I know how hard you work and respect your opinion!

Are we against elections now? Does she support TPP or not? Does she support NSA spying or not? Did she vote for the Iraq war or not? Does she support private prisons or not? Does she support Wall St deregulation or not? Does she support victimless drug war laws or not? Does she support militarizing police or not? I know these real questions annoy Clintonites but if reality bothers them it's their problem. Jeb Bush is experienced, hard working and intelligent too. Our democracy would be best served by not entitling these two families(one family if you listen to statements by Bush Sr and GW naming the Clintons as their brother and sister) any longer and letting them ride into the sunset. Expect more wars with either one and both scratching the others backs. Those in our party who support Bush lovers like the Clintons are a major disappointment and frankly embarrassing when I try to explain to my nephews what's up with our country.

That's what he does.. on the ground.. out there in the trenches against republicons.

Before they are bribed, bought and paid for or blackmailed.

here the H is fucking red! Blue arrow, red H, blue blue red blue red....make up my mind LOL

The prospects of a wondrously progressive policy flowing top-down from the Oval Office are currently remote and will remain remote until we rebuild an effective progressive movement

But some potential occupants of the Oval Office would do much more damage than others, and Clinton is not nearly among the worst of the possible occupants we will face

Elizabeth Warren has very clearheaded analysis of banksters.

diligent organizing were not remarks about what I want to see in a candidate but about what is needed to rebuild an effective progressive movement

though Bill turned out to be too republican lite. I do hope there is some good competition during the primary.

We could do a hell of a lot better too, but not the worst option.

If you can find someone better, then you are absolutely 100% entitled to talk about how they would do the job better than Hillary would.

Honestly, a positive attitude for Democrats you prefer, rather than the constant bashing, is all I've ever asked for from the left.

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Too many in our party see her as more deceitful, self-aggrandizing and shameless than the average politician. I believe people are fools to get behind her because of name recognition and I predict she will lose a general election unless people are possibly able to hold their noses and swallow their vomit. We would be fools to give up the Anti-Nepotism advantage if Bush is selected. Thank God most republicans are pathetic, scary monsters and can't beat Wall St selected Hillary but if Rand Paul or Rubio overcomes Bush say hello to Republican rule. They can both beat her.

Hillary Clinton enjoys an 80% approval among self-described liberal Democrats, lower among the moderate and conservative wings of the party. Yet all I hear on the D.U. is this kind of stuff you just regurgitated. You can't even be bothered to say who you are for. Probably because you're not for anyone or anything.

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I'm for Elizabeth Warren. I know she's not running. We have no good announced candidates other than Bernie who can't win because Hillary has hogged the spotlight with her "inevitable coronation". And polls are meaningless as you should know. I believe you and conservative democrats, especially southern democrats, need to extricate yourselves from your bubble. We have more people in prison here than China, Russia and India COMBINED!!! How can you ignore that concerning the state of our country. People who do are blind lemmings on autopilot with their heads in the sand. Please try a taste of reality. I understand Republicans are brainwashed but too many democrats are following their lead...at least in cyberspace and high office.

And your numbers may be wrong: this BBC page lists more prisoners in China and Russia combined than in the US

The numbers for China may not be accurate. It is very difficult, for example, to obtain accurate execution statistics for China, since the data are regarded as state secrets. But in the period 2002-2013, China may have executed about 78000 people. Over the same period, 610 were executed in the US; and during that time, the average annual death row population of the US was somewhere around 3200 -- so on average China has been executing every year about 100x as many people as we have, killing about twice our total death row population annually.

US incarceration profiles reflect differing local, state, and federal laws and prosecution practices. At the end of 2012, there were about 195000 federal prisoners and about 1315000 state prisoners; over half of the federal prisoners were sentenced for drug offenses and only about 10% for violent offenses, whereas over half of the state prisoners were sentenced for violent offenses and only about 16% for drug offenses. See http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf

"is this kind of stuff you just regurgitated. You can't even be bothered to say who you are for. Probably because you're not for anyone or anything...."


That being the positive attitude you ask from everyone...?
(insert distinction without a difference below to rationalize holding others to a higher standard than you hold yourself to)

You like a candidate that is other than Hillary Clinton? Then speak to his or her strengths.
So just like I have no sympathy for Republican bigots whining when they get caught being racist or sexist, my tolerance does not extend to the intolerant. I will not pretend relentlessly negative people who do nothing but bash Democrats are positive when they're not, or are of value in an election.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

…is for Right of Center.

at any moment -- and that depends on how smart and hard we work.

to come up with them. Nothing so far.

I suspect she would like to hear what the voters want before she releases specific proposals.

Plus, it's April. We have time.

and your position.