Policy-wise, I agree with her on most things but not everything. Which is good enough for me. What I really care about is not having a Republican president.

that's the correct answer...

... makes me think she has something going for her...

Policy-wise - I'm not sure I agree with her on MOST things (some I do, some I don't, some I'm not sure about her position) but there is also the issue that I agree with her on probably all things MORE than I agree with the Republicans.

She's a very lovely woman. As Obama said, she's likable enough.

It's about why I don't want her to be President (or a Supreme Court justice, etc.)

I hope she has a long and happy life outside politics.

I saw Bill on TV yesterday at the OKC bombing memorial. He looks like he could use a long stress free vacation.

well.

... due to their judgement being so horrible.

The other reason is because the amount of FUD on progressive sights that have come out against her...

Another indicator that she has something going.

Other than that, she's human and I think she has changed and grown since she was sos... we'll see...

So, she's not a progressive. Got it.

long before it was embraced by the majority in Congress.

Otherwise, it smells of straw.

Particularly Womans' Rights and LGBT Rights. I think she'll appoint good judges to the bench, in general. And she has a history as a fighter; she's been in the ring a few times. She'll be good on immigration. I can totally see why people might decide she's the best person for the job.

Time for new blood!


NO CLINTON NO BUSH!

... is getting really tiresome.

In order to not see another Clinton or Bush running for POTUS, one would have to accept that family members of former presidents are precluded from seeking the same office that every citizen has a right to seek.

Hillary has as much right to run for president as anyone else - as does Jeb Bush, or any other Clinton or Bush who might come along in future.

To hold that family members of ex-presidents are barred from running for that office is as un-American as it gets. If all citizens are equal, then all citizens have the same rights - and the right to seek the presidency is but one of them.

Realistically, the Clinton's and Bush's kids will have positions of power, if not becoming President. Washington is more of an inner circle than a dynasty.

The Bushes are a political dynasty. The Clintons are a power couple. Hugh Rodham is not Prescott Bush. Virginia Clinton is not Joe Kennedy.

See the difference? Calling the Clintons a dynasty is intellectually lazy. I don't think Chelsea has gotten into politics yet, has she? A little late in the game for her to start, dontcha think? I mean she's well into her thirties, a bit long in the tooth for a political scion, no?

Besides, maybe Bill doesn't become POTUS without a Hillary Clinton there through thick and thin. Maybe it's a Rodham dynasty, actually.

That's why I support her and did in 2008.

I may like the policies, but I'm not personally invested in any politician so there is no emotional tie. That's a classic Republican tactic -- fear, suspicion, hate -- and its no substitute for dispassionate critical thinking in evaluation the strengths and weaknesses of any politician.

If matters little to me that a politician might have a past record where they took a stance years ago that I disagreed with. My own POV has certainly evolved over time, so I expect that politicians are capable of evolving as well, and willing to acknowledge the lessons learned and adapt to meet today's changing times.

I'm not a single issue voter. I look at the whole package, adding more importance to the policies that most concern me, but never losing sight of the ultimate goal of electing a Democrat to the Presidency. It's still too early to make ANY decision, and until Clinton (or any other Dem) actually posts their official policy statements for the current election, my own counsel will I keep.

But the incessant whining and spamming by people who don't like her are pushing me in her direction. Still think the party would be better served by a robust primary season, however.

I don't hate her, but there is a lot I don't like about her. There are a few things I do like about her.

I don't like her explanation of her IRAQ war vote, which she still sticks to.
I don't like her corporatism. I don't really know where she stands economically.

I do like her yarbles. The woman will stand up and fight the GOP, which is something Obama refused to do on economic issues.
I do like her stance on women's issues.

hold her up for denigration. My State Primary is more than a year away, so it would be politically daft for me to pick any candidate no just to please those who want combat.
What some of her very active critics fail to respect or understand is that both she and Bill have earned a large amount of good will from some parts of the Democratic Party. Both of them stood up and paid a price for supporting LGBT people back in a time when literally no other national Democrats would even say 'gay' out loud. Before Bill even won the election, the Republican Party was slamming them as radical feminists and friends of the militant homosexual agenda. Both of those terms were used about them at the GOP convention 1992.

That does not mean I will support her. I might, might not. It does however mean that I will not abide her being bullied nor denigrated because back when others were doing that to me, she stood up and took some of that heat. So I will not assist in harming her, and I will defend her from lies, half truths and insults. Because she did the same for me.

DU's Macho Combat posters don't seem to get that. Of course they were not standing up for us in 92, but for some reason they think they have standing to influence others. 'I was a Reagan voter, I love the Pope, why won't you listen to me when I say Hillary is the devil you militant homosexual, you are so upset, so emotional, why don't you go watch some boxing like Jesus told you to'.
Yeah. They think we will trust bullies promoting ex Republicans more than those who have taken a hit or two along with us, back when others dared not speak our names.

