I became hyper alert to the bullshit regarding the anthrax attacks.

or death...they seem to make up their own "truths."

If they know what lab it came from, and there were five people in the whole country with access to that lab, why couldn't they figure out who the culprit was???

And that was learned by looking at the anthrax's DNA before Colin Powell went in front
of the UN and held up his vile of fake anthrax.

I wonder why this little murder mystery has gone unsolved for 14 years?

Well, take comfort my friend. Before we know it, Jebbie'll be preznit and we'll breathe a sigh of relief as (monkey) business goes on as usual.

What did Bush know, and when did he know it?

So sorry, but until we know what happened (and I am talking about Cheney and Rummy here) and how much the players really knew - expect people to be asking for the rest of your life.

next question

I know the answers to that but the US, defense officials, etc aren't as naive & mindless wandering around with no clue Wahabbism was started by Saud dynasty.

The Saudi Role in Sept. 11 and the Hidden 9/11 Report Pages

Since the early days after the Sept. 11 attacks, when news emerged that most of the airline hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, dark allegations have lingered about official Saudi ties to the terrorists. Fueling the suspicions: 28 still-classified pages in a congressional inquiry on 9/11 that raise questions about Saudi financial support to the hijackers in the United States prior to the attacks.

Both the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama have refused to declassify the pages on grounds of national security. But critics, including members of Congress who have read the pages in the tightly guarded, underground room in the Capitol where they are held, say national security has nothing to do with it. U.S. officials, they charge, are trying to hide the double game that Saudi Arabia has long played with Washington, as both a close ally and petri dish for the world’s most toxic brand of Islamic extremism.

One of the most prominent critics is former Florida Senator Bob Graham, a Democrat who co-chaired the joint investigation of the House and Senate intelligence committees into the Sept. 11 attacks. On Wednesday, in a press conference with two current members of Congress and representatives of families who lost loved ones in the attacks, he will once again urge the Obama administration to declassify the pages—a move the White House has previously rebuffed.

“There are a lot of rocks out there that have been purposefully tamped down, that if were they turned over, would give us a more expansive view of the Saudi role” in assisting the 9/11 hijackers, Graham said in an interview. He maintains that nothing in them qualifies as a legitimate national security secret.

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According to Graham, a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, the Saudi officials “knew that people who had a mission for Osama bin Laden were in, or would soon be placed in, the United States. Whether they knew what their assignments were takes the inference too far.”

The 2002 joint congressional committee probe he co-chaired reported only that, “contacts in the United States helped hijackers find housing, open bank accounts, obtain drivers licenses, locate flight schools, and facilitate transactions.”

http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

The odd thing about keeping the "28 pages" a secret is it is such an open secret. Wahabbism & Saudi Arabia not hard to put the two & two together

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Bandar bin Sultan: This is ironic. In the mid-'80s, if you remember, we and the United - Saudi Arabia and the United States were supporting the Mujahideen to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. He [Osama bin Laden] came to thank me for my efforts to bring the Americans, our friends, to help us against the atheists, he said the communists. Isn't it ironic?

Larry King: How ironic. In other words, he came to thank you for helping bring America to help him.

Bandar bin Sultan: Right.

Former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, interviewed by Brad Friedman on the The Mike Malloy Show on June 2009 has stated: "I have information about things that our government has lied to us about. I know. For example, to say that since the fall of the Soviet Union we ceased all of our intimate relationship with Bin Laden and the Taliban - those things can be proven as lies, very easily, based on the information they classified in my case, because we did carry very intimate relationship with these people, and it involves Central Asia, all the way up to September 11."[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA%E2%80%93al-Qaeda_controversy

Sibel Edmonds testimony on the 9/11 Commission is also in the 28 pages. Here they are -- http://cryptome.org/nara/sibel-edmonds.pdf

Aside from that you had Cheney in an "undisclosed location" which was an underground bunker in the Pentagon planning a lot of the NSA & CIA plans that exist today. Now that may seem like as a far out conspiracy...

'Undisclosed location' disclosed
A visit offers some insight into Cheney hide-out

Known familiarly to government insiders as the "underground Pentagon," this is where Vice President Dick Cheney set up shop in the aftermath of the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, and where he sometimes is when his office is being secretive about Cheney's whereabouts.

