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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:56 AM Apr 2015

Pan Am Flies Again - This is for you, nostalgia fans. The good old days of flying!

Pan Am Flies Again

From its founding in the 1920s to its peak in the 1960s and 1970s, Pan Am set the standard when it came to international travel. Everyone wanted to fly Pan Am, other airlines wanted to be Pan Am, and everyone wanted to work for Pan Am. Revered by the rich and famous, the traveling public, enthusiasts and employees alike, Pan Am's legacy lives on to this day.

In an attempt to share this legacy with the world, I worked with Anthony Toth, one of the world's foremost experts on aviation history, to bring Pan Am back to life in 2014. This is the story of Pan Am Flight 120, from Los Angeles International (LAX) to London Heathrow (LHR) on a Boeing 747-200, Clipper Gem Of The Ocean.

Pan Am Flight 120


https://vimeo.com/92430997



http://www.mpkelley.com/pan-am-flies-again/

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Pan Am Flies Again - This is for you, nostalgia fans. The good old days of flying! (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
Where are the leg rests? Downwinder Apr 2015 #1
I still have Pan Am "flare" JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #2
Explain? I never did fly PAN AM. TWA, yes. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #3
Wings, little JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #6
Those are probably worth a bunch on the nostalgia market! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
I never thought of that! JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #8
You've got a veritable treasure trove there, my friend. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #9
I had wings too cwydro Apr 2015 #17
Like these? GreatGazoo Apr 2015 #10
I have couple of those JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #11
Bit of a cheat on that ponytailed FA's hair style--that should be a "bun" if we're to be accurate! MADem Apr 2015 #4
Some of the FAs from back in the day are the biggest fans Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
My mother worked for Braniff in Dallas...those were the days... CTyankee Apr 2015 #12
Those poor women! While the travel and autonomy were a plus, the whole "meat market" MADem Apr 2015 #13
Ugh. glad my mother was not a flight attendant...but she did work in an office with the other "girls CTyankee Apr 2015 #19
OMG, I used to love flying Braniff as a kid. All my favorite airlines went out of business stevenleser Apr 2015 #15
Braniff had that silver service...quite a production! CTyankee Apr 2015 #20
OMG! Food and they gave you an option! joeybee12 Apr 2015 #14
Sadly, I used to love to fly back in the 70s and 80s. Long gone... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #16
In the 90's I had a part-time job at an airline just for the flight benefits... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #18
You still get an option internationally...at least to Europe... CTyankee Apr 2015 #21
Do the American-based airlines still do that? joeybee12 Apr 2015 #22
Yes. I guess they don't want to be out of the loop with the European airlines but I think many of CTyankee Apr 2015 #25
Sounds like a great trip... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #32
Actually, not too much time in Madrid...going to the cities with CTyankee Apr 2015 #35
I flew Pan Am once. Puglover Apr 2015 #23
Maybe that was after all of their labor strife and restructuring had started? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #24
I am thinking that maybe it was Surya. Puglover Apr 2015 #28
I flew Pan Am a number of times 1982-1985. Xithras Apr 2015 #34
So those 90,000+ people that had Pan Am reservations to the moon still have realistic hope?... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #26
Interesting blast from the 30-year past! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29
To the moon, and beyond Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #33
Nice touch the bowler hats.... Historic NY Apr 2015 #27
That kind of memorabilia is worth big bucks at your local Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #30
From back when flying was an adventure, not a chore... Historic NY Apr 2015 #31
I flew on Pan Am from London to the US over 40 years ago. Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2015 #36
Agree, I always fly BA when I can. Unfortunately, out of Paris Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #37
I've been lucky so far and got BA. Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2015 #38
Heaven! 3 seats across, my definition of paradise! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #39

JustAnotherGen

(31,917 posts)
6. Wings, little
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:41 AM
Apr 2015

Gifts they would give you to keep you entertained. this was mostly in the 1970s and early 1980s.

JustAnotherGen

(31,917 posts)
8. I never thought of that!
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:34 AM
Apr 2015

For me - it's just history - of places I traveled. I read at the collegiate level when I was 8 - so imagine my ability to put pen to paper at five. My parents encouraged me to keep travel journals and so I did. However, I also kept all of my souvenirs in this tiny 'steamer' trunk. That stuff is in there along with my travel journals growing up.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. You've got a veritable treasure trove there, my friend.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:46 AM
Apr 2015

That stuff would go for big bucks at flea markets and nostalgia fairs.

I have a German friend who deals in just that kind of 'memorabilia'.

JustAnotherGen

(31,917 posts)
11. I have couple of those
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:31 AM
Apr 2015

Small little planes (the matchbox car size ones), wings, and then this coloring book with 4 crayons. I also have a scarf I conned out of one of the flight attendants when we were flying unaccompanied (my brother and me) - I must have been about 7 going out to California?

(ETA - the coloring book and crayons are still in the plastic sealed bag).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Bit of a cheat on that ponytailed FA's hair style--that should be a "bun" if we're to be accurate!
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:29 AM
Apr 2015

That drinks cart looks a little off brand, too. All in all, though, it's a good effort!


Found a blog post from an old Pan Am FA....I have a relative who started out with them, towards the end of their days, and moved on to other airlines...

http://alwayslookingabove.blogspot.com/2012/03/airline-grooming-policies.html


Here's another "old days" article (referencing the tv show that was on all too briefly):

http://www.glamour.com/fashion/blogs/dressed/2011/10/a-real-life-panam-stewardess-o

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. Some of the FAs from back in the day are the biggest fans
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:39 AM
Apr 2015

of this attraction. Like they say, 'It wasn't a job, it was a way of life.'

