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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:51 AM Apr 2015

Woman Pointing Smartphone Camera at Police Has It Snatched and Smashed

Here’s a video that’s causing an uproar among those who care about photographers’ rights. It’s a 53-second clip recorded on on April 19th that shows an encounter one woman had with police officers on a residential sidewalk in South Gate, California.
http://petapixel.com/2015/04/21/woman-pointing-smartphone-camera-at-police-has-it-snatched-and-smashed/



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Woman Pointing Smartphone Camera at Police Has It Snatched and Smashed (Original Post) workinclasszero Apr 2015 OP
Looks like there is another polite intelligent gentleman that is going to get an unscheduled... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #1
Probably true except for the intelligent/gentleman part. Which one of us, when we break the law erronis Apr 2015 #74
Polite Intelligent Gentleman truebrit71 Apr 2015 #93
Asshole cop just got his ass in big trouble snooper2 Apr 2015 #2
Nah! He was in fear of his life! joshdawg Apr 2015 #106
Would it be considered an assault workinclasszero Apr 2015 #3
not just assault but armed assault. it should be. but it won't. unblock Apr 2015 #10
Ok right, armed assault workinclasszero Apr 2015 #14
Armed robbery ? Bonx Apr 2015 #63
I dunno workinclasszero Apr 2015 #65
I'm suprised he didnt beat her ass when she pulled away 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #4
The police state is here workinclasszero Apr 2015 #7
And for some reason Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #24
IKR? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #29
Agreed, Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #31
Everybody hates a militia. Til you want 'em for your dirty work. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #42
When was the last time the hated militia ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #60
Actually, if things are as bad as the poster I was responding to thinks... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #68
Very good point! truebluegreen Apr 2015 #55
Two words. Holy. Crap. libdem4life Apr 2015 #12
I think his other sins were, dark skin, curly hair tied up and probably driving a nice car. libdem4life Apr 2015 #16
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #71
I think they are about to drop all pretense and go full police state. zeemike Apr 2015 #77
I think so, too. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #88
She's white awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #95
Don't be so sure about that 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #96
So far, the only person I've seen who has made the claim RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #107
You either live in a cave isolated from social media, news, etc or... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #113
BlackLivesMatter means black lives matter. RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #114
That's PRIVATE PROPERTY !!!111!! Octafish Apr 2015 #5
It was capturing protected information about policing tactics. HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #13
Is blend. Absolutely is blending. Octafish Apr 2015 #35
Yes, I know. And where do you think they learned that? HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #40
Speaking of nooses, Octafish, the noose is becoming a popular icon with teens and twenty- Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #54
if anyone but a cop did that -- let's say a black man just to make the point obvious -- unblock Apr 2015 #6
A cell phone taking images of a cell phone. That's two cellphone videos. libdem4life Apr 2015 #8
You know what..thats a great plan workinclasszero Apr 2015 #9
That's the idea...You're on Citizen Candid Camera. We pay your salary. libdem4life Apr 2015 #20
Damn right /nt workinclasszero Apr 2015 #21
Yes, and they must all use the automatic upload to the net function! nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #26
Awesome! workinclasszero Apr 2015 #33
Not a bad idea. Jerry442 Apr 2015 #112
DUzy! CrispyQ Apr 2015 #102
What a thug. I hope he pays the consequences (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #11
when has that happened with our resident thugs? niyad Apr 2015 #27
We need them to hurry up with the wearables for the general public. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #15
Yes! workinclasszero Apr 2015 #17
Second that motion. libdem4life Apr 2015 #22
Already here damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #28
Why can't you say what it is? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #32
Send me a message and I'll tell you what and where to get it damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #37
I'd like to know too. cwydro Apr 2015 #98
Thats awesome workinclasszero Apr 2015 #39
Most welcome damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #48
many years ago lapfog_1 Apr 2015 #45
Battery-backed-up CMOS RAM would allow a bazillion writes. NT Jerry442 Apr 2015 #111
I got one of these hobbit709 Apr 2015 #53
What's the point of doing something like that? damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #18
Those guys are cops? EL34x4 Apr 2015 #19
It's highly likely that's what they used to be. Saves local police training budgets. They are also libdem4life Apr 2015 #23
Thats our occupying militarized police forces at work workinclasszero Apr 2015 #46
This is from 2008, but it's really fascinating. CrispyQ Apr 2015 #103
thank goodness for the brave person who filmed the whole thing. niyad Apr 2015 #25
I'm sure SwankyXomb Apr 2015 #30
Does anyone know what the conversation was? oneshooter Apr 2015 #34
My first thought. What was said and why the second camera? Paper Roses Apr 2015 #90
It looked like the filming occured from across the street, or at least some distance away. CrispyQ Apr 2015 #105
It would be interesting to know what was being said Mariana Apr 2015 #91
Another Name to Knit into a Scarf! imthevicar Apr 2015 #36
If someone smashes your phone, don't leave it for dead. The memory card is probably still readable. corkhead Apr 2015 #38
Recording police as they work is a 1st Amendment right Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #41
Another bully skinhead, PDs just hire nazis now? Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #43
Where are all the "good cops" when this shit happens? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #47
They're forced to resign if they stand up against police brutality. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #56
True enough workinclasszero Apr 2015 #57
That only works if a tiny minority stand up Mariana Apr 2015 #84
Good sorely needs to become fashionable. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #94
Cheering on their colleagues Mariana Apr 2015 #80
Cop Block Apps AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #44
I would be astonished if this does not become the new normal. djean111 Apr 2015 #49
I'd like to know what happens to that cop. Jim__ Apr 2015 #50
Aaannnd off he goes to work for CCA. Goodbye, fair sir. You were an Oinker of the worst breed. byronius Apr 2015 #51
What he did was uncalled for definitely! Catherine Vincent Apr 2015 #52
You know what? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #66
ding ding ding.... mike_c Apr 2015 #83
Excellent point. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #99
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Apr 2015 #108
I am on camera the second I step in the door workinclasszero Apr 2015 #109
Oregon legislature is working on this, to insure people's rights to film police 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #58
These are not local cops, but fed thugs. The US Marshals are now investigating. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #59
Thanks for that info workinclasszero Apr 2015 #64
That skinhead is seizing personal property with brute force. lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #69
Looking like the South Gate, California police department ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #61
South Gate cops are off the hook VScott Apr 2015 #82
it should be a crime for the police to take anyone's camera away samsingh Apr 2015 #62
it is a crime Fred Drum Apr 2015 #87
So was that assault and battery and the use of excessive force? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #67
That was stupid on the part of the police officer Gothmog Apr 2015 #70
Roided up skinhead pig Tom Ripley Apr 2015 #73
That would be my guess. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #100
II don't know why law enforcement agencies are not more diligent about... Tom Ripley Apr 2015 #101
Huff post reports U.S. Marshal snatch & grabbed her camera. Thank god some one filmed mulsh Apr 2015 #72
Thanks for the link workinclasszero Apr 2015 #75
First recorded 2-cell phone Citizen Sting, Always need a back up, they say. Oh wait, that's the libdem4life Apr 2015 #76
Yes it always pays to have back up eh? :) workinclasszero Apr 2015 #79
Looks like strong arm robbery to me. He should fired and brought up on charges. n/t iscooterliberally Apr 2015 #78
The cop should also be brought up on Federal charges of workinclasszero Apr 2015 #81
That's a first amendment violation. She needs to contact the ACLU. herding cats Apr 2015 #85
Man I hope that lady gets this info workinclasszero Apr 2015 #92
The Age of Privacy is Dead and Gone....... Cryptoad Apr 2015 #86
I know :( 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #97
I hope they let the police make their false account of the encounter before revealing Marr Apr 2015 #89
I've reached out to her to see if she will talk with me about it. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #104
Good. Thank you. We need a citizen's cell phone neighborhood watch...Maybe team libdem4life Apr 2015 #110
"Know your rights. All three of them." nt raouldukelives Apr 2015 #115
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
1. Looks like there is another polite intelligent gentleman that is going to get an unscheduled...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:52 AM
Apr 2015