The location is a highly secure complex of buildings inside Raven Rock Mountain near Blue Ridge Summit, Pa., close to the Maryland-Pennsylvania state line and about seven miles north of Camp David.

<snip>

"I work physical security at an undisclosed location in southern Pennsylvania, that's all I can say," said a well-armed fatigues-clad Army guard as he politely but firmly told the reporter that "everything you see is classified."

<snip>

Site R -- also known as Raven Rock or the Alternate Joint Communications Center -- is a 53-year-old facility conceived at the start of the Cold War as an alternate command center in the event of nuclear war or an attack on Washington.

Sloping, round-humped Raven Rock Mountain sprouts a thicket of antennae, satellite dishes, and a microwave tower. From state Route 16, the main road that passes the mountain, two oversize metal doors in the hillside are visible through the heavy foliage giving it that Fortress of Solitude touch.

Information about Site R is available on the Internet, and its location -- and use by Cheney -- appeared in several news stories even before the publication of Bamford's book.

Cheney's disappearance to undisclosed locations -- a frequent occurrence after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks -- is believed to be unprecedented for the nation's highest elected officials.

As described by Bamford, the mountain also has a helipad. "But deep inside the hard greenstone granite mountain is a secret world of five buildings, each three stories tall, computer-filled caverns, and a subterranean water reservoir," he writes.

Within hours of the Sept. 11 attacks, Bamford said, five helicopters landed on the helipad, a convoy of sport utility vehicles with black-tinted windows arrived at the main entrance, and tan buses "began laboring up the steep, two-lane road to the heavily guarded, unmarked service entrance. Among those early to arrive was Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz."

The unmarked back entrance is a twisting lane off Harbaugh Valley Road. To the unknowing, the chain-link fence with a double-wide coil of razor wire might be a tip-off, as would the guardhouse and a big red "warning" sign.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/07/20/undisclosed_location_disclosed/?page=full

Bush, I won't say wasn't smart but was useful as he'd deliver bumper sticker lines in response to detailed reasons why Gore supports this or that, Gore for a politician was actually pretty honest. He was actually a little too honest but I liked that happen about it, he just didn't challenge Bush on a lot of his BS but Gore was very sharp & logical in debates only for Bush to deliver his "compassionate coservative". Dick Cheney ran the show WTF was he doing, we'll never know the real reasons for a lot of things since they go to extreme lengths to keep things a secret.

I don't really allege something specific in terms of 9/11 I just want to know what is really on & so it is so obvious the marketed reasons for why they are doing something & go far to cover up.

We know Al-Jazeera was bombed in Afghanistan, the station was known & identifiable in the area. Not plausible it was a mistake. It happened again in Iraq. After this Bush wanted to bomb Al-Jazeera again but Tony Blair & Colin Powell talked him out of it --


Al Jazeera memo

The five-page memorandum is said by the Mirror to be a record of the meeting between the two leaders which took place on 16 April 2004 at the height of Operation Vigilant Resolve, an assault on Fallujah by U.S. Marines and Iraqi security forces. Al Jazeera reporters were in the city providing video footage of the conflict. The day before the meeting, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld described Al Jazeera's coverage as "vicious, inaccurate and inexcusable."[1] Al Jazeera reporters defended their live broadcasts of the civilian casualties by stating "the pictures do not lie".[1]

The White House has dismissed the allegations made in the article.[2] Given that Qatar is an ally of the United States and the United Kingdom in the Iraq War, many commentators have speculated that even if the reports of the memorandum are accurate, they may simply be recording a statement which the President did not intend to be taken seriously. A White House official told CNN "We are not going to dignify something so outlandish with a response," and a Pentagon official called the Daily Mirror report "absolutely absurd."[3] A BBC News correspondent has suggested that if President Bush did indeed make the comments they were intended as "some kind of joke."[4]

Writing in The Independent on 28 November Andreas Whittam Smith countered, observing that "official note takers don't normally record jokes". He also pointed to the alleged leaker's "25 years' experience of tough postings in place such as Islamabad and Khartoum, ... often involved in intelligence work" and concluded that he "must have felt exceptionally troubled by what he was seeing."[5]

According to a report in The Daily Telegraph[6]:

"People who have seen the document say the real reason that it is being suppressed by the Government is because it contains a potentially damaging private discussion between the two leaders about the controversial United States attack on the Iraqi city of Fallujah last year."

