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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:57 AM Apr 2015

The F-35 Is Still FUBAR

A new report raises serious questions about the safety and performance of the most expensive jet fighter ever made.
—AJ Vicens

Originally slated to cost $233 billion, the Pentagon's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program could end up being costing more than $1.5 trillion. Which might not be so bad if the super-sophisticated next-generation jet fighter lives up to its hype. A recent report from the Defense Department's Director of Operational Test and Evaluation paints a pretty damning picture of the plane's already well documented problems. The report makes for some pretty dense reading, but the Project on Government Oversight, a watchdog group that's long criticized the F-35 program, has boiled down the major issues.

Here are a few:

Teaching to the test: The blizzard of testing required on the plane's equipment and parts isn't exactly going well, so the program's administrators are moving the goal posts. Test scores are improving because the stats are being "massaged" with tricks like not recounting repeated failures. Some required testing is being consolidated, eliminated, or postponed. "As a result," POGO writes, "the squadron will be flying with an uncertified avionics system."

Unsafe at any airspeed? The high-tech stuff that was supposed to make the F-35 among the most advanced war machines ever built pose serious safety risks. For example: The fuel tank system "is at significant risk of catastrophic fire and explosion in combat," according to POGO. The plane isn't adequately protected against lightning strikes (in the air or on the ground); it's currently prohibited from flying within 25 miles of thunderstorms. That's a major problem for a plane training program based in the Florida panhandle.

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http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/f35-jet-fighter-safety-problems

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The F-35 Is Still FUBAR (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2015 OP
Oh, that's beautiful about the t-storms. malthaussen Apr 2015 #1
War is a racket n/t DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #2
Yet, the MIC yammers about the expense of keeping the A-10 flying IDemo Apr 2015 #3
Yeah but it's NOT tremendously overpriced and it does its job neverforget Apr 2015 #7
Let's see, now. . . cloudbase Apr 2015 #4
But..but...it's absolutely essential to protect us from the ISIS and Taliban air forces. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #5
Meanwhile.... Bigmack Apr 2015 #6
Drones can do 20 gs without falling apart Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #8

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
1. Oh, that's beautiful about the t-storms.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

Funny, we used to have an all-weather capacity for our airplanes.

What is amazing is that while the F-35 continues to be about the greatest boondoggle ever perpetuated by the MIC, our military is struggling along with aircraft that were designed in the 70s and 80s. Somehow, though, the world hasn't ended...

-- Mal

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
3. Yet, the MIC yammers about the expense of keeping the A-10 flying
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:44 AM
Apr 2015

You know, the plane that has proven itself so well that ground troops call it "the plane we love"?

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
7. Yeah but it's NOT tremendously overpriced and it does its job
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:25 AM
Apr 2015

well. So logically speaking, it's time to replace the good with the bad and make some beaucoup bucks for the MIC.

cloudbase

(5,520 posts)
4. Let's see, now. . .
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:46 AM
Apr 2015

Defense contractors: make $$$$$$

Generals: cement post-retirement employment

Congressmen: jobs in the district

Taxpayer: fucked

Three out of four ain't bad, so quit your bitchin'.

This shit makes the money I've seen pissed away with the Military Sealift Command look like pocket change.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
6. Meanwhile....
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:07 AM
Apr 2015
http://theaviationist.com/2015/04/16/neuron-operates-from-deci/

We'll flush $1.5 Trillion down the shitter on the F-35. It may even become operational...if we throw enough money at it.

Meanwhile, the drones will be taking over.

Kinda like the "battleship" people before WWII...pushing the wrong weapon at the expense of the taxpayer.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. Drones can do 20 gs without falling apart
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
Apr 2015

the human pilot can't.

At least until we neutralize inertia like UFOs

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