Warren backs Hillary 24/7.

.political leaning from Republican, they both came from the same generation and chose a more liberal minded path.
Kudos to them both.
Great people.

And a very beautiful pic of the Clintons. Thanks for posting.

sexist post on DU since Hillarys announcement.

Sorry about the lack of clarity there!

That was her voice-over in the ad. Just before that, she was talking about what a shitty life she had coming up, how her mother had to go to work, how her dad got sick, how she had kids too soon, etc.

It's an illustration of things she OVERCAME.

She divorced that husband (and the timeline of that divorce and her relationship with her current husband would be problematic with conservative independents if she ever decided to run for national office, but never mind that--of course, women ARE judged more harshly than men are; just look at the shit Clinton is taking...and here at DU, too). Warren eventually, and sensibly, moved forward to bigger and better things. In 1996, she made the smart decision to leave the GOP at long last and affiliate with the Democrats, and good for her. I don't hold it against her that it took her nearly three decades longer than it took Hillary to make up her mind--better late than never, I always say.

Is this what DU is all about now? Comparing how "cute" that "the girls" looked in their youth?

I agree with another DUer commenting here that this is a sexist thread. Another example of "Not DU's finest hour."

Same... Proud I got to vote for her!

I did it KNOWING that she was a former Republican--and I didn't hold it against her, either. Didn't then, don't know.

She's a fine senator for MA--and she's very effective in the senate and on the Banking Committee.

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Small gathering. She was stumping for Markey.

She is where she wants to be MADem. I do believe she will do us proud. I have no clue why so many want her to leave her seat, or maybe I do.

I took that picture with the FOX Mic in her face!

Democrat in 1996. So that "long last" lasted all of 5 years.

And she's not parsing like you are. Everything she has said doesn't sound like she was championing Democrats when she was living in those southern/western hellholes. She didn't just like them for five years--she liked them when she was in OK, and in TX, and up until she finally decided (and good for her) she didn't like them anymore.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/189657--liberal-favorite-elizabeth-warren-admits-she-was-a-republican

policies, or a man for that matter, maybe politics is too tough for them.

This is called 'reverse sexism'. I would prefer, being a woman, that when I am applying for a job, my gender is not a factor, my qualifications are what matter. And if they are not up to par, I don't want anyone trying to defend me from that criticism especially if it is legitimate and calling it 'sexism'.

What are we to do, coddle Female politicians? We women don't need coddling, we need to be viewed in terms of our careers as either qualified or not, same as anyone else.

I see criticisms of her policies, I see no 'shit' other than that.

I hate this infantalizing of women. 'Let's do the chivalrous thing and protect the lady from the mean people'. We don't need that protection when it comes to job qualifications. They either speak for themselves or they don't.

I guess her "policies" include her hairstyles and her voice.

"Reverse" sexism?

Please. There's a continuum that goes from "crap on" to "coddle." It would be nice to see people who call themselves Democrats here--but who resemble no Democrats I know IRL--treat Hillary with a modicum of decency.

I won't hold my breath, though.

to yell 'leave my candidate alone'. Democrats at least should know better than to continue this 'women are so weak' nonsense.

I saw no 'hair' posts, I've seen DOZENS addressing her positions on important issues, such her foreign policies, ties to Wall St, see all the money she is getting, another thing that stinks, the obscene amount of money going to a few candidates.

And right in the middle of a discussion about where she stands on the TPP, still unclear, we get a 'that's sexism' post. What?? We want to know where a politician stands on an important issue, and it's sexism? Ridiculous nonsense.

Democrats should refuse that money, make it a huge issue in this campaign, use it to attack Koch Funded Republicans at every opportunity.

At least one Dem has done so. Now let's level the playing field at least in our party, and SHAME the other side for taking those Corporate bribes.

Tag, now you're a sexist!

answered. Someone should do a study on this. Pin point the times when the word 'sexist' or 'racist' are dropped into a discussion.

