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marmar

(77,090 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:40 AM Apr 2015

Where Have All the Consumers Gone?


(Bloomberg) Retail sales rose less than expected in March after declining for three consecutive months. Since the U.S. began collecting data in 1967, only twice has it seen three-month stretches of waning retail sales in non-recessionary times.

This is puzzling. Why would consumers spend less as the economy picks up steam? And why haven't consumers gone shopping with the one percent extra income that collapsing oil prices have handed them?

Last year, most forecasters assumed consumers would promptly spend their energy savings, resulting in a blowout Christmas season. Because it makes up 70 percent of gross domestic product, consumer spending was the only sector that could push the economy from its tepid 2.3 percent real growth rate to the 3.5 percent to 4 percent rate some economists had been predicting since the recovery started. Forecasters also pinned their hopes on consumer confidence readings, which hit a 10-year peak as shown by the University of Michigan survey.

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What’s holding consumers back? Many economists blame severe winter weather, the usual scapegoat for disappointing retail sales. Yet according to the U.S. Commerce Department, people stuck at home didn't order heavily online, either.

One explanation for consumer hesitancy came in March’s payrolls report, which showed that employers created an anemic 126,000 jobs. The preceding 11-month average had been a much higher 284,000 new jobs. Most of them, however, are in low-paying sectors such as retail trade and leisure & hospitality, rather than high-paying manufacturing, utilities and information technology. Also, recent layoffs in the energy sector are of mostly well-compensated workers. .................(more)

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-04-16/consumers-are-saving-not-spending-their-energy-bill-savings




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Where Have All the Consumers Gone? (Original Post) marmar Apr 2015 OP
And when we spend, we get hammered by articles asking why we don't save. Brickbat Apr 2015 #1
And that's why society doesn't work The2ndWheel Apr 2015 #8
Who has the time to shop, when you are working 3 part time jobs? Rex Apr 2015 #2
I'll tell you where they are, they clydefrand Apr 2015 #3
Does this not include E-tail sales? Because yep- that has been a major shift. bettyellen Apr 2015 #15
No it includes them. Even they were a big disappointment apparently. marmar Apr 2015 #16
I know a lot of discretionary spending has shifted to bettyellen Apr 2015 #17
Broke! Downwinder Apr 2015 #4
And initiate a large-scale infrastructure repair plan. randome Apr 2015 #5
Bring back the WPA and CCA. Downwinder Apr 2015 #7
Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2015 #6
Exactly! City Lights Apr 2015 #10
truth. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #13
SAD Mr Dixon Apr 2015 #9
Main Street here is all second hand stores. Downwinder Apr 2015 #14
Trying to Find a Job, that pays what they used to make. nt One_Life_To_Give Apr 2015 #11
You have to have money to spend money. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #12
Consumer DEMAND drives the economy SoCalDem Apr 2015 #18
The millenials pay off student loans instead of starting famalies and buying stuff AngryAmish Apr 2015 #19
Sure must be a lot of .. sendero Apr 2015 #20
To the dollar stores nt LiberalEsto Apr 2015 #21
Consumed by cancerous greed seveneyes Apr 2015 #22
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. Who has the time to shop, when you are working 3 part time jobs?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:45 AM
Apr 2015

These economists know why...but the truth would hurt their paymasters little feelings and we cannot have that!

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
3. I'll tell you where they are, they
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:48 AM
Apr 2015

are right here where you are now, on the internet, buying, buying, more buying. I don't really buy a whole lot, but most of what I do buy is on-line. (bought expensive mattress yesterday at a bed furniture store, but then that's not something I would want to buy on-line.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. I know a lot of discretionary spending has shifted to
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015

Electronics, soft goods have been hurting for some time now.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. And initiate a large-scale infrastructure repair plan.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:52 AM
Apr 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. Precisely
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:54 AM
Apr 2015
They are indeed broke and the energy savings was probably offset by higher grocery prices and/or attempts to pay down some debt.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
9. SAD
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:09 AM
Apr 2015

I will tell you where the consumers are shopping, they at the thrift stores and dollars stores. This also speaks to how little the 1% think of the public when they are confused that we are not jumping to spend our few crumbs on their products.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
18. Consumer DEMAND drives the economy
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:00 PM
Apr 2015

If people have no discretionary income, they can only do two things:

1. stop buying stuff
2. charge it on credit cards

Millions of people have LESS credit than they have had for decades, due the the crash and consolidation of banks, and if they hit or get near the credit limit, they are D O N E spending..

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
19. The millenials pay off student loans instead of starting famalies and buying stuff
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:00 PM
Apr 2015

We have f7cked that generation but good.

We put them in debt to pay our salaries. Then bitch because they are poor.

Millenials, it won't get better here. Move abroad and tell the loan company to pound sand. Costa Rico?

sendero

(28,552 posts)
20. Sure must be a lot of ..
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:03 PM
Apr 2015

... cognitive dissonance for those of you gullible enough to buy into the "recovery" meme. There is no recovery.

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