The report also stated that, when questioned about the matter at the Commonwealth conference in Malta, Blair branded the claims a "conspiracy theory."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_bombing_memo

If you ever really, I mean looked into the atrocities committed during the Battle of Fallujah it was so obvious what Bush was afraid of. We have the American Sniper movie when in reality multiple witnesses from various background of residents, humanitarian aid workers, journalists etc all claimed a "fear of looking out their windows" & the worst of it was "snipers hidden on the rooftop". The US aid worker said his colleagues hood was hit with sniper rounds trying to transport a patient out of Fallujah which checkpoints wouldn't allow teenage & older males leave. People fleeing Fallujah were shot down. Bodies tossed in the Euphrates. The right wing bashes the left for not embracing the fantasy land version of reality, if they were honest with why they support something they'd disappear quickly, the party platform is built on fairy tales.

despite what smug tools, authoritarians, and clowns want to believe.

goddamned thing I want to and no smug, authoritarian clown tool is going to tell me what I can and can't talk about.

who are you going to ask?

Now, imagine that your closest loved one was killed by that missing witness, but the government preferred other explanations.
What would you be able to do to settle the loss?

Jackshit.
ask me how I know.

...then you are crazy! Logical thinks the only time those two told the truth was their version of 9/11. And those of us who still have questions are the crazy ones.

emptiness inside your head (where your brain should be) are very real indeed.

Seriously, you need to remove that fog. Just hold your nose and BLOW!

I like to pretend that people who do not share my opinions are crazy too-- it's just more convenient that way...

see Daily Kos, on any talk at all about 9/11. No questions were allowed, to even ask a question was a BANNING 'offense'.

THAT is when I began to wonder wtf was going on.

And made me all the more interested in asking questions.

The accusations of 'Conspiracy Theorists', the attempt to demean people who had legitimate questions like 'Why on earth would the POTUS declare 'there will no investigation into this massive crime'?

I'm with you, I just watched an amazing documentary on the Nazis, and yes, shhhhh, not supposed to NEVER FORGET the Nazis either, and the silencing of those with questions was part and parcel of those who had lots to hide.

Turned out later it was those with questions who were correct.

Punchline from a joke of the 'shhh' era.

Can you give us the rest?

MWO was put to pasture by a media that could not afford to be lampooned and dissected.
Other message boards suffered from some very peculiar fatal disease.
nothing to see there.

Bundle together all theories and inquiries (crazy and not) and ascribe them to your opponents. A favorite douchebag tactic for polluting and discrediting.

vapor trails in your vast, empty head. Congratulations!

vapor trail fog spreading out in your head. It's not your fault, you can't help it.

the kind of people who reflect their narcissism in their handles? Logical eh? Why not go all the way and declare yourself smart and pretty too?

coming from someone whose handle is a word people use when they have no idea what they're talking about.

I don't vainly presume I know it all, and reflexively crap on anyone who doesn't share my every belief. A lack of doubt or introspection isn't an indication of a superior intellect.

9/11 conspiracy theories, like chemtrail conspiracy theories, have been discussed and debunked to death. People who still embrace them in the light of the overwhelming evidence against them deserve nothing but mockery.

Michael Parenti).

Here's my proof: the half of it that doesn't defy the laws of physics does basic common sense, and if you think that's wrong somehow, you're a mean old stupid poopiehead PPPPBBBBBBTTTTTTTTTTT

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You're disrupting. And your point of view is a joke.

More labels

especially about things that don't seem to be making sense to a whole lot of people?

Do you think it's better to just 'trust' what those in power tell us?

But just because you don't like or understand the answers doesn't mean they're incorrect.

It means you either don't want to or are incapable of understanding them.

just shut up and trust those in power?

Don't worry, I WILL ask all I want, so long as we are claiming to be a democracy.

Did you trust the Bush/Cheney liars? We didn't, so we kept on asking and they definitely didn't take kindly to that.

