Well she doesn't really mean it. She intends to give the SS fund to the corporations.

Doesn't that make so much sense?

what is he waiting for?

is she willing to talk about raising it?

but yes, she's clearly light years better than any republican.

from an article published a year ago:

Last month, Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) announced plans to introduce a bill to increase the annual cost-of-living adjustments for Social Security. He proposed to pay for it by raising the Social Security payroll tax rate of the wealthiest Americans -- those who make more than $250,000 per year -- closer to the rate already paid by middle and working class American workers.

Many people don’t know that any income above $117,000 per year is not taxed by Social Security (this limit on the amount of earnings subject to the tax is adjusted annually to keep up with inflation). That means that someone who makes twice the cap this year – $234,000 – pays the tax on only half of his or her wages. And those lucky enough to make at least $1.2 million per year are taxed by Social Security on less than one-tenth of their income.

In other words, workers who make $117,000 or less per year – the vast majority, as a recent analysis by the Center for Economic and Policy Research shows -- pay a higher Social Security payroll tax rate than the 5.6 percent who make more.

Merkley will be joining Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), who also have introduced bills to apply the Social Security payroll tax to wages above $250,000. These bills are similar to a proposal by Barack Obama during the 2008 presidential campaign. The Social Security Administration’s Chief Actuary estimates that the payroll tax cap sections of these proposals would reduce the program’s long-term budget shortfall by about 80 percent.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/204996-scrapping-the-social-security-payroll-tax-cap

keep your hands off my Social Security.
I, for one, depend on SS. Cannot live without it. I paid for it. I earned it. And, it is not a luxury, believe me.

Americans forget that they pay into SSI through their pay checks every two weeks/month. SSI is earned. The GOPers have used the word "entitlement" as a misinformed weapon.

They use entitlement like it's a curse word.

They want to call SS an entitlement, then they need to know that i'm damned well entitled to a program into which i paid in good faith that intended to take care of some people a bit now, so that i'll be a little better off later.

I've been capped out for well over a decade, and i would not have objected to having to pay the tax on a little extra income if it meant that the system was more robust. Then these idiots wouldn't constantly be talking about finding ways to muck it up.

SSI is seen as an entitlement as people not able to work and in poverty and have not contributed enough or never contributed to SS thru payroll deductions to receive SSDI (disability) or regular SS earned benefits can receive SSI. SSI is more of a poverty safety net since no earned income or deductions ever have to be made.

on middle-class families and seniors.

NT

NT

if President Obama "changed", as you so blithely note in the first link; why, are you citing to the second?

He's even got a GOP Congress with which to do it.

Should be easy easy easy!

And that way, Hillary wouldn't have to GUT CUT SLASH Social Security.

When do you think Obama will work with Mitch to make it happen?

It'll be announced in the SOTU.

Bank on it.

Sid

NT

This thread shows that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x761367


When you view our friend's posts with that in mind, they make a lot more sense.


Sid

It was in 2011 note this sentence:

When you go into the voting booth with unrealistic expectations you are bound to be disappointed...

If you want to pitch me on "chess" or some bull, save your breath because it sure fooled me because in light of austerity committee after austerity committee and austerity gangs time and time again even when TeaPubliKlan cosponsors dropped he'd push and when one group failed he'd be right back leading the charge.
Then account for appointments not only to the austerity efforts but to power positions of corporate conservatives and the simplest answer such was his agenda.
He and Rmoney had nothing to debate, in an election season you don't want to back that loathsome crook into a corner with his most critical demographic?

That whole line of reasoning is naive fancy at best and bafflingly devoid of any logic other than what if any can be extracted from nearly religious and child like faith.

want to do away with SS and yet the Haters are working day and night against HRC

Edit to remove request for link, just saw post #3.

Democracy depends on equality for all. Democracy is a ideal that is inclusive. Democracy is made up numerous opinions and thoughts that works for the betterment of all of society. Its not selfish, its not greedy, it does not hurt its people. Everyone shares in prosperity.

Constructive agreement and disagreement is healthy for a Democracy. Sometimes the DU reflects that.

Thanks for keeping hope alive!

"fake populism", my ass.

Sid

- she is a Democrat and that is one of our mainstays.

Remember the CPI (Catfood Price Index?)

"We had to adjust the market basket a little. Hamburger is pretty much the same thing as steak, and when you come right down to it, a lot of old people really can't tell the difference between the better brands of pet food and hamburger, especially when they prepare it as meatloaf to stretch it out a little."


The Dems do not have a wonderful track record of maintaining ironclad defenses against things like the CPI.

always mean to follow through.

seems to legitimize it in a very unfortunate way. "Yeah, it's no big deal. Even Obama said so."

sympathies. K&R

calling it a tax increase on seniors and middle-class families.

Thank you.

People pay into SS and they have a right
to the payout after retirement.

Like Webster Tarpley, Alex Jones and the other RWNJs. Nice folks the CDS media are running with!

I sat there watching my TV and realized that Hillary didn't have the 1st clue about America's Working Class.

backed with action, I could find the pill easier to swallow.

I remember reading on DU that Obama was going to gut SS.
If he hasn't yet, I'm sure he will soon!