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PCIntern

(25,551 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:14 AM May 2012

Mitt Romney's Problem...

I would preface this by stating that no, I'm not Bill Frist, and yes, I can watch someone at length and posit that he or she may possess certain, shall we say, 'attributes', which are less than desirable as a candidate for public office, most certainly the Presidency of these United States. And no, I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist but I perform clinical interviews every single day, have performed well over twenty thousand in a practice lifetime and I will say that for the most part, I read people pretty well. See, the way I look at this stuff is that everyone has a 'schtick' and is more than entitled to have it, as it is critical for masking the inner self within a society which does not accept the 'id' very well in most situations involving what most of us would agree are 'normal people'. And please for the record allow me to state that I have treated a fair number of Philadelphians of great privilege - that is to say, the old-line money whose origins date back to the early 1800's and even earlier in a couple cases. They are, for the most part, fascinating people: they have great social skills when interacting with 'ordinary' folk, and yet not for one minute are you disabused of the fact that they are 'special'. It is a remarkable dynamic which I actually enjoy experiencing: it is a well-honed social skill which is obviously inculcated from youth. And although a number of these people hold political and social views which I find odious, the vast majority with whom I have interacted are really quite understanding and pragmatic when it comes to social issues. Now this may be due in part to the fact that here in Philadelphia, we have a Quaker tradition which pervades many non-Quaker Protestant sects - at least that was explained to me by a Lutheran minister a number of years ago.

I've been watching and listening to Romney for a long time now, and in my very humble opinion, I believe he has a real emotional lack which prohibits him from 'connecting' with the 'ordinary' citizen. The hair, the smile, the clothes, the skin, the tone of voice, and all the other characteristics which manifest themselves publically are refined to the nth degree. This is more than 'deliberate'; it is not 'incidental': this is critical to his candidacy and the perception of his public persona.

So you say, "Yes, this is all obvious. Letterman, Stewart, and Leno have been making jokes at Romney's expense for a long time now." Where I differ from the traditional point of view is that I believe that the issue is not that he only identifies with the wealthy (e.g. the NASCAR owners "gaffe&quot but that his limited script is the cover for a true lack of emotionality consistent with a position on the Spectrum of appropriate disorders - I'll leave it to you to fill-in-the-blank. He has limited range of emotion, his smile, his frown, his expressions, are all well-schooled and quite consistent no matter what subject he is addressing. For a moment, please allow me to digress: back in the old days, Nelson Rockefeller who was by almost all accounts 'successful', had been a dyslexic by some reports. Long before it was in vogue to treat this properly, he obviously was schooled and overcame this issue with vigor. He had the money, the best evaluations and treatment, and the desire to achieve his goal. Romney has done the same, but his fundamental problem is that that which he lacks, cannot be cured by treatment. At that level one form his background would require a world-class ease and serenity, and quite frankly, he doesn't have 'It'. Now before you tell me that Bush, Jr. was a first-class idjit and incompetent, may I remind you that he was not only sociopathically at ease - they possess little or no anxiety - but that everything was being manipulated at the highest levels for him - he was fully protected by an enormous machine which underlies our entire society and is the elephant in the room, so to speak.

Romney has no such ease: he 'mis-speaks' because he has no idea that what he is saying is offensive to many, he has no comprehension at a deep or at a superficial level of what anyone might infer from his statements. i would venture to say that privately, he is uneasy with himself, he is nervous and sees people (and dogs) as objects, and recites lines which he has rehearsed in his head many many many times. Many people here call him a 'liar' - this would be true if he were based in the same reality sphere in which the rest of us function, but he does not see time or events in a linear or in a planar fashion: he simply makes statements. Or sings songs: like a child who has nothing else to say who might just start singing or humming a song, romney had run oujt of words and was uneasy, so he sang. He stated that the "trees were the right height" - does that not strike anyone else as quite strange? The perception not that the trees were leafy green, or the kind he grew up with, or emotionally pleasing in their beauty, but that they had been lined up perfectly? Anyone here ever know a child who lined up his or her toys perfectly as a rule? Who sees things in that manner ONLY? I have known several and all have been evaluated and found to have 'issues'.

I know what you're thinking, but please let me state this: obsessive-compulsive behavior differs from obsessive-compulsive disorder in that the latter results in the disruption of normal existence. That you can check the stove or the light a couple times before you leave the house, but IF YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE because you're checking the burners, then you have a problem. This man has a problem, and it is both concerning and dangerous to have someone whose range of emotion is so shallow that he cannot perform normal functions and/or identify with others. Again, in my opinion, I believe that the fact that many of his own Party members cannot endorse, accept, or deal with his inevitable nomination speaks volumes about his persona and his personality. I believe that he is moderately 'disordered' for these and other reasons. I would implore Americans to, just this once, attempt to perceive the depth and complexity of this extraordinary personality, rather than simply explaining him by using terms such as 'uncaring', 'tone-deaf', or others of that ilk.

