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malaise

(269,212 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 08:22 PM Apr 2015

They thought they'd get away with the Scott murder - listen here

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/12/walter-scott-shooting-officer-michael-slager-audio-recording
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The police officer who killed Walter Scott in South Carolina said afterwards that he was experiencing a rush of adrenaline, during a conversation that offers a new insight into his mindset in the minutes following the shooting.

Patrolman Michael Slager appeared to laugh nervously in the discussion with a senior officer after fatally shooting Scott in North Charleston on 5 April. A recording of their conversation was obtained by the Guardian.

“By the time you get home, it would probably be a good idea to kind of jot down your thoughts on what happened,” the senior officer said. “You know, once the adrenaline quits pumping.”
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“It’s pumping,” Slager said, laughing. The senior officer replied: “Oh yeah. Oh yeah.”

The senior officer told Slager during the conversation to go home and relax, assuring him that he would not have to answer questions about the shooting for days.
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What did the African American male do to be so hated- to have his life treated like nothing.
I cry for our lack of humanity.
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They thought they'd get away with the Scott murder - listen here (Original Post) malaise Apr 2015 OP
That does not sound like the way they treat a civilian shooter. Downwinder Apr 2015 #1
Every LEO in this nation is a civilian. Ikonoklast Apr 2015 #35
They believe it because its true quakerboy Apr 2015 #45
Thanks for posting this...says a lot about the shooter/murderer...nt Stuart G Apr 2015 #2
Just as I suspected. Slager is an insensitive fuck. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #3
Stay tuned I am sure there will be more re this case. N/T gordianot Apr 2015 #4
",,,What did the African American male do to be so hated..." SoCalDem Apr 2015 #5
Sounds like he caught a big trophy fish or something. NBachers Apr 2015 #6
"Go home and relax, (you won't) have to answer questions about the shooting for days." leveymg Apr 2015 #7
plus 100 Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #17
I'm with you malaise marym625 Apr 2015 #8
They had no idea there would be an explicit video of what REALLY happened. George II Apr 2015 #9
True they clearly didnt know but if the other officer had I suspect the conversation would have cstanleytech Apr 2015 #10
Or "Why in the Hell didn't you also shoot the guy with the phone?" 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #33
, blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Maraya1969 Apr 2015 #12
WTF liberalhistorian Apr 2015 #13
White males appear to be threatened by everybody on the planet crim son Apr 2015 #15
Murderous bastards. These are not a few "bad apples". The entire force is a toxic whereisjustice Apr 2015 #14
Been watching old westerns on tv RobertEarl Apr 2015 #16
That's profound because it is part of the culture of guns as well as the malaise Apr 2015 #28
FUCK.... ING.... WOW!!! Cold Callus Murder ON VIDEO!!! ... wow uponit7771 Apr 2015 #18
the police sound like it was target practice. that is what they have come to in this country samsingh Apr 2015 #19
another police murder it seems. samsingh Apr 2015 #20
They are just kicking themselves DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #21
Kind of hard to do 2naSalit Apr 2015 #22
Kinda hard to claim you could mistake a pistol for a taser DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #23
Not suprised. 2naSalit Apr 2015 #24
Where is this land of purity and goodness? DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #25
Mayberry RFD. 2naSalit Apr 2015 #26
And it worked for Politicalboi Apr 2015 #27
I saw that malaise Apr 2015 #29
I just heard the audio on TV KMOD Apr 2015 #30
Of course he laughs malaise Apr 2015 #31
This wil not be a popular opinion, but I understand ... 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #34
I defer to your military experience malaise Apr 2015 #39
I understand what you are relating to, 11 Bravo, KMOD Apr 2015 #47
Just-Us means they can get away with murder. It's tradition developed over the last 52 years. Octafish Apr 2015 #32
Don't hijack this tragedy with your conspiracy bullshit, Octafish. nt Codeine Apr 2015 #41
Gee, I didn't know I had to clear what I post with you, Codeine. What part is bullshit? Octafish Apr 2015 #44
It's bullshit that you're bringing it up in a wildly Codeine Apr 2015 #46
So, none of what I wrote is bullshit. You just don't like me bringing it up. That's different. Octafish Apr 2015 #48
A little post-script to the Scott matter. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #36
Great point malaise Apr 2015 #40
From what I understand ..... left-of-center2012 Apr 2015 #37
anyone will tell, write down everything you know immediately asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #38
He was born fadedrose Apr 2015 #42
Translated: "Go home, take your time concocting good story, talk to union rep for legal advise." lexington filly Apr 2015 #43

