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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:15 AM Apr 2015

Remember the U.S. France Roquefort/hormone fed beef wars of the 90's?

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Most people weren't paying attention when the World Trade Organization came into existence on January 1, 1995. But French cheese producers certainly noticed in 1999, when the United States suddenly slapped a 100 percent duty on Roquefort cheese. Other European delicacies, including Dijon mustard, French chocolate, and truffles, were also targeted in the US action.

The higher tariffs were authorized as part of the WTO's dispute process. Since the 1980s, Europe has banned the sale of hormone-treated beef, which is common in the United States. In a 1996 WTO complaint, the US charged that this law violated the EU's trade commitments. The WTO panel agreed with the United States, and authorized the United States to retaliate by slapping higher taxes on selected European products.

Like all WTO sanctions, the goal of these higher duties was to pressure European decision-makers to change the law. But the move also precipitated anger against the United States and the WTO. Shortly after the Roquefort tax went into effect, a French sheep farmer named José Bové retaliated by vandalizing a McDonald's that was under construction near his farm. The protest earned him a short prison sentence, but it also made him a global icon in the fight against the WTO.

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ou can see this same pattern in other areas of the law. Hollywood wants to extend copyright protection to the life of the author plus 70 years. Pharmaceutical companies want to make it harder to introduce generic versions of brand-name drugs. Environmental groups want stronger environmental protections. International investors want better ways to challenge alleged government expropriation of their investments.

And they all see the TPP as the perfect vehicle for doing that. If a country fails to live up to its commitments under the TPP, it can be hauled before a TPP dispute-settlement panel and — if it loses — face trade sanctions. Which means countries are likely to actually comply with their commitments — something that isn't necessarily true of other types of international agreements.

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http://www.vox.com/2015/4/17/8438995/why-obamas-new-trade-deal-is-so-controversial

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Remember the U.S. France Roquefort/hormone fed beef wars of the 90's? (Original Post) cali Apr 2015 OP
Keep in mind that TPP is a treaty, not a tariff. ucrdem Apr 2015 #1
This is insane: JDPriestly Apr 2015 #2
I was just commenting the other day how I liked Roquefort dressing over Bleu Cheese dressing.. boston bean Apr 2015 #3

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Keep in mind that TPP is a treaty, not a tariff.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:30 AM
Apr 2015

In other words the other signatories have to sign on. If the anti-privacy provisions are perceived as Draconian, they won't. And in fact, in the leaked IP draft chapter I read last year, which was a purloined negotiating document, the negotiators' notes were still attached, and those provisions seemed to be the sticking point holding up the final draft all this time. So the music publishers etc aren't necessarily going to get everything they want. In any case if you're worried you won't be able to find pirated DVDs at your local swap meet, I doubt if TPP will put a dent in the supply as China for example is not a signatory.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. This is insane:
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:47 AM
Apr 2015

"Hollywood wants to extend copyright protection to the life of the author plus 70 years."

Ridiculous. Copyrights should not be any longer than the life of the humans involved in the creation of the work.

As for movies, 50 years for a copyright is plenty long. After those reasonable time periods, it is important that works of art and literature be part of the cultural inheritance of every child and of the life of every person, whether they can afford to pay for the enjoyment of the work of art or not. How greedy can you get?

In particular, musicians like Mozart and most others derive some of their music from music written by other musicians. It's just absurd to go too far with copyrights. It will slow the development of the arts.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
3. I was just commenting the other day how I liked Roquefort dressing over Bleu Cheese dressing..
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:11 AM
Apr 2015

and why can't I find it any longer??? But I often wondered.... Ok, took 20 years for me to finally figure it out.... Thanks!

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