I have concluded that anyone who demeans women with that tactic, are not worth reading. Just skip them and go on to those who are genuinely interested in what is best for this country.

And sickening, if I might add.

Political discussion here has broken down to the 8th-grade level.
And I would know, I ran for President of my class in the 7th grade . . . and won!!

people accept it. More likely people who play that game are being ignored by a large part of the community. And they DO NOT represent the women here or anywhere else I know.

And they sure aren't helping Hillary. Because she will be associated with her supporters who are characterizing her as weak when they rush to defend her each time someone simply asks a legitimate question, by yelling 'sexism'. If I were running her campaign right now, I would send out instructions to all supporters that they are to refrain from portraying her as someone who 'plays the victim' as it will definitely have a very negative effect on voters who have a right to ask questions of those who are asking for our votes.

saw no offensive posts doesn't mean they weren't posted. I'll submit you're not looking very hard. Every single thread about Clinton has some snarky remark in it that wouldn't be found were the candidate not female. This sample is simply the most egregious, but not the only one by a long shot:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026500857


If you think "shame" works in national elective politics when it comes to cash, I have a bridge for sale. The only way money can be booted out of the process is through a change in the law, and the people who pass the laws aren't motivated to do that. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.

Hate continues..
Bet you have a demeaning comment about Chelsea's baby pics too.
That is ugly stuff. Like from the mind of Limbaugh.
Truth is you wouldn't even bother to find out why Wellesley College chose her nor who it was that changed her political affiliation for the rest of her life.

Don't make your snark remarks about what you know nothing about.
Civility is a welcome.
Grow up.

... and for trying to say that there might have been another reason besides right wing Republican values that she appealed to them to vote for her, that would perhaps allow her to have even then have had more liberal values than other Republicans did at that time of her life. Thought some of you might have liked that notion. Again, sorry if I offered the notion that Republicans might vote simplistically at times.

Bye.

Back then, both the Republican party and the Democratic party had much bigger tents than they did today, and terms like "liberal Republican" and "conservative Democrat" were in common use.

and both are fucking comedy gold.



Sid

Thanks for that reminder Sid.

just FYI


New Blood required!

There is no fringe left at DU.
And if there ever were, they left DU already.

How about those who were voting Republican in 1996? Under the bus with them as well?

Hillary Clinton in 1969:

I wore a brown suede fringed vest.

Interesting Bio & quite a legacy. Very good read
I should have accomplished as much.
Thanks

"progressive" word.

This is a woman who was touting UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE in the nineties. That's not enough, though, I guess...

Guess they aren't a big enough threat.
Go figure!

RE-posted to Hillary Group. It belongs there.
Love it

Do you see the irony of reminding us Hillary was a Republican in her teens when the candidate you support was a Republican into her quadragenarian years and supported the odious presidencies of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan and the slightly less odious presidencies of George Herbert Walker Bush and Gerald Ford?

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't one supporting and organizing for Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern while the other was supporting Richard Nixon?

I think people who look back to the sixties to find fault with people have problems.

I think a politician who sees the light--even if it takes them until they're in their forties--should be commended for getting the spirit, even if it took awhile.

I just don't understand why people shit on Clinton for views she had as a consequence of parental influence that she held when she was too young to vote. These people either forget--or are too damn young to know their history--that the voting age was TWENTY ONE up until 1971. By the time HRC hit that age, she was "clean for Gene."

It makes me wonder where their heads are, frankly. If I have to really think on it, though--I know. Not DU's finest hour, as I say!

a Republican. In 1996, she switched to Democrat.

So, she was unaffiliated when Nixon, Reagan, Ford and Bush #1 were presidents. Thus, you haven't a clue who she supported.

Make things up much?

That sounds like she was an independent AFTER she left the GOP in 1996. Not before.