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Mitt Romney's Problem... (Original Post) PCIntern May 2012 OP
I knew after reading the title of your post it was going to be long..... Pachamama May 2012 #1
found myself.. oldhippydude May 2012 #2
Extremely well presented and reasoned Mira May 2012 #3
Thanks! I'm going to follow his behaviors closely PCIntern May 2012 #9
Good read! Old and In the Way May 2012 #4
Sound Observations. obxhead May 2012 #5
Yes, thank you PCIntern it was a fascinating read... nenagh May 2012 #6
So you believe he has OCD tendencies? sagesnow May 2012 #7
No... PCIntern May 2012 #8
? LiberalLoner May 2012 #10
or maybe LiberalLoner May 2012 #11
He is a sociopath. Like Ted Bundy. Th1onein Sep 2012 #16
After the last GOP primaries the only thing all the candidates agreed on was they hated Romney NNN0LHI May 2012 #12
Kick'n it nt Vanje May 2012 #13
Good OP. freshwest May 2012 #14
Excellent! DeSwiss May 2012 #15
I see this too.. fun n serious Sep 2012 #17

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. I knew after reading the title of your post it was going to be long.....
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:57 AM
May 2012


Thanks for your insights...i think it goes much deeper and yet I would say he is a person with a complete absence of....depth.

I just hope voters see it....

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
2. found myself..
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:24 AM
May 2012

reading each thought rather than scanning the article... glad i took the time to comprehend the depth of your observations.. thanks for breaking it down to a layman's level..

that such a person can secure the nomination is a rather sad commentary, on the political process

Mira

(22,380 posts)
3. Extremely well presented and reasoned
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:36 AM
May 2012

thank you for taking the time. The explanation of his disorder is thorough and I understand it better now, instead of simply hitting my head against the wall when I see it in action.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
4. Good read!
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:15 AM
May 2012

When you run for POTUS, you are going to be subjected to the most intense scrutiny imaginable. Every movement, every statement, every action will be reported and dissected. In many ways, Mitt reminds me of W. Both came from monied backgrounds, had alpha political fathers, and neither could really articulate a vision or compelling reason for their candidacies. The big difference is their appeal to their base...Bush could communicate in words and demeanor that allowed him to connect with his base. He was a guy you could have a beer with (maybe even a 12 pack). Mitt has none of that ability to connect with any voter that is in the bottom 90%. He may be a at ease in the board room with his peers, but that doesn't transfer to everyday life.

Contrast both to PBO....the man is totally at ease and comfortable connecting with every American. Because he can relate to the issues and problems that we all are faced with. In 2008, my wife and I were early Edwards supporters. During the primary campaign in Maine, my wife had the opportunity to talk with President Obama for an hour - along with 3 other people - over coffee. He did this everywhere he campaigned. Jobs, healthcare, education were the primary topics and my wife was impressed with both his knowledge and solutions that he wanted to implement by his proposed legislation. But he also spent time talking directly to each person...asking about their kids or their personal lives. There was nothing phony about the conversation and it was a true 2 way communication - he solicited their opinions on various topics. I think that kind of connection gives PBO the ability to speak with confidence and authority. Mitt just doesn't have that component in his character. He may go through the motions of campaigning, but his connection to the people is really non-existent.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
5. Sound Observations.
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:26 AM
May 2012

I wouldn't feel secure with Romney cat sitting (all you have to do is dump food in a bowl) much less running the country.

There is something very scary behind the scenes with Romney.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
6. Yes, thank you PCIntern it was a fascinating read...
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:32 AM
May 2012

So even among the old monied families you have met, with their ease of manner and command of social skills, that he would seem to be an anomaly with his forced laughs and breaking in to song...

Romney also seems to have some temperament issues..when angered he seems somewhat unpredictable (thousand $ bet) as well as having a ready sarcastic turn of phrase (plastic raincoats)...

Maybe that's when the real Mitt escapes

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
7. So you believe he has OCD tendencies?
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:37 AM
May 2012

In my non-trained opinion, it seems at the very least, that Romney lacks emotional intelligence, he is narcissistic and may be socio-pathic. I would love to read what trained Psychologist/Psychiatrists here at DU think. Off the record, of course.

PCIntern

(25,551 posts)
8. No...
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:41 AM
May 2012

consider what i wrote concerning his lack of emotional attachments, lack of dynamic range of expression,,,etc.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
12. After the last GOP primaries the only thing all the candidates agreed on was they hated Romney
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:54 PM
May 2012

There was a reason for that.

Don

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