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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:50 AM Apr 2015

CNN: Obama approval level climbs into positive territory on positive perception of economy

Oh and besides the below, George W. Bush's approval rating at this point in his Presidency was 37% and heading south due to economic and foreign policy failures. Too bad so sad GOP.

CNN: President Barack Obama's approval rating is shifting back toward positive territory, as the public's take on the economy hits a new high mark for Obama's tenure, according to a new CNN/ORC poll.

For the first time since May of 2013, more Americans polled say they have a positive impression of how Obama is handling the presidency than a negative one: 48% approve of the way Obama is handling his job, while 47% disapprove.

While the share saying they approve is not significantly larger than the share disapproving, it's a notable shift in perceptions of Obama's presidency.

Obama's numbers are on the rise at the same time the public gives the economy the highest ratings of his presidency.

The poll finds 52% describe the U.S. economy as very or somewhat good, while 48% call it very or somewhat poor. That marks the first time since Obama took office that significantly more people describe the economy as "good" than "poor," and only the second time since then that a majority has described the nation's economy as "good."


http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/21/politics/cnn-poll-obama-economy-congress/
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CNN: Obama approval level climbs into positive territory on positive perception of economy (Original Post) stevenleser Apr 2015 OP
Great news! Thanks for sharing. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #1
You're welcome! stevenleser Apr 2015 #2
Hillary just said that the Economy has stalled! rusty fender Apr 2015 #3
What was her exact quote? Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #5
It's in the Latest Breaking News forum. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #18
I was unable to post a link to the story in my reply, but rusty fender Apr 2015 #19
CNN is only comparing Obama's outstanding polling numbers to past Obama..dare they compare to Bush? Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #4
I noted that too which is why I mentioned it in my post here and on Social media. Speaking of stevenleser Apr 2015 #15
and unemployment is at 5.7%, Bill Clinton presidency levels, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #6
This OP is about two opinion polls. And they are not far off from previous CNN poll results stevenleser Apr 2015 #7
exactly. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #8
In the sense that they seem to be correct and well reflect the state of the economy, yes. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #9
yes or no. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #10
I do not believe it is a bullshit number. I think it well describes the state and trajectory of the stevenleser Apr 2015 #11
LOL, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #13
I've committed to my opinion 100%. I said exactly what I believe about the unemployment numbers. stevenleser Apr 2015 #14
"several versions to choose from" NM_Birder Apr 2015 #21
Nope. Occam's razor. The truth is much simpler than your conspiracy theory. stevenleser Apr 2015 #22
You convinced me, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #23
Great news! William769 Apr 2015 #12
Perhaps if CNN didn't push the GOP talking point of Obama being the death of our economy Johonny Apr 2015 #16
That's 60 to 64% Approval ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #17
Agreed. 60-64% of folks to whom he has any chance at all of gaining their support. stevenleser Apr 2015 #20
 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
19. I was unable to post a link to the story in my reply, but
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:09 PM
Apr 2015

if you google Hilary Clinton: economy is stalled, the AP and many of the other reports of her statement will appear.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. I noted that too which is why I mentioned it in my post here and on Social media. Speaking of
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:45 PM
Apr 2015

comparisons to Bush, did you see this OP http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026544003 where 1000 people in each of 135 countries were asked to rate US leadership (and the leadership of several other countries)? I think the perception of the US from the last two Bush years and how that changed under Obama was pretty interesting.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
6. and unemployment is at 5.7%, Bill Clinton presidency levels,
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:46 PM
Apr 2015


So with Obama's popularity on the rise according to the CNN poll, and unemployment remaining down, I hope the untruth about people not being able to find a job will stop.

unless,............... a CNN poll and the unemployment numbers are not telling the real story.
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. This OP is about two opinion polls. And they are not far off from previous CNN poll results
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:07 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_ad.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job2.htm#CNN

and you can follow the results all the way back to February of 2009
 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
8. exactly.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:17 PM
Apr 2015

I think both the polls and the unemployment % are as truthful as they have ever been.
Don't you ?





