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Anyone remember this rethoric coming out from Bushit and his fellows authoritarian warmongers admirers?
This was a meme supposed to stignatize anti-Bush politics people and label them as Un-Patriotic, even more terror supporters.
Everyone was shocked by it then right?
But why all of a sudden it is OK with that very similar rethoric , when they it has jump to the other side, the supposed liberal one?
Because its exactly the same poor and exclusive rethoric that was and is used by media, and Dem powerstructure to discredit ( and silent) anyone who disagree with the main candidate.
The mainstream Dem narrative is using the same weapon she xought against earlier. Following this rule, anyone who dare to diss the "official line" akd calling for debate is now seen as a RW.
Sad so many people had fallen into that trap.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)The OP is a friend of mine. She speaks fluent French and I've seen some attempts at intimidation posted in replies to her.
These do not reflect well on the members who post them, and I write this to warn them (not so much you), that I will defend anyone who is treated poorly due to their communication techniques.
Here's your link:
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)I speak 4 languages, French being one of them (French, Russian, Spanish, and English). 2-I know about Bush using that phrase, I was referring to which Dems are using it. I asked for links, that's all.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)You might have missed them, but members have on occasion tried to mock and intimidate this member.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)And so far the poster has still not given links.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Plus, you post here enough, you must also read, and I doubt that you really need links.
William769
(55,147 posts)The same place as this one? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6506132 That one got shut down pretty quick once the truth came out. Sheesh.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)On Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:52 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Where are you getting this bullshit from?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6532345
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Personal attack.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:02 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: He said the idea was bullshit - not the person.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: didn't call the poster a name, called the information a name
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Referring to "this bullshit" in response to a post is NOT a personal attack. Calling the poster "a bullshitter" might have been.
It's the beginning of election period, things are likely to get a bit robust around here, and I reckon the alerter needs to develop a thicker skin and not hit the alert button so readily. Real personal attacks happen on DU on a daily basis, and too many are allowed to stand by juries. This isn't one of them.
It's a fact that this is old, old ground being retrodden on this thread, as it was at interminable length by mylye2222 on the thread linked to, among vast numbers of times during her time on DU, which would try the patience of a saint.
Groundless alert.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Very very mild, as in saying you are pulling that out of your ass, which is common to DU.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not a personal attack
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
William769
(55,147 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It's a primary, we don't all agree on who should be the candidate... And that is okay.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...it is the implied message when we read several of the media stories and it's here on the DU.
When a Hillary supporter claims that one of us is helping the Republicans, that we should be supporting the presumed Democratic candidate, it is the same thing.
The exact same thing as GWBs admonition.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)"Reading between the lines".
Initech
(100,081 posts)So we can start phrasing this in our favor - "You're with the middle class, or you're with the economic terrorists."