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Looks like the announcement may be very soon. From an email I just received I realize he's looking for donations here but I still like the message. Though not really thrilled with the "In God we trust. " part but they're all going to go there.
Email from O'Malley:
During my travels to Iowa last week, and New Hampshire the week before, I was amazed by the activists I met, and humbled by the enthusiastic crowds that greeted me at every stop.
Repeatedly, voters told me that they want an open and frank conversation about the future of our party and our country. One of the many great things about the people of Iowa and New Hampshire is that they take seriously and personally their responsibility to vet anyone offering themselves for higher office.
Here is a short video so you can see first hand what I am seeing on the ground.
There are moments in our history when new leadership is needed to move our country forward. This is one of them.
I am encouraged and look forward to the road ahead.
Martin O'Malley
His website
http://martinomalley.com/
Unlike Republicans, he secured his name as a domain
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)No no no no no no no.
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I think he has a shot. And, with the assumption that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders don't run, I like O'Malley the best, so far
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I said assuming they don't. If he jumps in the race I am backing him.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)O'Malley is not even as far Left as Hillary Clinton...sorry!
http://www.ontheissues.org/Martin_O%60Malley.htm
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Until they actually take one of these themselves they're not at all useful. I have seen both Hillary and President Obama all over the place on these things
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Doesn't change the fact of what has been shown on many different sites.
Until the people take the time to fill these out themselves, it's nothing but conjecture.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)until then...its nothing but conjecture!
marym625
(17,997 posts)You have some issues and I really wish you would work them out elsewhere.
There is already proof on this thread. If that's not enough for you, too bad
progressoid
(50,000 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)A person can't vote for wars and support offshoring of jobs and wall street and get a rating like this:
It's fucking bullshit but get used to a LOT of spam and cuts and pastes from the site and this wretched lying graphic:
On the Issues is a hack personal site, not at all scientifically conducted, consisting mostly of quotes (in Hillary's case) which really end up being meaningless when contrasted with voting record.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)It's just a fact.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Supported decision to target Osama bin Laden. (Sep 2013)
Would have never diverted attention from Afghanistan. (Jan 2008)
After 9/11:Those helping terrorists would feel wrath of US. (Jun 2007)
1960s conversion to liberalism based on opposing Vietnam. (Jun 2007)
At Wellesley in 68, steered anti-war movement within system. (Jun 2007)
I have seen firsthand terrorists terrible damage. (Jun 2007)
Ok to target Al Qaeda in Pakistan; we did that 10 years ago. (Jan 2006)
Strategizing about Pakistan destabilizes a nuclear power. (Aug 2007)
Iran
Policy of prevention, not containment, on Iranian nukes. (Jan 2013)
Trust but verify Iran: goal is diplomacy & open inspections. (Jan 2013)
Massive retaliation from US if Iran attacks Israel. (Apr 2008)
Continue diplomatic engagement with Iran. (Dec 2007)
Believed, with others, that Iran was pursuing nuclear weapon. (Dec 2007)
Pledge that Iran will not develop a nuclear bomb. (Oct 2007)
Rushing to war with Iran vs. doing nothing is a false choice. (Oct 2007)
Irans Revolutionary Guard promotes terrorism. (Sep 2007)
Prevent Iran from becoming nuclear power by diplomacy first. (Sep 2007)
Rule out nukes against Iran. (Aug 2007)
Iran having a nuclear weapon is absolutely unacceptable. (Jun 2007)
Iraq War
I got it wrong on 2002 Iraq War vote. (Jun 2014)
OpEd: Iraq war follows tradition of active US leadership. (Jun 2012)
OpEd: 2003 Iraq vote unmistakably authorized war. (Nov 2010)
2007: Avoided war apology to avoid "flip-flopper" label. (Jan 2010)
2007: Opposed funding Iraq War; no escalation. (Aug 2009)
2002: Saddam gave aid to Al Qaeda terrorists. (Oct 2008)
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have. (Feb 2008)