If that cohort wanted my trust, they have had years to earn it. They never bothered to show so much as a shred of respect. So fuck them.

she's not a Republican.

She has the right approach to most social issues. She has enough experience with global and domestic issues to understand them. She's not as progressive in her economic beliefs as I am, but nobody who has the potential to be elected President does, as far as I can tell. She has broad support from likely voters and appears to have an excellent chance of being elected, instead of a Republican.

I am a Democrat. I vote for Democrats. If Hillary Clinton turns out to be the nominee of the Democratic Party, I will happily vote for her and encourage others to do the same. I've been doing that for Democratic candidates since 1960, when I was just a sophomore in high school. When Democrats are in office, they do better than Republicans across a wide spectrum of issues.

For the office of President, we get two choices who have a chance of winning. Just two. I vote for the Democrat, and hope enough people do the same to get that candidate elected.

Hillary Clinton is a Democrat. I like Democrats who win elections. She appears headed for the nomination, and I see no primary opponent yet who has a prayer of beating her. I think she can be elected in November, 2016. I like that OK. I get one vote in November. The Democratic candidate will get that vote. Absolutely.

There's a lot more to being a Democrat than just having a (D) next to your name.

nice try though.

For life, say he. Thanks for helping me prove my point!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zell_Miller

Hillary Clinton is not at all like Zell Miller.

nt

on that one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=191731

I'm of the opinion that certain policies she has advocated in the past render her unqualified to become POTUS and I would be very reluctant to vote for her because of that.

But hate? I don't waste time or energy doing that. And like? She's probably kind to children and dogs and that's a definite plus, but I don't know her personally so I don't feel qualified to say I like her.

primary and national election. Her competition for my vote appears to be Bernie Saunders and Martin O'Malley. I want to see more about fixing the problems with taxes for the 1%, the hiding of wealth off-shore, the stealing by banksters, moving to single-provider for healthcare. Stop asking for my love and just show me.

Supreme Court justices and civil rights and all that nonsense.

She has been under relentless attack since the early nineties and takes it all in stride. She is flawed and she knows it. Never stops learning. Hillary is a fierce advocate for women and the oppressed. Rush Limbaugh hates her and Gowdy has tried to Starr her twice now. She has a high level of compassion yet is one of the strongest fighters I have ever seen.

Although she is not my candidate, she does possess admirable qualities.

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She cares about the middles class (some here do not want you to believe that).

also she has a lovable smile & a great laugh.

Those are just some of the reasons I love Hillary!

I would love to meet her in person.

But I still don't trust her to put the people over corporate profits.

Past Senator of one of most populated states, Secretary of State, knows the world challenges and the leaders personally. Grew up middle class, earned her own money, fights for women's opportunities around the world. Doesn't need training or White House education. Gives back through a world foundation. Is funny, empathetic, and great mother, wife and friend. I don't see anyone, male or female on either side with more than any of that in one person. Judge the human, not her hair, clothes, etc.

As a person, I'm indifferent to her. As an ambitious politician I question her stances, her policies, and principles.

With all the shit that's been flung at her I'll give her credit for having a thick skin.

At this point I haven't committed to any candidate but will gladly vote for her if she's the nominee.

I think she has been a great warrior in social issues which I find important. In 2008, I supported her because I felt she had learned the correct lessons from the 1990, namely that the GOP can't be bargained with, they have to be beaten.

The fact that she may become the first woman president speaks to her long, long political experience, her tenacity to survive shitstorms, and as a political person to be reckoned with. It almost transcends gender. Her former position as SoS gives her viable contacts to facilitate improved foreign relations in delicate areas. She supports human rights, concentrates on women's rights and GBLT rights.

She was writing health care reform legislation in the early 90's--she fucking KNEW we were in a hot mess. She's never been just a First Lady, just another Secretary of State, just another Senater from New York--she's never been "just" anything. If she is our candidate, if she gets elected, I don't think she'll be 'just' the first woman president. I think she has the motivation, the experiance and the sheer courage to get shit done.

I think she did the job very well.

And no, I'm not going to answer the poison pill questions that I'm sure will follow this statement. So save them, folks.

I appreciate her dedication to women and children's issues. I like how tough she is against the rightwing.
I plan on voting for her in my primary. That being said I don't have strong feelings that no one else could be a better president. There are several dems I would not hesitate to support but it doesn't look like they're running.

and government assistance working at Eat a Bit Chicken, than a women has more balls per se than a man.

Never ever knew of a perfect candidate. Did know of candidates that were human and were more in tune to most USA American's issues. At this point in time, HRC gets my support!

she reminds me of my aunts, really, for whom I have lot of respect. I don't agree with everything she has done or every position she has taken, but if I were to have a discussion with her I imagine I would learn a few things. Like our president, I think she weighs all of any argument and considers consequences carefully before deciding a course of action.

Her backbone, she has one.