Thanks for the links.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Those poor women! While the travel and autonomy were a plus, the whole "meat market"
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:49 AM
Apr 2015

element probably got a little tiresome after a while--ads like that didn't help, I'm sure! In US markets, they've stopped that stuff, pretty much, but some foreign airlines still sell their product with a suggestion that their flight attendants are "on the menu" as it were.

It's a tough job with a lot of responsibility--any aircrew job is, but when you've got hundreds of people in your little narrow tube it requires a varied skillset! I admire flight attendants for their professionalism and infinite patience.

Here's one that makes one throw up a bit:



http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/02/17/selling-feminine-passivity-in-a-cathay-airlines-ad/

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. Ugh. glad my mother was not a flight attendant...but she did work in an office with the other "girls
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:47 AM
Apr 2015

funny, because they were all very mature women...

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. OMG, I used to love flying Braniff as a kid. All my favorite airlines went out of business
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:26 AM
Apr 2015

Pan Am, Braniff.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. Braniff had that silver service...quite a production!
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:50 AM
Apr 2015

I flew to South America on Braniff (we got passes!)...those days they still had propellered aircraft (!) and it took forever...I remember
looking down on the Brazilian jungle and over the Andes...quite a wonder...

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
18. In the 90's I had a part-time job at an airline just for the flight benefits...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:34 AM
Apr 2015

It was still fun to fly then...not now, though.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. You still get an option internationally...at least to Europe...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:52 AM
Apr 2015

and wine to put you to sleep going over the pond...I take half a low dose ambien and no wine...

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. Do the American-based airlines still do that?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:54 AM
Apr 2015

I remember going for a flight of about an hour and if it was noon, they gave you a full lunch...no matter how far you were going.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. Yes. I guess they don't want to be out of the loop with the European airlines but I think many of
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:04 AM
Apr 2015

them are owned by one big company...

The only thing I just can't manage any more is the schedule coming back if I don't fly directly to JFK...layovers and then a 9 hour flight back (sometimes 10 with delays) and then the long limo ride to New Haven just kills me. I'm going to Spain in early November and it's in and out of Madrid. Perfect...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. Actually, not too much time in Madrid...going to the cities with
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:44 PM
Apr 2015

Moorish inspired architecture: Seville, Granada and Cordoba...

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
23. I flew Pan Am once.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:55 AM
Apr 2015

In 1981 JFKFRAJFK. Worst flights and service I have ever experienced. (I am a retired 30 year airline employee.)

The planes both coming and going were filthy. Bifs were broken and out of service. Flight attendants served some awful slop right after take off. And we NEVER SAW THEM AGAIN. No snack for bfast no water no oj no coffee. I have flown on hundreds of flight and never seen anything remotely close to the service on these two flights. Granted I was in steerage, however it was awful for steerage.

Granted 1981 was not their heyday but the product I experienced was only memorable for it's awfulness.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
28. I am thinking that maybe it was Surya.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:12 AM
Apr 2015

I remember the cabin crew seemed awfully pissed.

But is was back in the Stone Age. What I really remember was how bad the flights were.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
34. I flew Pan Am a number of times 1982-1985.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

Was it the idyllic flying nirvana that many people wax nostalgic about? Not really. But it was still a hundred times better than anything we have today.

The thing I remember most was my little sister getting upset because I was allowed to visit the cockpit and she wasn't (she was apparently too young or something). The head stewardess (and yes, they were still stewardesses then) came over and asked if she'd like to help out the cabin crew instead. They gave her a hat, and she spent half the flight to Australia walking along with the cabin crew, handing out drinks and "assisting" as they handed out food, blankets, and other items to the passengers (which, since she was four, was seen as adorably cute by the other passengers). When she was done, not only was she given a stewardess pin, but the captain came back and thanked her for being a member of his crew (she'd taken him a drink at one point) and gave her a pair of wings as well.

I simply cannot imagine something like that happening on an airline today. It really was a different era.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
26. So those 90,000+ people that had Pan Am reservations to the moon still have realistic hope?...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:10 AM
Apr 2015

Pan Am Has 90,002 Reservations : Public Interest Grows in Flights to the Moon:
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-02-10/business/fi-3559_1_public-interest

Brother Buzz

(36,469 posts)
33. To the moon, and beyond
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

Pan Am moon-flight reservations program was established in 1968, the same year 2001: A Space Odyssey was released. Coincidence?



Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
27. Nice touch the bowler hats....
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:12 AM
Apr 2015

wonder if he got some of the 2 million plus Pan Am travel bags they handed out. I worked for the company that made them. We had a two million bag order, got sick of seeing them. Lots of them repopped out there but they weren't the same Pan Am had a cloth on vinyl fabric.

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
36. I flew on Pan Am from London to the US over 40 years ago.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:00 PM
Apr 2015

When people ask me what brought me to America I always say "Pan Am".

I also flew TWA back then and British Airways. Now I only fly British Airways to London. The food (on the return flight anyway) and service is fantastic.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
37. Agree, I always fly BA when I can. Unfortunately, out of Paris
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:07 PM
Apr 2015

you're never sure whether you'll get an American Airlines plane or British.

Last time, I got AA. Uuuggghhh!

KLM brought me to Europe back in the day!

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
38. I've been lucky so far and got BA.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:12 PM
Apr 2015

I fly Seattle/Heathrow. When I came back in October, on a very early morning flight, the plane was only about 25% full and we were told to "spread out" I had a whole row to myself. The vegetarian meal was delicious.

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