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tavernier

(12,388 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:32 PM Apr 2015

I don't read discussions regarding torture of children or animals

No doubt these kinds of atrocities happen all the time, but this isn't why I come to DU. Lately I'm bombarded with them and to be honest, although they are NEWS, I suffer reading these "news" bits.

Do we really need to give coverage to people who have psychological problems?

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I don't read discussions regarding torture of children or animals (Original Post) tavernier Apr 2015 OP
Aw, c'm on. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #1
those threads bother me Enrique Apr 2015 #2
I use Hide Thread for those. Hekate Apr 2015 #3
I don't like those animal abuse commercials Politicalboi Apr 2015 #4
I can't bear to read them either. shraby Apr 2015 #5
You're missing the point jberryhill Apr 2015 #6
No, it's about bringing to light of day a sub-culture that accepts and glorifies killing & torture KittyWampus Apr 2015 #13
^^ THIS ^^ n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2015 #15
Couldn't we have a discussion group tavernier Apr 2015 #7
Oh, indeed... Ino Apr 2015 #8
The point is, tavernier Apr 2015 #10
Yes. Chan790 Apr 2015 #14
No. There is a huge difference between BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #20
Not because you're sickened by reading about it... Ino Apr 2015 #19
Thanks for the heads up, I will alert the media. Nt Logical Apr 2015 #9
I trash every one of those threads. MadrasT Apr 2015 #11
So by those metrics we shouldn't discuss criminals who kill/abuse adults? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #12
I just trash those threads right off the bat. cwydro Apr 2015 #16
Yes, they are necessary. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #17
Good post, but... TeeYiYi Apr 2015 #18

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. Aw, c'm on.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:37 PM
Apr 2015

"Do we really need to give coverage to people who have psychological problems?"

It'll get a little strange around here if we're not allowed to post about Republicans.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
3. I use Hide Thread for those.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:43 PM
Apr 2015

Yes, it happens. Yes, something should be done, and I support that something. If it happens in my town, I want to see it in my local paper.

But if I wanted to poison my heart and mind with that stuff on a daily basis, I'd read one of the really trashy tabloids. I don't come to DU for that.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. I don't like those animal abuse commercials
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015

I know it happens, but I don't want to see it. They still need to do commercials for them, but they don't need to show so many abused animals. I usually change the channel, so it's all they gained.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. You're missing the point
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:32 PM
Apr 2015

It's not about the torture of the animals or children, but the righteous joy of fantasizing about retributive torture of the perpetrators.
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
13. No, it's about bringing to light of day a sub-culture that accepts and glorifies killing & torture
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:18 AM
Apr 2015

And a society that has increasingly shown a tolerance of it.

And also a media that will exploit it in regularly scheduled programming.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
7. Couldn't we have a discussion group
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:36 PM
Apr 2015

labelled "children tortured, murdered" or animals "bludgeoned, hung", etc., instead of the continuous group who seem to be fascinated with these horrendous events?

Either solve them or stop getting a pleasure out of reading about them!!!

Ino

(3,366 posts)
8. Oh, indeed...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:43 PM
Apr 2015

Let's be like Barbara...

why should we hear about body bags, and deaths... why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
10. The point is,
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:53 AM
Apr 2015

why give publicity and glorification to these monsters? In many cases the thrill of their 15 minutes of fame is enough of a motive.

And really? Because I'm sickened by reading about torture and murder, I should be compared to Barbara Bush?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
14. Yes.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:32 AM
Apr 2015

I wouldn't usually say it, but you asked.

Nobody said you shouldn't be sickened by it but complaining that it gets posted or implying that it belongs in its own forum is inappropriate. If you don't want to read it, "hide thread" is your friend. Your delicate sensibilities are not the arbiter of what is newsworthy or worth discussion.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
20. No. There is a huge difference between
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:53 AM
Apr 2015

Barbara Bush saying she doesn't want to hear any negativity and someone saying they don't want to see a steady stream of stories day after day filled with horror and the stuff of nightmares. At some point it becomes gratuitous rubber necking, and perhaps it has reached that level here.

There's nothing particularly "delicate" about someone not wanting to see the details of horrible acts against animals and children. That's just NORMAL. Reading about cats hung and babies raped and beaten every day is what is NOT NORMAL.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
19. Not because you're sickened by reading about it...
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:38 AM
Apr 2015

but because you are suggesting that we SHOULD NOT read about it, or post about it. What you said sounded exactly like Barbara Bush's "why should we hear about body bags."

We are all sickened by it... despite your denigrating claim that we are "getting a pleasure out of reading about them" or that bringing these things to light are a glorification! I hide many threads about animal/child abuse & rape. Sometimes I just can't take that wounding of my soul. But I would NEVER suggest that the atrocities be hidden away.

"Either solve them or stop getting a pleasure out of reading about them!!!" Well, the coverage is spurring action. Someone started a Facebook page "Justice for Tiger." I've sent letters to the Veterinary Review Board and the District Attorney urging them to revoke her license and prosecute her -- as have many many others. If we can stop just THIS psycho from harming other animals, it will be worth it. Maybe it will lead to a major shunning of other psychos like the one who posed with the giraffe she slaughtered.

Every gang rape I read about, I give a mini-loan to a single/divorced/widowed woman in that country (via kiva.org)... my small way of empowering a woman to be free... to gain respect, confidence and self-sufficiency.

What have YOU done with your suffering other than demand we not subject your beautiful mind to something like that?

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
11. I trash every one of those threads.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:09 AM
Apr 2015

I can't bear it.

After years of hands-on animal rescue, I have seen enough horror in real life.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. So by those metrics we shouldn't discuss criminals who kill/abuse adults?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:15 AM
Apr 2015

Like police who shoot unarmed black men?

Women who have acid thrown in their face?

Oh, you say, that has other societal issues around it.

Well, so does abuse, rape, torture and murder of children, animals, women, minorities.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. I just trash those threads right off the bat.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:08 AM
Apr 2015

I posted in the most recent one about the vet because of my utter horror and astonishment in regard to the story.

But I won't look at it anymore.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
17. Yes, they are necessary.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:36 AM
Apr 2015

Too many people ignoring them is why they keep happening again and again. I understand your pain. I feel it too. But I make myself look sometimes. Particularly when they're lying there dead because someone took my tax dollars and made it happen, and the ''elected leaders'' of this country tell us that they're sorry they killed some more children but that they're just protecting me and my way of life. And then they send some more tax money to the family of the dead children as if that makes everything right.

I owe them that much. To look at their bodies one last time, if for no other reason than to acknowledge their life. What little of it they got to have of it.

- I go piddle in my lettuce and herb garden after (can't do much else), and then I try to do something life reaffirming. And when I see my kids and grand-kids, I hug them a little tighter....

K&R



Take care..........

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
18. Good post, but...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:45 AM
Apr 2015

... I can't quite wrap my mind around why you're going piddle on your lettuce and herbs.

TYY

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