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
35. Every LEO in this nation is a civilian.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 04:00 PM
Apr 2015

Don't fall for their bullshit, being a "civilian" actually means something.

LEO are *not* members of the military, military personnel are not civilians.

They gave up certain rights when joining the military, making them *not* civilians until discharged.

Cops actually believe they are above all other citizens and have special rights not afforded all other civilians.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
45. They believe it because its true
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 10:15 PM
Apr 2015

They get special rights not afforded to other citizens. Makes it pretty easy for them to believe it.

Sucks for the rest of us though. Sucks for them too, in a way. It has corrupted them.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
5. ",,,What did the African American male do to be so hated..."
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:05 PM
Apr 2015

Historically, the fact the blacks were "still here" after the civil war ended..and that they started families who are still here, is "evidence" enough to produce anger in racists..

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. "Go home and relax, (you won't) have to answer questions about the shooting for days."
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:16 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:48 PM - Edit history (1)

"All in a day's work. Treat it as a well-earned vacation.

"Could've been any of us, right Mike?" Sound of back slapping.

Hannah Arendt got it so right about the banality of evil.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
8. I'm with you malaise
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

I am so, unbelievably disgusted, saddened, horrified by what is happening that I can't even wrap my head around it. And nothing is being done to stop it. Nothing. No one cares.

I can't help but think this is very deliberate. That the killings, the incarcerations, the fines for petty bullshit, are part of some plan. Whether preconceived or just an offshoot of other plans, it is meant to systematically remove the black man from existence, to make sure that the poor are kept well under thumb and that the corpocracy are well protected.

Sickened by the whole thing

cstanleytech

(26,334 posts)
10. True they clearly didnt know but if the other officer had I suspect the conversation would have
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:59 PM
Apr 2015

been more like "You better get an attorney" because that video is pretty damning.

Response to malaise (Original post)

crim son

(27,464 posts)
15. White males appear to be threatened by everybody on the planet
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:09 PM
Apr 2015

including other white males. Relevance?

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
14. Murderous bastards. These are not a few "bad apples". The entire force is a toxic
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
Apr 2015

sludge of bad humanity. We need to stop apologizing for them and put them in jail where they belong.

Goddamn yahoos with skinheads, beer bellies and wrap around glasses fucking people up just because they can.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
16. Been watching old westerns on tv
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:19 PM
Apr 2015

I watched some as a kid.... did not remember how much shooting and killing was in those shows. We grew up with that crap!!

Is it any wonder our society's police officers are so trigger happy?



samsingh

(17,601 posts)
19. the police sound like it was target practice. that is what they have come to in this country
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:51 PM
Apr 2015

big fixes are needed

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
21. They are just kicking themselves
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:02 PM
Apr 2015

That they didn't immediately go with the "oops I meant to taser that guy. My bad." defense.

2naSalit

(86,834 posts)
22. Kind of hard to do
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:29 PM
Apr 2015

since he WAS tazered and that was recorded by the coroner. But I wouldn't put it past them.

2naSalit

(86,834 posts)
24. Not suprised.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:43 PM
Apr 2015

Glad I live way the heck away from most of that. I'll take my spartan life with few frills or travel to be far from that part of society. I've had my bad experiences with cops and regular folk who have a problem with my skin color. In this remote place, I know most everyone and vice versa and we have to get along to survive.

I think I'll just stay put.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
25. Where is this land of purity and goodness?
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:47 PM
Apr 2015

It has certainly not been my experience that rural police departments have a culture that's any different from big city departments.

