I'd be interested in knowing if this is the case too.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
25. I'm white and I remember having the police conversation with my parents.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:32 AM
Apr 2015

It went something like this:

1. Pull over immediately.
2. Cops will catch you if you run. And even if you get away, you will certainly have been identified.
3. Turn off the car (and the radio).
4. Turn on the interior lights.
5. Be respectful.
6. Dont admit any guilt to anything, ever.
7. If the handcuffs come out, or if they take you to the station, ask for a lawyer immediately.
8. Cops have the power to fuck up your life forever, so don't provoke them.
9. You want to be the person they forget about as soon as they drive away.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
30. Do you think white parents who do give those instructions
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:04 PM
Apr 2015

ever contemplate that their child might be pulled over solely on the basis of their child's race? And not only contemplate that happening, but fear that their child might be harassed, humiliated, even killed when he or she did nothing wrong.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
34. I don't know
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 04:15 PM
Apr 2015

But I'm absolutely positive I was pulled over several times because I was a young kid, and nothing else.

They searched my car a bunch of times for drugs even though I always had a clean record.

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