We're all also referring to Jeb as Jeb, too, not as 'Bush'.

More like you dismissed the obvious.

Perhaps a misplaced familiarity, but obviiusly not an uncommon one. Hasbnothing to do with Bill Clinton owning the name for gads sake. Hell, call her Madam secretary if you wish. Or Senator.

I think most use Hillary to distinguish her from Bill.

Just like most use Jeb to distinguish him from GHWB or GWB.

I don't 'deride' someone by referring to them by their own names or chosen nicknames.

If you 'deride' someone, you do so by using a nickname you chose for them that 'diminishes' them.

Or Rubio or any of the others when i refer to them by last name

I think RFK back in the day got a lot of "Bobby." too.

Also, Hillary is a very powerful franchise.

There's only one Clinton in the news recently. Not that hard to add "Bill" in the relatively rare cases when he shows up.

Probably not. But people aren't going to train themselves to refer to a candidate in a different way simply to please you (or me, or most anyone.)

If the candidate herself comes out and specifically asks people to refer to her as 'Clinton' (or 'Senator' or 'Madame Secretary') then I imagine a lot of folks would.

It gets very confusing when there are two presidents or presidential candidates with the same last name.

or because it's disrespectful or...?

And if we call virtually every other politician by their last name. Even when Obama used Barack during his campaign.

B. The reason why some women are annoyed is that the naming issue is a common one for professional women esp. after they get married. And what is sexist and/or disrespectful is to insist upon calling them something other than their preferred designation.

Hillary has chosen to be known publicly as Hillary, and therefore I call her Hillary. I strongly suspect this is because she never wanted to be known as "Mrs. Clinton". Early on she tried Hillary Rodham Clinton. Regardless, I call her as she choses to be known.

I am answering this time this way because I just realized you were sincere. Believe me, a woman in public life should properly be called as she wishes to be called. Anything else is sexist.

exactly.

Why wouldn't she use it?

Many of us are old enough to remember the "Bill and Hillary" or "Billary" stuff, referring to her active participation while Bill was in office. That is an asset to her now.

Obviously her campaign has chosen to use it.

Got it...

Rahm Emanuel was referred to by posters as Rahm the vast majority of the time. I think many did not even know his last name. His opponent was referred to as Chuy rather than Garcia.

I don't think it's a matter of disrespect.

yet another Clinton. Doesn't mean we have to treat her differently than we treat other politicians.

Several other politicians used the same tactic, at least for a while. Romney tried being Mitt for a while. Obama's campaign used Barack for a while in 2008.

Seems reasonable to ask why we strip her of her last name when we generally don't do that to politicians unless we particularly dislike them.

that this OP is of equal value to those focusing on pantsuits, hairstyles, etc.

And talking about how we treat her differently than other politicians.

of the exact same value and interest as those.

Including the ones that complain about "everyone" attacking Clinton for trivialities like her hair and clothing.

Why treat her differently than virtually every other politician?

Why does Bill Clinton get exclusive rights to their last name?

If she called herself sonething else we'd use that. Just like we called Mitt 'Mitt' even though his name was Willard. It's respectful to ask how people want to be called and follow suit.

confusing her with William Jefferson.

Of course, I wouldn't scold DUers for using the same term HRC uses to refer to herself.

And always has?

This is only going to be fun if we all get to be eight years younger.

Your complaint doesn't make any sense to me.

She is no longer serving in the Senate, Otherwise I would also use "Sen. Clinton". if she was still SOS the appropriate title would be Secretary Clinton.

I suspect if we get to the general and she's the nominee, more people will say "I'm voting Clinton", etc

Secretary Clinton?

or Former Senator Clinton, that might work.

and no longer do so.

But...but.....that's different. Or, something.

I think it all comes down to how the name will be perceived.

googled this a minute ago.....

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https://www.google.com.mx/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=9mUsVdukGuun8wfj6IDABg&gws_rd=ssl#q=bill+clinton&tbm=nws

That gives a lot more stories that don't talk about Bill Clinton.

add Bill when necessary. Why does Bill get exclusive rights to their last name?