Some tactical success in Iraq, but no strategic success yet. (Feb 2008)
Leaving 130,000 troops in Iraq is irresponsible abdication. (Jan 2008)
Have nearly all combat troops out in a year. (Jan 2008)
Voted against precedent of US subordinate to UN in Iraq. (Jan 2008)
Iraq war authorization was not authority for preemption. (Jan 2008)
Told by the White House how the war resolution would be used. (Jan 2008)
Withdrawing troops is dangerous, including 100,000 civilians. (Jan 2008)
No military solution in Iraq; this debate motivates solution. (Jan 2008)
Called war on terror Bushs war but has played active role. (Nov 2007)
2002: Accepted connection between Saddam & Al Qaeda. (Nov 2007)
Leave combat troops in Iraq only for conterterrorism. (Sep 2007)
Pentagon calls her unpatriotic for asking about exit plan. (Jul 2007)
Bush misused authorization for war. (Jun 2007)
The Iraq war is Bushs war. (Jun 2007)
Iraq war wouldnt have happened had the inspectors been sent. (Jun 2007)
It was a mistake to trust Bush on his judgment to wage war. (Jun 2007)
This war is up to Iraqi people to win or lose, not the US. (Apr 2007)
No permanent bases, but continuing residual force in Iraq. (Apr 2007)
Takes responsibility for Iraq war vote, but not a mistake. (Feb 2007)
OpEd: Voting for war enabled criticizing how it was waged. (Oct 2005)
2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N. (Feb 2004)
2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it. (Feb 2004)
Middle East
Not helping Free Syrian Army left vacuum for ISIS to fill. (Aug 2014)
Don't demand complete moratorium on Israeli settlement. (Jun 2014)
2012: We helped Syrian rebels, but we should have done more. (Jun 2014)
Invested in Israel: negotiate a ceasefire in Gaza. (Jun 2014)
I wanted to arm Syrian rebels, along with regional partners. (Jun 2014)
Obama rejected her 2012 plan to arm the Syrian rebels. (Aug 2013)
Clinton-Gates combo won push for Afghan surge. (Jun 2012)
Supports border security fence in Israel. (Oct 2006)
Cut off US aid if Palestine declares a state unilaterally. (Oct 2000)
Focuses on increasing relationship between US and Israel. (Oct 2000)
Support Israel in finding a safe and secure peace. (May 2000)
Extend peace treaties to Palestinians, Syrians & Lebanese. (Nov 1999)
Russia
Putin's annexing Crimea plays outdated zero-sum game. (Jun 2014)
Putin wants to reassert Russia's dominance in its own areas. (Jun 2014)
Contain Russia or Putin will expand beyond Crimea. (Apr 2014)
Voting Record
Iraq war vote was meant to be used as coercive diplomacy. (Jan 2008)
Voted against Levin Amendment: it gave UN veto over US. (Jan 2008)
Voted for Iraq war based on available info; now would not. (Apr 2007)
Critic of Iraq war, but wont recant 2002 vote in its favor. (Nov 2006)
Regrets Bushs handling of war, but not her war vote. (Oct 2006)
Voted YES on designating Iran's Revolutionary Guards as terrorists. (Sep 2007)
Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding. (Apr 2005)
Voted YES on $86 billion for military operations in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Oct 2003)
Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002)
Condemns anti-Muslim bigotry in name of anti-terrorism. (Oct 2001)
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq. (Jan 2007)
Deploy UN multinational peacekeeping force in Darfur. (Jul 2007)
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I'll find her name, it's public knowledge
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Issues2000.org Staff
Dr. Naomi Lichtenberg, President & CEO
MA Columbia University, PhD Indiana University
Jesse Gordon, content manager & technical manager
MPP Harvard University
Cathy D. Wanzo, content editor, Senate races
MPA Harvard University
Dr. Catherine A. Womack, content editor, Vice Presidential races
MA, Univ. of S.C.; PhD, MIT
Paul Hrabal, VoteMatch manager
Proprietor of GoVote.com
Jan Innes & Lisa Thomas, graphic designers
Matthew Handlemam & Vlad Koval, technical staff
Volunteer Staff
Jeff Rushing, GOP candidates
Alan K. Jansen, Libertarian Party candidates
Dr. Travis Kidd, Constitution Party candidates
Paul Wilson, Natural Law Party candidates
Tony Santini, Green Party candidates
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)http://whois.domaintools.com/ontheissues.org
Dr. Naomi Lichtenberg is the head, of course she has help but she alone makes the decisions.
There is no peer review, she can select whichever positions, votes, comments she wishes to make anyone look good or bad.
It would NEVER be allowed as a source for even a middle school essay.
It's an advocacy website, unreliable.
I think Naomi is a nutcase.
The charts are way stoopid.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Epic Fail!