You're not making the case with that excerpt, sorry. Just because ABC News was able to access her party registration in PA doesn't mean that is the only place or time she voted GOP.

And OK.

And odds are good to excellent she was a REPUBLICAN there, too.

That five year period of time was a gotcha--those records, you see, were public.

She said that she was independent… you've got enough wiggle room to claim she was lying. But you won't say that outright. You will simply cast suspicion.

Your not as good at this as you think. Your usual tactic is to pound people with a barrage of words that look impressive but lead nowhere but to mock and denigrate. You've no desire to support human beings dreams for a better world but rather to shame them into thinking that the status quo is the only world that is livable.

You are an impediment to progress. And you are old and clearly in the way.

I think she was a Republican in OK, I think she was a Republican in NJ, I think she was a Republican in TX--both times, and I think she was a Republican in PA. I think she became an independent AFTER PA. I don't think she migrated to the Dems until she spent a little time in the People's Republic of Cambridge.

I am better at this than you are. That's not an opinion, either. If you think I'm into a "mock and denigrate" scene you don't understand the meanings of those words. I simply read what the links say--and they don't say what you're claiming they are saying.

You want to insist that she was only a Repubican for five years? Prove it. You haven't--and I doubt you can.


Your last two sentences--and let me QUOTE your charming remarks:

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.


-John Adams

Both smart strong women with tons of truth in what the say.
They are both wise & beautiful, and know the game D.C. plays

We are fortunate to have them. I mean who does the RW have? I hear Fiorina is planning a visit to Iowa.
As good as Carly Fiorina is at driving things into the ditch, I'm guessing she'll be behind the wheel of the Clown Car.

Warren was a registered Republican from 1991-1996. She registered as a Democrat during Bill Clinton's term. Prior to that, she was registered as an independent.

She may have voted for Bush 1 in 1992 but who know? Maybe she voted for Ross Perot.

Enough said.

She moved around a lot. OK, TX, NJ, TX, PA, MA. PA registrations are public records. We know what she was registered as in PA during that brief moment in time because a clever reporter went and looked.

You haven't posted any evidence to show that she was an Independent before or a Democrat after. In fact, your link suggests she went from GOP to Independent in 96.

And you'd think if she voted for Democrats in the eighties, she'd have said so. Which makes one figure she was a Republican back then, too--which would marry up with her "I was a Republican" comment with regard to markets.

Hillary, too, was an actual Republican.

Hillary that is?

I am sorry but i asked you a reasonable question. What years was Hillary a republican?

i thought it was in her college years.

Hillary Clinton was a Republican for all of ten minutes in her younger life.

By the time she graduated college she was done with the Republican party. She's now 67. So for 40+ years she has been a Democratic Party member. Attack her policies, attack her votes, hell, attack her pantsuits if you must but don't bring up this Goldwater bullshit to defend that Elizabeth Warren came to the Democratic party later in life. *Golf clap* for joining the party but there's a huge difference when someone is young and is just forming their political opinions and someone switching over later in life.

Never mind.
Come visit me in the Hillary Group

anywhere. I have looked for "I registered as an independent" or words to that effect from Warren, and I can't put those words in her mouth. She did say she voted for both Ds and Rs because she didn't want one party to "dominate," but she also said -- more than once-- that she was a REPUBLICAN.

I can put "I was a Republican" in her mouth--OFTEN. Links elsewhere in this thread are very clear on that score. Not just "I was a Republican for five years" either. Those five years are known because the PA voting records are public--and George Stephanopolous's staff went looking for them.

....NOT before.

So show me where she was an independent in OK and TX. I'll wait.

NT

NT

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She's saying,"Bill I want to be President of the United States. and Bill's just saying "uhhh, ok whatever your heart desires, I will get it for you".
ahhh, young love.


This OP is worth a look. Good stuff. Great Clinton pics.
Referencing to give it a proper home.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026540395

And their wanna be poor hipster clothes.

not back then.