 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
10. yes or no.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

You believe the unemployment % is a bullshit number, that does not reflect the number of people out of work.

yes or no.
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. I do not believe it is a bullshit number. I think it well describes the state and trajectory of the
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:57 PM
Apr 2015

economy and job market.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
13. LOL,
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:04 PM
Apr 2015

What a wonderful example of how not to commit to anything.

let me try it this way, how many MILLIONS of people of working age and ability, do you think are currently looking for paying employment in the current "trajectory" of the economy and job market today ?

Not exact, just a guess............... 20 million ? 30 million? 80 million ?
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
14. I've committed to my opinion 100%. I said exactly what I believe about the unemployment numbers.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

There are several versions to choose from and in addition to the official U3 number, I use all of U1 through U6 to inform my opinion and think all measurements are valuable for different reasons. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

Look, if you think you have special knowledge of the economy and jobs, why even ask me? Just post your opinion. Maybe some think tank will hire you if you have some kind of special ability when it comes to jobs and the numbers about them.

If you feel so right about it, why do you need to discuss it with me?

Personally, I don't think you do have special knowledge. I think you want to think you do.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
21. "several versions to choose from"
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:48 AM
Apr 2015


You nailed it. whichever version fits the narrative. Never admit to an actual opinion, the actual number of people out of work is irrelevant, all that IS relevant is the perception of the narrative.
the actual people unemployed are not what matters,.............. the perception that can be sold is the only thing that matters.
Just like the CNN poll, only the perception matters.


Don't get me wrong, I'm doing just fine,...... my guess is you are as well. So in the grand scheme of things, why would you or I even care how many other people are actually out of work,.... right ? So long as the narrative can be sold.
statistically speaking I can prove EVERYBODY is doing fine too.

Yeah politics.





 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
22. Nope. Occam's razor. The truth is much simpler than your conspiracy theory.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:55 AM
Apr 2015

U1-U6 are provided because they analyze the unemployment situation different ways and provide different slices of where the employment situation is for different folks.

This is useful for economists providing information to a Presidential administration on how policy should be adjusted to fit the situation.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
23. You convinced me,
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:25 PM
Apr 2015

The actual number of people,....sorry "folks" out of work is irrelevant. manipulated percentages are what matters, in order to push policy. What good could come of the ACTUAL number of people out of work being factored in?

The "situation" cannot be low unemployment, .....and yet record high numbers of government assistance recipients.
Occam's razor ? really ?

You win,....... I wish all those people ...sorry "folks", ....lying about being out of work would just shut up and realize that the unemployment number is used to push policy, they are actually just fine, "Occam's razor" provides to simplest solution.........the numbers are useful for policy, nobody really gives a shit about the people,...damn sorry, "folks" the number supposedly represents.

I get it, if I say "folks" it gives the illusion I care about actual unemployed people,...sorry "folks".

"Folks",.... like a vision of a red and white checkerboard picnic table cloth, sunshine and kitchen table gatherings, you're right, I do feel better. And now that I understand what the unemployment % is really meant to convey, I realize that I'm not really supposed to care how many people, damn, "folks" are financially screwed because of long term unemployment. They just don't matter regarding policy.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
16. Perhaps if CNN didn't push the GOP talking point of Obama being the death of our economy
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:48 PM
Apr 2015

for the past 6 years we wouldn't have a total GOP lead congress and something positive could be done to help keep the economy strong. Instead they lied to the American people for 6 years, but Obama succeeded anyways.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
17. That's 60 to 64% Approval
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:00 PM
Apr 2015

Let's face it, between 20 and 25% of americans would disapprove of him if their Jesus came down, played basketball with Obama, and then did a press conference to say he really approves of him.

You know there is that whole complexion problem.

So, 48% approval from the 75 to 80% who actually are rating him on the issues, is really 60 to 64%.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. Agreed. 60-64% of folks to whom he has any chance at all of gaining their support.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 09:08 AM
Apr 2015

And that number is rising.

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