2naSalit

(86,834 posts)
26. Mayberry RFD.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:53 PM
Apr 2015

Actually, in a small town of <1500 in Montana. I know all the cops and they know me, some I knew before they became cops. Even the two dirty cops we just ousted were not violent. We don't have much crime here until the tourists arrive... then it's different but I don't have any problem with the community, and tourists have to go way out of their way to find me.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. And it worked for
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:05 PM
Apr 2015

BART police in 2009 with the shooting of Oscar Grant. Another "I thought it was my taser" shit.

malaise

(269,212 posts)
31. Of course he laughs
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

Killing an African-American male is a joke.to these racists.

Sadly for them one of these days a young 'Serpico' will spill the beans on official policy and the methods for the official coverup.

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
34. This wil not be a popular opinion, but I understand ...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:30 PM
Apr 2015

the laughter. I myself have laughed out loud not long after the conclusion of a firefight in which guys I knew and liked had been killed. A full blown adrenaline rush, and the deficit which follows it can't be explained, it has to be experienced; and not everyone reacts the same way.
Slager is a murdering, evidence-planting, dirty cop, and I hope he is found guilty of second degree murder; but not because he laughed.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
47. I understand what you are relating to, 11 Bravo,
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:40 AM
Apr 2015

except that this wasn't combat, and it wasn't a firefight. It was a traffic stop. The officer could have just ticketed, or arrested him later at his house if need be.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
44. Gee, I didn't know I had to clear what I post with you, Codeine. What part is bullshit?
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:40 PM
Apr 2015

My point: The nation is in the grips of blowback from out of control police state.

The memo is from the National Archive, so that's a fact.

The memo is about George Herbert Walker Bush, the guy who would become President one day, so that's a fact.

The memo says Bush told the FBI he was in Dallas on the same day President Kennedy was shot dead, so that's a fact.

The memo says Bush warned the FBI he heard someone say they were going to kill JFK, but Bush waited until JFK was dead to report it, so that's a fact.

What part really bothers you, the facts or that I brought them up?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
48. So, none of what I wrote is bullshit. You just don't like me bringing it up. That's different.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:54 AM
Apr 2015

And here's a different memo of what I'm writing about -- the direct 51-year long line of government corruption stemming from that day in Dallas.

FBI de-briefed a "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" about the assassination and its impact on the anti- and pro-Castro communities in Miami.



Lots of important conclusions can be drawn from that document, including the extraordinary effort the CIA made to distance its former director and later president, the same guy who was in Dallas a few days earlier, GHW Bush, from the "Mr. George Bush" of the CIA it mentioned. For those so interested, details.

Here's one important way how the corruption at the top affects the cop on the local beat:

The Nasty Blowback From America’s Wars: The Brutalizers and the Brutalized (Ray McGovern)

Let me know if you find anything else inappropriate in what I write, Codeine. I'll let you know if I find anything of interest in your posts.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
36. A little post-script to the Scott matter.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:46 PM
Apr 2015

The warrant for Scott's arrest was, if this report is true, for failure to pay child support.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/walter-scott-shooting/walter-scott-shooting-warrant-over-child-support-court-records-show-n339151

Slager's shooting Scott means that Scott will never be able to pay the child support. Should Slager pay it?

My point is that shooting a suspect who is fleeing from arrest on a bench warrant for failure to pay child support defeats the purpose of the warrant.

What good is arresting a person for failure to pay child support anyway? What you insure is that the person sitting in jail for failure to pay child support will not earn any money during his time in jail and be even less able to pay the child support.

We need some other method for helping people who are owed child support.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
37. From what I understand .....
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:29 PM
Apr 2015

Didn't one or more cops show up and standby while the 'killer cop' planted the taser next to the dead body? They need to be locked up for keeping their mouths shut.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
38. anyone will tell, write down everything you know immediately
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

following any altercation..a robbery etc etc etc..he was a witness to his own crime....IMMEDIATELY - not some pie in the sky story...go home relax - not have to answer questions for days..who's shittin' who....this guy committed murder...hateful bigoted sob.....and anyone who supports him.....

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