That name as the owner of the domain of a website that she is CEO doesn't prove its a one person operation....LMMFAO!!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Issues2000.org Staff
Dr. Naomi Lichtenberg, President & CEO
MA Columbia University, PhD Indiana University
Jesse Gordon, content manager & technical manager
MPP Harvard University
Cathy D. Wanzo, content editor, Senate races
MPA Harvard University
Dr. Catherine A. Womack, content editor, Vice Presidential races
MA, Univ. of S.C.; PhD, MIT
Paul Hrabal, VoteMatch manager
Proprietor of GoVote.com
Jan Innes & Lisa Thomas, graphic designers
Matthew Handlemam & Vlad Koval, technical staff
Volunteer Staff
Jeff Rushing, GOP candidates
Alan K. Jansen, Libertarian Party candidates
Dr. Travis Kidd, Constitution Party candidates
Paul Wilson, Natural Law Party candidates
Tony Santini, Green Party candidates
(not to mention so active it has been in existence for 15 yrs!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...even you don't believe THAT, now do you?
Clinton:
Warren:
THEY USE THE EXACT SAME IMAGE FOR BOTH WOMEN!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Uh perhaps they have the same results?
Try reading WHY they reached the results depicted by the charts.....there's a start.
Oh and here is Barack Obama's.....
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Everyone knows she did it for her future presidential run.
That's almost worse than being pro-war.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Proof please!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Later tho I'm driving now
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)But I agree with you
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)How many times does she have to tell you she won't?
marym625
(17,997 posts)We were asked to post for our candidates. I did.
I don't believe she will run. I think that's pretty clear. Sorry you can't seem to decipher it. Or that I didn't just respond to someone else with what you say. I will certainly keep you in mind any time I answer someone in the future so as not to hurt your delicate sensibilities
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)there is no way Clinton will pick a white male from the Northeast. It makes no sense.
He knows that.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)You know that!
cali
(114,904 posts)this ain't rocket science
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)but yeah, I see your point.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Generally pretty liberal (despite the recent election), reliably blue in the Presidential election. But I spent most of my life in Southern Maryland, so I know it definitely has a certain element in it, politically, if you know what I mean.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)They were white Protestant males from adjoining states.
O'Malley is a male Catholic with executive experience in city and state government. Those characteristics are all complementary to Hillary.
Maryland is generally considered a border state and it's not all that close to New York -- plus which, Clinton isn't strongly identified with New York in many people's minds anyway, given that she moved there fairly late in life and only to run for Senator.
If Clinton wins the nomination but O'Malley has made a good impression on the campaign trail and shown some electoral strength, and -- the biggest uncertainty -- if the contest between the two has been cordial and nonconfrontational, then I think he'd be on the short list.
I personally am hoping for a campaign that is confrontational. I'm hoping O'Malley channels his inner Sa ders/Warren and mounts a frankly ideological campaign. In this scenario, he criticizes Clinton as being too conservative on a range of issues. By doing so he reduces the likelihood of being her VP but increases the likelihood that he mobilizes progressive discontent within the party and pulls off the upset to head the ticket.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Is that the Northeast would support the Democrats regardless, but a Democratic ticket of two Southerners would pick up a few Southern states (like Arkansas) that would otherwise have gone into the Red column. However, two Northeastern Democrats on the same ticket would have a tougher time with electoral votes (as much as I would love to see a Sanders/Warren or Warren/Sanders ticket).
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The Democrats won twice with an Illinois-Delaware ticket. Before that, the Republicans won twice (won in the sense of gaining the White House) with a Texas-Texas ticket, masquerading as a Texas-Wyoming ticket to fraudulently circumvent the Constitution. In each case, the two candidates on the ticket were from states that party would almost certainly carry anyway.
In 2004, Kerry picked Edwards but still couldn't carry North Carolina (or any other Southern state).
I don't know how much geography is a factor. If Kerry had instead picked Congressmember Ted Strickland, would he thereby have carried Ohio and become President? Maybe. If Charlie Crist had won his election last year, he might be an appealing VP choice for any Democratic nominee because he could help deliver a swing state. With Crist out of the picture, maybe Tim Kaine or Mark Warner would be the "geography" choice, for help in Virginia (although probably not a good choice if O'Malley is the nominee). Julian Castro has been mentioned but his appeal would be in mobilizing Hispanics nationally, not in making Texas competitive
If you're negative about O'Malley as a Clinton running mate because of geography, are there any names that strike you as more plausible?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)But like Maryland, it was a slave state that stayed in the Union (and for probably for the same reason-- the threat of Federal intervention if it seceded).
