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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne thing to consider about "free trade". The loss of generational knowledge.
I love to work with my hands/tinker. Nowadays my health limits this but when I was an active worker I was often gifted knowledge.
Knowledge that came from years of doing whatever it is you did. And this type of knowledge can not be drawn into training video's or books with the same effect. It is earned by meal & bone/ blood & sweat.
This knowledge blooms creativity. The people will find a better way to build or improve upon a design. Or possibly entire leaps into a new technology.
All lost when you ship the jobs away to the lowest bidder. Because those engines of creation are too busy doing the menial not the true nut & bolt work that made us a great nation.
And some people are wired to nuts and bolts, or wood & varnish. Some like to push paper (the thought of such menial tasks makes my skin crawl).
But keep in mind-jobs may be "fungible" but the knowledge lost when you retire a blue collar worker is knowledge gained over generations.
And getting it back will not be so easy. And the loss will mean a deficit in a future America when we find we have to start building things again.
Because that day will come when deals collapse or workers demand a living wage and shipping costs are up-it will happen.
But we have lost so much already thanks to the relentless drive against American workers by Republicans. To the point we are now a source of low cost employment for other nations.
This was a bad idea when it started long ago-soooo much damage done. Another deal is about to be shoved through & we loose yet again.
Because generational knowledge is more valuable than any of the powers that be have taken into account.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Knowledge is harmful.
Workers are to know only what they are told to know and not think terribly far beyond that.
Such behavior will be harshly punished.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... or so.
You see a lot of the older generation that were really good at what they did in manufacturing and other related jobs, looking for work in an environment that is no longer looking for their skill sets. Many of them are not far from just writing things off and retiring in a bit
NOW is the time to bring back manufacturing here to this country so that perhaps we can have some programs where we can leverage some of these people's knowledge to help provide knowledge transfers to a newer generation of manufacturing employees we can start building again, amongst other high tech jobs where similar knowledge has been lost and shipped overseas.
We really HAVE to say no to this TPP crap and start putting back in place tariffs, etc. so that companies who want to sell in this country have to start building stuff here too.
I think it would also help a lot of this older generation that isn't yet old enough to retire (or don't have enough money to with savings being destroyed) to get back on their feet again, and be a useful part of rebuilding our economy at the same time.
tech3149
(4,452 posts)I had seen it coming back in the 80's within my profession/trade. It was being engineered so that the bulk of the work was being done by less skilled and interchangeable utility workers. Those of us who excelled were pushed into management or out the door.
Another aspect was the decoupling of design and engineering from production. The close working relationship between the two allowed one to learn from the other to provide a better end result. With the separation of the skills the effort became more adversarial than cooperative and killed the end results of our labor.
I'm an old fart who dropped out of the game in my 50's because I saw no reason to bloody myself in a game I got nothing from. I would eagerly offer my services to mentor anyone who had an interest and opportunity to provide a fulfilling career.
My years were fulfilling until they weren't
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)There's plenty of letters and numbers left after H1B.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)that in fact governments and circumstance have to step in and prevent everyone from becoming turned into Caribbean-style slaves within and without the factory: it's the same logic of development, from Enclosure to Mao's Four Olds Campaign
como siempre, Honduras es el modelo
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/honduras-sold-libertarian-paradise-i-went-and-discovered-capitalist-nightmare
http://www.alternet.org/world/nightmare-libertarian-project-push-one-central-american-country-through-massive-privitization