ETA: I assure you after always using "Clinton" for months, there has been no confusion as to which Clinton I am referring to.

This whole OP is ridiculous...

And popular.

I know that's a shock to many on this board, but there you have it.

When it's the candidate's own preferred nomenclature . . .

because of reasons

At least for a while. Didn't change what he was called.

Maybe some "Barack the vote" puns but pretty limited.

You've said it a few times in this thread, but I don't recall Obama ever seriously branding himself or his campaign as "Barack"

Is everything going to have a sexism connotation?
I am a woman, and a feminist, yet for a variety of reasons (mainly no more Clintons no more Bushs) I am not a Hillary Supporter.
When I point out that I think her age will be a detriment, will that be sexist? What about if I point out that I thought McCain, Thompson, and dole, and Reagan for that mater were too old?

Let's just hope we can cure Alzheimer's before then (see Reagan)

For example, the list that was distributed along with the warning that they would be watching the media.

Hence my question. Why this blind spot where we grant exclusive use of their last name to Bill?

Except for in this case she seems to want us to use Hillary.
Quite honestly in most of my posts I use Clinton only because I usually end it with the tag line

No more Clintons No more Bushs

If she wins the primary I will vote for her, said for the sake of those who insist anything contrary to worshipping her is sacrilege. It's not like she's Judas you know. (damn, there's that first name thing again)

I'm Yui! or you can call me Yoshida-san.

we almost always refer to male politicians. It's far less sexist to strip her of her last name and exclusively use "Clinton" to refer to Bill Clinton.

They might mean something a bit different.

She's so familiar to everyone that she gets single name treatment. She's iconic.

This is a non-issue.

You could have wrote "Tisk. Tisk."

Or you might have wrote "Tusk. Tusk."

Do you hate woolly mammoths? Or is it because you hate John Lennon for singing "I Am the Walrus"? It has to be one of those two.

Why did you do that? Come clean. Your conscience will be soothed.

like "tu" and "vous".

Hillary. All her brochures said it....remember "Hillary" everywhere?

Always has.

Some people really do create drama.

Talk about outrage on the simplest thing. This might take the prize.

The price one pays for nepotism

It isn't like Ms Clinton is the first politician to be called by her first name. I'm not one of her fans but what the fuck.

Maybe she subconsciously (or consciously) wants to get rid of that troublesome "Clinton" part. It might be a plus if she did.

The only other recent one I can think of is Lamar! Alexander.

The whole idea of your objection to others using it is laughable and seems rather petty.

but not everyone knows that...........

But either way usually not referred to by last name itself

we should call her Rodham. Like you, I think the fact that she uses Clinton is not relevant for a reason I will not explajn.

complaining about her clothing, hair and other trivialities, it seemed like we weren't going to get to any important issues.

I forget, is this hour the time for the "Swear Loyalty Oath" post, or the "You Don't Have a Declared Candidate So Shut Up" post? I forget which one is on the even hours, and which one is on the odd.

We won't be getting back to important issues for about a year and a half.

*smh*

like "Everyone at DU Must Swear Loyalty Oaths" or "I'm so angry at people not liking Clinton. They're just Haters!"

I don't expect many serious posts for the next year and a half.

But criticizing people for calling her what she asks to be called is a bit absurd. Her logo's a big H. H is for Hillary. Thats what she wants to be called. Who are you to tell her she should only accept being called "Clinton"?

The first time she was First Lady and I addressed her as such. The second time was at a small private dinner when she was a senator and I addressed her as Senator Clinton & she surprised me & said please call me Hillary which I did. My third engagement with Hillary was at a fundraiser at which time I referred to her as Hillary and we had a great conversation.

That is why I call her Hillary and I suppose why most people do because that's what she prefers.

Is this covered in your OP?

So for the rest of us teeming masses, why not show the default respect we show other politicians?

Hillary is very personable and is not standoffish as people would want us to believe.

If Hillary is fine with it, so am I.

P.S. If I had engaged with her when she was S.O.S., I would have addressed her accordingly. And if she becomes our President I would address her as President Clinton. Until then, Hillary works great!

I don't either.