And while Obama was a Senator from Illinois, he was also originally from Hawaii. Clinton and Gore were originally from Arkansas and Tennessee, respectively. And their first election was in 1992, when things were a little different from the situation today.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)I'm interested in learning if he's in favor of cutting the Pentagon contractors' share of our grandkids' future.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Is that a problem among most Democrats?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Didn't you know that?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)your contention?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The Knights of the Revolving Door
When War is Swell: the Carlyle Group and the Middle East at War
by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
CounterPunch, Weekend Edition September 6-8, 2013
Paris.
A couple of weeks ago, in a dress rehearsal for her next presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton, the doyenne of humanitarian interventionism, made a pit-stop at the Carlyle Group to brief former luminaries of the imperial war rooms about her shoot-first-dont-ask-questions foreign policy.
For those of you who have put the playbill of the Bush administration into a time capsule and buried it beneath the compost bin, the Carlyle Group is essentially a hedge fund for war-making and high tech espionage. They are the people who brought you the Iraq war and all those intrusive niceties of Homeland Security. Call them the Knights of the Revolving Door, many of Carlyles executives and investors having spent decades in the Pentagon, the CIA or the State Department, before cashing in for more lucrative careers as war profiteers. They are now licking their chops at the prospect for an all-out war against Syria, no doubt hoping that the conflagration will soon spread to Lebanon, Jordan and, the big prize, Iran.
For a refresher course on the sprawling tentacles of the Carlyle Group, heres an essay that first appeared in CounterPunchs print edition in 2004. Sadly, not much has changed in the intervening years, except these feted souls have gotten much, much richer. JSC
Across all fronts, Bushs war deteriorates with stunning rapidity. The death count of American soldiers killed in Iraq will soon top 1000, with no end in sight. The members of the handpicked Iraqi Governor Council are being knocked off one after another. Once loyal Shia clerics, like Ayatollah Sistani, are now telling the administration to pull out or face a nationalist insurgency. The trail of culpability for the abuse, torture and murder of Iraqi detainees seems to lead inexorably into the office of Donald Rumsfeld. The war for Iraqi oil has ended up driving the price of crude oil through the roof. Even Kurdish leaders, brutalized by the Baathists for decades, are now saying Iraq was a safer place under their nemesis Saddam Hussein. Like Medea whacking her own kids, the US turned on its own creation, Ahmed Chalabi, raiding his Baghdad compound and fingering him as an agent of the ayatollahs of Iran. And on and on it goes.
Still not all of the presidents men are in a despairing mood. Amid the wreckage, there remain opportunities for profit and plunder. Halliburton and Bechtels triumphs in Iraq have been chewed over for months. Less well chronicled is the profiteering of the Carlyle Group, a company with ties that extend directly into the Oval Office itself.
Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his sons war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. Theyve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you dont need to hire lobbyists..
Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle. The ex-president doesnt negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyles behalf.
One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osamas half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyles accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.
CONTINUED...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/06/when-war-is-swell-the-carlyle-group-and-the-middle-east-at-war/
For some reason, many on "the left" at CounterPunch, like the super-scribes at the New York Times, have failed to make clear Carlyle Group's connection to the NSA spying scandal: They OWN it.
Behind the Curtain: Booz Allen Hamilton and its Owner, The Carlyle Group
Written by Bob Adelmann
The New American; June 13, 2013
According to writers Thomas Heath and Marjorie Censer at the Washington Post, The Carlyle Group and its errant child, Booz Allen Hamilton (BAH), have a public relations problem, thanks to NSA leaker and former BAH employee Edward Snowden. By the time top management at BAH learned that one of their top level agents had gone rogue, and terminated his employment, it was too late.
For years Carlyle had, according to the Post, nurtured a reputation as a financially sophisticated asset manager that buys and sells everything from railroads to oil refineries; but now the light from the Snowden revelations has revealed nothing more than two companies, parent and child, bound by the thread of turning government secrets into profits.
And have they ever. When The Carlyle Group bought BAH back in 2008, it was totally dependent upon government contracts in the fields of information technology (IT) and systems engineering for its bread and butter. But there wasn't much butter: After two years the companys gross revenues were $5.1 billion but net profits were a minuscule $25 million, close to a rounding error on the companys financial statement. In 2012, however, BAH grossed $5.8 billion and showed earnings of $219 million, nearly a nine-fold increase in net revenues and a nice gain in value for Carlyle.
