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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:36 PM Apr 2015

"Either You Are With Us, Or You Are With Terrorists "

Anyone remember this rethoric coming out from Bushit and his fellows authoritarian warmongers admirers?
This was a meme supposed to stignatize anti-Bush politics people and label them as Un-Patriotic, even more terror supporters.
Everyone was shocked by it then right?
But why all of a sudden it is OK with that very similar rethoric , when they it has jump to the other side, the supposed liberal one?

Because its exactly the same poor and exclusive rethoric that was and is used by media, and Dem powerstructure to discredit ( and silent) anyone who disagree with the main candidate.
The mainstream Dem narrative is using the same weapon she xought against earlier. Following this rule, anyone who dare to diss the "official line" akd calling for debate is now seen as a RW.
Sad so many people had fallen into that trap.

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"Either You Are With Us, Or You Are With Terrorists " (Original Post) mylye2222 Apr 2015 OP
Links? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #1
You're kidding, right? This is about as well known as "I did not have sexual relations with...". NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #2
1-What does speaking French have to do with my post? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #3
I thought I indicated that my message was not intended for you. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #5
Then why reply to my post? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #13
Because yours was the first reply and mine was pre-emptive. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #14
Where are you getting this bullshit from? William769 Apr 2015 #4
I was juror #1 JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #11
Thank's. William769 Apr 2015 #12
It's not similar at all, this is a ridiculous comparison. Agschmid Apr 2015 #6
Correct. It isn't explicitly stated by the media or the candidate's surrogates, BUT... NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #7
Kick. Its a matter of mylye2222 Apr 2015 #8
Now that bin Laden is gone, the Koch Bros are the real terrorists. Initech Apr 2015 #9
WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #10
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. You're kidding, right? This is about as well known as "I did not have sexual relations with...".
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:53 PM
Apr 2015

The OP is a friend of mine. She speaks fluent French and I've seen some attempts at intimidation posted in replies to her.

These do not reflect well on the members who post them, and I write this to warn them (not so much you), that I will defend anyone who is treated poorly due to their communication techniques.

Here's your link:

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. 1-What does speaking French have to do with my post?
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:11 PM
Apr 2015

I speak 4 languages, French being one of them (French, Russian, Spanish, and English). 2-I know about Bush using that phrase, I was referring to which Dems are using it. I asked for links, that's all.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. I thought I indicated that my message was not intended for you.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:14 PM
Apr 2015

You might have missed them, but members have on occasion tried to mock and intimidate this member.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
14. Because yours was the first reply and mine was pre-emptive.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:39 PM
Apr 2015

Plus, you post here enough, you must also read, and I doubt that you really need links.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
11. I was juror #1
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015

On Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:52 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Where are you getting this bullshit from?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6532345

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:02 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: He said the idea was bullshit - not the person.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: didn't call the poster a name, called the information a name
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Referring to "this bullshit" in response to a post is NOT a personal attack. Calling the poster "a bullshitter" might have been.

It's the beginning of election period, things are likely to get a bit robust around here, and I reckon the alerter needs to develop a thicker skin and not hit the alert button so readily. Real personal attacks happen on DU on a daily basis, and too many are allowed to stand by juries. This isn't one of them.

It's a fact that this is old, old ground being retrodden on this thread, as it was at interminable length by mylye2222 on the thread linked to, among vast numbers of times during her time on DU, which would try the patience of a saint.

Groundless alert.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Very very mild, as in saying you are pulling that out of your ass, which is common to DU.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not a personal attack

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
6. It's not similar at all, this is a ridiculous comparison.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:15 PM
Apr 2015

It's a primary, we don't all agree on who should be the candidate... And that is okay.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. Correct. It isn't explicitly stated by the media or the candidate's surrogates, BUT...
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:19 PM
Apr 2015

...it is the implied message when we read several of the media stories and it's here on the DU.

When a Hillary supporter claims that one of us is helping the Republicans, that we should be supporting the presumed Democratic candidate, it is the same thing.

The exact same thing as GWBs admonition.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
9. Now that bin Laden is gone, the Koch Bros are the real terrorists.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:28 PM
Apr 2015

So we can start phrasing this in our favor - "You're with the middle class, or you're with the economic terrorists."

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