What I'm hearing from you is that Bush/Cheney were not trying to hide anything. That was why they announced there would be no investigation of 9/11, prevented the standard fire inspection from being carried out, which was unprecedented. And declared the crime was solved without any need for an investigation.

Why do you think the NYFD was forbidden from carrying out its required and standard fire inspection?

THEY wanted to know, and so did we.

And we still want to know, so you go right ahead and trust what Bush told you.

I will give known liars all the credit they deserve.

Then you need to get your hearing checked.

Follow the big Dick.

any doubts about cheney's 9/11 'official story'. You are supposed to believe bush/cheney this one time. Nevermind the anthrax thing and how it's a sham (according to the FBI)! Nooooooo! Only this one time, on 9/11, shrubco was telling the truth!

or so some people said.

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Maybe we can find out why Building Seven collapsed in its footprint even though no aircraft hit it.

Let's see:

They faked the results of the 2,000 election.

They ignored all the warnings about a possible attack on the nation. Then 9/11.


Looks like we had a little right wing coup d' etat complete with a modern equivalent Reichstag Fire.

'Patriot Act' which was anything but patriotic).

Those two bastards know a lot more about it then we will ever be told. Bush was a stupid puppet, maybe he knew.

People knew this was bullshit years ago. Glad to see it getting some traction. The question is, though, then who?

are allowed?

My ass!

hard to keep track of what is permissable to doubt.
just dont trust that Rather guy or 60 Minutes back when, and you will be just fine.
When the eagle SOARS.....

also, people who questioned them were called CTs.

So keep on asking, eventually it appears, the answers will come.

Cheney directed it, and his objective was to get the Patriot Act passed. With that accomplished, the FBI was left with only those suspects that Cheney left them, none of whom were guilty.

Goes much further than Anthrax attacks. The FBI doesn't want us to know the truth.

but if people want to find patterns, they should start with the Khobar Towers "investigation" and later conclusions,, which have since been discarded by honest insiders.
Its the lie that matters.
The truth makes nobody richer.

they stopped daschle and leahy's lead in dem opposition to patriot act. they had to leave their offices immediately. the timing was perfect, and it worked, and now we have THE PATRIOT ACT. and a lot of liberals and trolls alike blame democrats for not stopping it.

and it worked, like many such things, because people scream "CT! CT!", even tho bush chenney rove were capable of anything. and one reason they had the confidence to try anything was they knew rove could control messaging in the US - because rw radio was /is invisible to liberals.

However, the guy they blamed had multiple degrees in biological fields and yet apparently misspelled "penicillin." This is bullshit.

authoritarians idea that the NSA/CIA Secure State will take care of us like our mommy used to. Those that don't want to hear the truth, can't deal with the truth, always try to shut down these threads with the scream of CT, CT. To them I say, put your heads back into the sand and you will be fine.

whilst simultaneously not getting too stressed over the NSA/CIA operating on foreign communications. That the Bush FBI/DOJ fucked this up is completely unsurprising to anyone who has been paying attention. And that Richard Lambert---who hounded Stephen Hatfill---is now trying to be a whistleblower? Well, the karmic gods are laughing, I'm sure.

Arguably, had the NSA/CIA been more efficient, the 9/11 attacks could have been prevented. Then again, it's likely they were efficient, but ignored--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

That intelligence--from the CIA-- was not wrong, was it? Why did the White House simply ignore its own CIA?

Anthrax concerns the DoD and Dick Cheney's special offices, and their influence on the FBI/DOJ. It's best not to conflate different pieces of the security apparatus--especially when you are talking about who benefitted from what.

As for CT--well, too many people mistake sheer opportunism for prior knowledge. That is a mistake.

So unfortunately they will ignore your post.

I mean, the karmic gods must be laughing their asses off....what goes around comes around.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/us/ex-fbi-agent-claims-retaliation-for-dissent-in-anthrax-inquiry.html

I take no sides in this one.....they are all dirty.

The one who designed the original ThinThread but has shelved with Trial Blazer which collected everything, spying on US citizens without warrant who cares? You have NSA agent after NSA agent taking their concerns to government, a lot of them for reasons of inefficiency

3 NSA veterans speak out on whistle-blower: We told you so

When a National Security Agency contractor revealed top-secret details this month on the government's collection of Americans' phone and Internet records, one select group of intelligence veterans breathed a sigh of relief.