Unwittingly, the Post authors exposed the real reason for the jump in profitability: close ties and interconnected relationships between top people at Carlyle and BAH, and the agencies with which they are working. The authors quoted George Price, an equity analyst at BB&T Capital: "[Booz Allen has] got a great brand, they've focused over time on hiring top people, including bringing on people who have a lot of senior government experience." (Emphasis added.)
For instance, James Clapper had a stint at BAH before becoming the current Director of National Intelligence; George Little consulted with BAH before taking a position at the Central Intelligence Agency; John McConnell, now vice chairman at BAH, was director of the National Security Agency (NSA) in the 90s before moving up to director of national intelligence in 2007; Todd Park began his career with BAH and now serves as the country's chief technology officer; James Woolsey, currently a senior vice president at BAH, served in the past as director of the Central Intelligence Agency; and so on.
BAH has had more than a little problem with self-dealing and conflicts of interest over the years. For instance in 2006 the European Commission asked the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and Privacy International (PI) to investigate BAHs involvement with President George Bushs SWIFT surveillance program, which was viewed by that administration as just another tool in its so-called War on Terror. The only problem is that it was illegal, as it violated U.S., Belgian, and European privacy laws. BAH was right in the middle of it. According to the ACLU/PI report,
Though Booz Allens role is to verify that the access to the SWIFT data is not abused, its relationship with the U.S. Government calls its objectivity significantly into question. (Emphasis added.)
Among Booz Allens senior consulting staff are several former members of the intelligence community, including a former Director of the CIA and a former director of the NSA.
As noted by Barry Steinhardt, an ACLU director, Its bad enough that the [Bush] administration is trying to hold out a private company as a substitute for genuine checks and balances on its surveillance activities. But of all companies to perform audits on a secret surveillance program, it would be difficult to find one less objective and more intertwined with the U.S. government security establishment. (Emphasis added.)
CONTINUED w Links n Privatized INTEL...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15696-behind-the-curtain-booz-allen-hamilton-and-its-owner-the-carlyle-group
Are you interested in discussion or are you just trying to get me angry so I tell you where to go so you can hit Alert, VanillaRhapsody?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)And you can tell me where to go...it will be someone else that will alert on you!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Here's a documentary, for those who think reading is a chore:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/iron-triangle-the-carlyle-group-2/
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that such a thing as the Carlyle Group exists?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)From war. Take the PNAC crowd, please.
Neocons and Liberals Together, Again
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security...
Tom Barry, last updated: February 02, 2005
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security strategy with a new public letter stating that the "U.S. military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume." Rather than reining in the imperial scope of U.S. national security strategy as set forth by the first Bush administration, PNAC and the letter's signatories call for increasing the size of America's global fighting machine.
SNIP...
Liberal Hawks Fly with the Neocons
The recent PNAC letter to Congress was not the first time that PNAC or its associated front groups, such as the Coalition for the Liberation of Iraq, have included hawkish Democrats.
Two PNAC letters in March 2003 played to those Democrats who believed that the invasion was justified at least as much by humanitarian concerns as it was by the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction. PNAC and the neocon camp had managed to translate their military agenda of preemptive and preventive strikes into national security policy. With the invasion underway, they sought to preempt those hardliners and military officials who opted for a quick exit strategy in Iraq. In their March 19th letter, PNAC stated that Washington should plan to stay in Iraq for the long haul: "Everyone-those who have joined the coalition, those who have stood aside, those who opposed military action, and, most of all, the Iraqi people and their neighbors-must understand that we are committed to the rebuilding of Iraq and will provide the necessary resources and will remain for as long as it takes."
Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings. A second post-Iraq war letter by PNAC on March 28 called for broader international support for reconstruction, including the involvement of NATO, and brought together the same Democrats with the prominent addition of another Brookings' foreign policy scholar, Michael O'Hanlon.
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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Neocons_and_Liberals_Together_Again
That's from Rightweb. They're full of facts, for those who take the time to read and learn. One name to pay attention to is Victoria Nuland, our woman in Ukraine, who is married to PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan
Robert Kagan's brother is Frederick Kagan
Frederick Kagan's spouse is Kimberly Kagan
Brilliant people, big ideas, etc. The thing is, that's a lot of PNAC. And the PNAC approach to international relations means more wars without end for profits without cease, among other things detrimental to democracy, peace and justice.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you very much.