Thomas Drake, William Binney and J. Kirk Wiebe belong to a select fraternity: the NSA officials who paved the way.

For years, the three whistle-blowers had told anyone who would listen that the NSA collects huge swaths of communications data from U.S. citizens. They had spent decades in the top ranks of the agency, designing and managing the very data-collection systems they say have been turned against Americans. When they became convinced that fundamental constitutional rights were being violated, they complained first to their superiors, then to federal investigators, congressional oversight committees and, finally, to the news media.

To the intelligence community, the trio are villains who compromised what the government classifies as some of its most secret, crucial and successful initiatives. They have been investigated as criminals and forced to give up careers, reputations and friendships built over a lifetime.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/16/snowden-whistleblower-nsa-officials-roundtable/2428809/

Thomas Drake was a famous one. He leaked unclassified documents to a Baltimore Sun reporter prosecuted him & retroactively classified it like they did with Sibel Edmonds but NSA veterans, experienced brilliant people telling us we have a right to be concern & for that they come in with guns drawn to arrest them. Snowden claimed (and I have no idea why anyone would believe it couldn't possibly true) went through various multiple channels tried many ways & while he they were sympathetic, many were scared because of what happened with Thomas Drake. Others warned that they will crucify him for this.

There is own crowd what wants you to believe "they keep us safe" & have told numerous lies now proven to be untrue. The other crowd is telling you the truth. I don't care if warrant less spying keeps us safe, if you don't have probable cause or the necessary requirements (which should be strengthen, the 5th amendment has been eroded considerably since the "War on Drugs&quot now almost meaningless text on paper

I'm rooting hard for Jewel in Jewel v NSA. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is an excellent law firm, they are right firm for this one. Government just wants to keep everything a big secret. Intercepting all data communication in Barbados? Government doesn't want you to know either? May concern Bill Gates or Oprah Winfrey (people who vacation there) though probably won't mind since they are keeping them safe.

Frontline - United States of Secrets Parts 1 & 2
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/

damn them all

Democrats ;like Bill Clinton used it to push fear and war on the American people. Hope people don't forget what happened and the people who were quick to fall for it

He used the news to scare the American people that the boogeyman in Saddam could attack the US with scud missiles and yes he supported the war and my guess is that he would have invaded Iraq if he won a 3rd third.

I don't know what people need to realize that the Clinton's just like the Bush's are warmongers.

If news leaks like this continue. Remember Kennedy

At the time, troops were refusing anthrax vaccine--which limited the military's ability to weaponize it. As an FP, I had patients entreating me to write them letters exempting them from anthrax vaccination on health grounds. It was very controversial among the troops. The Pentagon responded by creating a pr campaign targeting doctors, telling them "Anthrax kills" so that they would stop advising their patients against the vaccine.Their pr campaign was a big flop.

I have always (as in from day one) believed that it was the Pentagon which mailed the anthrax. Their ploy worked. Suddenly, the troops agreed to get vaccinated.

The facts that 1) the anthrax used was a weaponized form that would be hard to get and 2) the FBI would not let them DNA test saliva found on one of the envelops confirms my suspicion. Who had the most to gain from the anthrax mailings? Our own military. Who would the FBI want to protect? Our military. Who commonly conducts biologic weapons tests on the US public? Our military.

Interesting.

Media manipulation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3754666

are you guys trying to tell me that our government would lie to us?

But I was told only the dirty commies would do things like that and have neighbors spy on neighbors along with a Pravda propaganda machine spouting the party lines.



Now, I'm really heartbroken.

the FBI don't want us to know whats going on

Like what happened the time FDR tried to use taxpayers money on helping the taxpayers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

That same family turns up in Dallas and Vietnam and Watergate and October Surprise and Iran-Contra...

the American Liberty League and Prescott Bush was smack dab in the middle of it.

They were fascist fucks who admired Mussolini and wanted to bring fascism to America.

General Smedley Butler, who they recruited to run an army of unemployed veterans they hoped to raise, instead exposed their plot.

FDR then subsequently threatened to expose their treason to the nation if they tried to block his New Deal legislation. The New Deal policies passed (Social Security, unemployment, WPA, CCC, etc.) and the thwarted repugs have been trying to get them repealed ever since.

I looked into allegations that Prescott Bush was involved in the 1933 Banker's Plot against FDR, and could find no evidence of that. The Bankers Plot primarily involved Morgan bank and members of the Du Pont family and Remington Arms, who also featured prominently in the Nye Committee "Merchants of Death" hearings. On the other hand, Prescott and Herbert Walker were employed by Harriman Brown Bros., a different Wall Street faction. They were business partners with the owners of the Steel Trust and other Nazi party funders who had major interests in Silesian coal and mining interests. The Silesian-American company, on which board Bush and Walker served, operated in the area surrounding the Buna synthetic oil and rubber plants built to operate with slave labor at Auschwitz.

Averill Harriman, Bush and Walker were named in 1942 by the Enemy Property Custodian as being on the boards of several German companies and banks providing direct funding to both the Nazi Party and Third Reich armaments industries.

The Dulles Brothers at Sullivan and Cromwell law firm represented both groups, along with the same German industrialists who backed Hitler.

That family has been up to their nose in nefarious activities that would easily be classified as seditious if not for their wealth and wasp connections.

As far a the 1933 Banker's Plot, I don't know about that but the American Liberty League coup attempt involving several prominent families (including Prescott Bush) who recruited Gen. Butler is a part of actual history.

Google the American Liberty League.

Where exactly did you read that Prescott Bush was involved in that one, too?

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so was fascinated to see this story appear. The FBI seems quite good a catching (entrapping) terror plotters that they have enabled and yet this real attack goes unsolved. Fuckin' a.

Coleen Rowley should be heading the Bureau instead of serving as a Jeopardy answer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x602016

FBI would work as intended. And traitors would be behind bars, instead of Gov. Don Siegelman. They got the tapes, thanks to illegal NSA domestic spying going back to the 1970s.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/10025745190#post11

Thank you for another great OP and thread, JEB! Your earnest work and kind words make it easy to grow old.

Keep the public scared shitless and he'll make a bundle off of war profits.

when I learned Judith Miller had anthrax mailed to her.

I'm not sure why the others were targets but it is easy to figure out this one & only journalist receiving a letter had be over some manufactured BS to justify something else, Judith Miller, I'd wager she expected the letter.

There was a letter sent to the FBI shortly before the anthrax letters were opened, anonymously accusing Ayaad Assaad of being a bioterrorist (He was quickly cleared), and this was amidst racial harassment that he endured from co-workers, seems very convenient.

Marking for later read

would say, "how conveeeeeeenient".

and yet, look at the lack of investigation into the anthrax letters to the clinics, an actual crime.

But those people would have been shunned and banned from most forums for bringing it up

Video exposing the Anthrax attack from 2012

Are you saying Republicans have been lying to us about that? How dare you! You should immediately apologize. Why do you hate America? Look at the monkey! Look at the silly monkey!

see, e.g.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/obama-claims-more-tyrannical-powers-than-hitler-or-stalin.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/08/barely-reported-totally-ignored-eus-obsequiousness-obamas-nazism-regarding-ukraine.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/us-imposed-deal-part-hitlerian-method-towards-iran-analyst.html




This is the lawsuit filed by one guy with a clear axe to grind. Grains of salt and all.

over it by claiming some nefarious conspiracy.

Could be something there, could be hot air. Responses to this story are a classic example of confirmation bias.

But forgive me if I find breathless headlines from the "Obama=Hitler" crowd to be less than compelling.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/obama-goes-nazi-races-presidencys-finish-line.html

Really should throw up a few warning flags for people, but you know.

DU2 mods used to lock this kind of garbage but hey, juries know better.

The creative speculation crusaders are going to up their game with the primaries wars already starting, they hope everyone will be so distracted we won't notice.

And they're right.

I was also leery about this source, but it lines up with information that appears in more mainstream publications.

The Washington Post had an editorial in 2011 that called for a new investigation based, in large part, upon this FBI Supervising agent's complaint and the Bureau's IG report. There isn't much new information in this piece other than the filing of a whistleblower's law suit. Otherwise, it appears pretty solid.