Don't think you are wasting your time because I and others will/are reading it. But yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
djean111
(14,255 posts)No matter how very many times you post it. Other people are entitled to their opinions.
NYC Liberal
(20,137 posts)http://www.thenewamerican.com/about
Bob Adelmann is a right-wing nut that includes being a birther and a climate change denier as well as a member of the John Birch Society who has written fascinating articles such as:
- [*]Environmentalists Lose More Credibility With Global-warming Claims
[*]Big Labor Suffers Another Blow in Wisconsin
[*]Questions Senators Wont Be Asking Loretta Lynch, Obamas Attorney General Nominee
[*]New Evidence that Obama Was Born in Kenya is Explained Away
[*]Obama Picks Another Leftist for Housing Secretary
[*]Obama Ludicrously Links California Drought to Climate Change
[*]The President's Lies Are Finally Catching Up With Him
And in his own words:
http://lightfromtheright.com/meet-bob-adelmann/
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Carlyle Group spawned many identical monsters. Just-ex Government big wigs and their cronies use inside information gleaned from their future employees working in government to see where the wars are and are going to be.
Below, where he literally belongs, Richard "PNAC Pearl Harbor" Perle and his $10 million pitch to Adnan "Iran-Contra and Selection 2000 Fixer-Upper" Khashoggi, please:
Lunch With The Chairman
by Seymour Hersh
The New Yorker March 17, 2003
EXCERPT...
The Defense Policy Board is a Defense Department advisory group composed primarily of highly respected former government officials, retired military officers, and academics. Its members, who serve without pay, include former national-security advisers, Secretaries of Defense, and heads of the C.I.A. The board meets several times a year at the Pentagon to review and assess the countrys strategic defense policies.
Perle is also a managing partner in a venture-capital company called Trireme Partners L.P., which was registered in November, 2001, in Delaware. Triremes main business, according to a two-page letter that one of its representatives sent to Khashoggi last November, is to invest in companies dealing in technology, goods, and services that are of value to homeland security and defense. The letter argued that the fear of terrorism would increase the demand for such products in Europe and in countries like Saudi Arabia and Singapore.
The letter mentioned the firms government connections prominently: Three of Triremes Management Group members currently advise the U.S. Secretary of Defense by serving on the U.S. Defense Policy Board, and one of Triremes principals, Richard Perle, is chairman of that Board. The two other policy-board members associated with Trireme are Henry Kissinger, the former Secretary of State (who is, in fact, only a member of Triremes advisory group and is not involved in its management), and Gerald Hillman, an investor and a close business associate of Perles who handles matters in Triremes New York office. The letter said that forty-five million dollars had already been raised, including twenty million dollars from Boeing; the purpose, clearly, was to attract more investors, such as Khashoggi and Zuhair.
Perle served as a foreign-policy adviser in George W. Bushs Presidential campaignhe had been an Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reaganbut he chose not to take a senior position in the Administration. In mid-2001, however, he accepted an offer from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to chair the Defense Policy Board, a then obscure group that had been created by the Defense Department in 1985. Its members (there are around thirty of them) may be outside the government, but they have access to classified information and to senior policymakers, and give advice not only on strategic policy but also on such matters as weapons procurement. Most of the boards proceedings are confidential.
As chairman of the board, Perle is considered to be a special government employee and therefore subject to a federal Code of Conduct. Those rules bar a special employee from participating in an official capacity in any matter in which he has a financial interest. One of the general rules is that you dont take advantage of your federal position to help yourself financially in any way, a former government attorney who helped formulate the Code of Conduct told me. The point, the attorney added, is to protect government processes from actual or apparent conflicts.
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http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2003/03/17/030317fa_fact?currentPage=all
PS: I won't edit that post so others can see what you're writing about. Thank you for pointing out his affiliations, NYC Liberal.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Can't believe the heaping outrage over acting like a democrat, you know, interested in finding and nominating the best candidate and actually VOTING for him or her.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)And now THAT has blown back to corrupt the national soul with wars for profit on innocent people and countries.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that would be HER!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)I'm in Michigan. The primary here is sometime in 2016. Remind me to report the results to you.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Please just support your candidate and leave Hillary alone.
Yep, all discourse is just those that don't support Hillary being mean.
Sigh.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,932 posts)Hillary is third. Warren and Sanders don't register for me at all.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)O'Malley's March
JustAnotherGen
(31,932 posts)Remember that?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Instead, he deregulated Wall Street and the New Deal protections with Senate republian now UBS vice chairman, Phil Gramm.
Wealth Management, they call it now days:
http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html
JustAnotherGen
(31,932 posts)He was pretty much the only white guy in power on my side in America in 1994.
Somone has to lose and someone has to win. Simple message/lesson learned from Croquet.
He is obviously not alone but he is sure part of why the banks and corporations own the country
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)I promise no comment, good, bad or indifferent.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Or because you don't care for them?
Until we have more information about who will run, I'm obviously with you on O'Malley
Nice to see you!
JustAnotherGen
(31,932 posts)She's been very clear about that.
Sanders hasn't declared - but he'd have to Declare as a D to get my attention.
It's not a matter of 'don't care' for them . . .
I'll focus on the positives - in looking at (Biden - but he's not running ) O'Malley, Webb, and Clinton have VERY long records as Democratic Party members and I can see how each has evolved.
I'm not a Green, a Democratic Socialist and I've never been a Republican. I certainly wasn't one in the early 1990's when I came of age to vote and saw the Republican party blame every ill in society on young women that looked like me.
So sometimes there just "ain't no takesy backsey".
marym625
(17,997 posts)On Warren and Sanders.
I liked Biden a great deal a while ago. I am not sure I think he can win though.
I just wish they would announce already! The ones that are going to I mean. Obviously
JustAnotherGen
(31,932 posts)And I agree 100% with O'Malley -
Nothing.
I mean NOTHING is inevitable . . . but he should have added with the exception of death. It's the great equalizer.
And the fact that he said it out loud - tells me he thinks he can beat her.
Not everyone loves an under dog - but I certainly do.
Go ahead and let Warren endorse Clinton.
I've got a feeling Sanders won't be.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Too much conflict with what Warren is all about.
I suspect Sanders won't either.
I love a good underdog!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you
marym625
(17,997 posts)I didn't know this
Octafish
(55,745 posts)For instance, 48-percent of Catholics consider themselves Democrats or lean-Democratic as opposed to 33-percent of Catholics who consider themselves Republicon or lean-Repukish.
http://religions.pewforum.org/portraits
marym625
(17,997 posts)I know that my irish Catholic family wouldn't.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)It sure seems to be getting close to the wire. I wish they would just announce already
Evergreen Emerald
(13,071 posts)In looking at the differences between he and Clinton...I see that he has zero foreign policy experience. Less experience in governing. His top corporate donors include lobbyists and finance, insurance and real estate... And Clinton is more liberal in her stances on the issues both social and economic.
So, "anyone but Clinton" crowd might be happy with less experience, less liberalism, less knowledge of foreign policy, less knowledge of governing.
marym625
(17,997 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)I would like to see him toss his hat into the race.
Nothing wrong with seeing who's on our team & hearing from different players. How is that 'anyone but Clinton'?
marym625
(17,997 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)I hope he does announce soon.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,772 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)That's a great start! Thank you!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)He remains in the top spot, though.
marym625
(17,997 posts)At least of those we suspect might run.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Those two are closest to me politically. Not perfect, but neither am I.
marym625
(17,997 posts)So there ya go.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)That's encouraging
kwassa
(23,340 posts)been my governor for eight years.
With his band, O'Malley's March.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Very cool! Thanks!
UTUSN
(70,761 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:21 PM - Edit history (2)
marym625
(17,997 posts)What does the #26 mean? I'm guessing it just didn't translate from some picture?
Response to marym625 (Original post)
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marym625
(17,997 posts)I didn't make it clear where the email from O'Malley started in the OP. I just fixed it. Those are his words, not mine.
However, if he does declare, and I decide to volunteer for him and not Duckworth, I will share everything
Thank you for your reply. My apologies again
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)I deleted my OP to hide my stupidity. You did make yourself clear, but it was wishful thinking that distorted your message, not your words..
Love and good luck with the volunteering. I'm too old to go, but my man got in in 2008, still there, and I can't find anyone who could close to taking his place....will give your O'Malley another look.
marym625
(17,997 posts)It wasn't very clear. So thank you.
We are going to have to elect someone else. Those are the rules
You're never too old. But I understand that!
Thank you! Very sweet post