...paid vacation coming up real soon...

erronis

(15,257 posts)
74. Probably true except for the intelligent/gentleman part. Which one of us, when we break the law
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:11 PM
Apr 2015

Get a paid leave of absence, a lock-down on any information sharing, a police union that will go to any lengths to silence opposition, a states AG that will sit on the complaints, FOIA requests that will get misplaced, etc., etc.

The corruption runs throughout the police forces and their supposed superiors in the local/state/federal governments.

Sure, there are a few good apples, but they don't stay around for very long.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. Would it be considered an assault
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:02 PM
Apr 2015

by that cop to do something like that?

On top of the destruction of her personal property and the fact that citizens have the right to film cops as far as I know.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
10. not just assault but armed assault. it should be. but it won't.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:11 PM
Apr 2015

not unless the victim turns out to be a senator or a senator's wife or something.

even still, the worst the cop is likely to face is getting fired. i wouldn't hold my breath for anything worse than a week or two with pay during the investigation followed maybe, maybe by a week without pay.

then right back to protecting and serving to prevent the bla--, er, i mean bad guys from doing things like assaulting women and taking their iphones and smashing them to pieces!

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
4. I'm suprised he didnt beat her ass when she pulled away
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:02 PM
Apr 2015

That was resisting an officer performing his official duties!



but hey... it could have been a gun (Fast forward to 3:40 in the video below)



You just know they're going to start shooting people for merely video recording them because "it could be a gun"

What a fucked up country we live in.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. The police state is here
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:05 PM
Apr 2015

rolling in on tanks and full military gear.

The founding fathers must be spinning in their graves.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
29. IKR?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:36 PM
Apr 2015

Well the gun lobby/NRA/MIC make $$$ on all of it.

The thug cops and the people they scare to death buy from the same assholes.

The worse things get in this country, the more $$$ the gun lobby makes!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
31. Agreed,
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:46 PM
Apr 2015

but it undermines the whole ammosexual argument about needing guns to protect us from the police state. The police state is here, and not a shot was fired by the "freedom militias".

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
60. When was the last time the hated militia ...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:29 PM
Apr 2015

was called upon to do the dirty work ... at the bundy ranch?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
68. Actually, if things are as bad as the poster I was responding to thinks...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:54 PM
Apr 2015

then why doesn't he/she act, instead of vicariously, sorta, wanna anotha group to do it? But, this could lead to another "gunz" discussion in GD.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
55. Very good point!
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

It is amusing to note that we hear very little these days about gunz being necessary to stop tyranny, like a police state or a certain sneaky Kenyan Muslin socialist Manchurian candidate who was fraudulently elected Twice. No, apparently, gunz are all about personal safety now or, at the most, someday being a defense against tyranny.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
77. I think they are about to drop all pretense and go full police state.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:22 PM
Apr 2015

And those cops are chomping at the bit for it to happen.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
88. I think so, too.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:50 PM
Apr 2015

Sometimes I think they're trying to make us riot, just so they can come in and restore 'order.' They certainly don't seem to be learning from their mistakes, just getting more brazen.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
113. You either live in a cave isolated from social media, news, etc or...
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:53 AM
Apr 2015

you're grasping at straws or...

maybe I got the definition of #BlackLivesMatter wrong maybe and it actually means Hispanic lives matter, Native American lives matter, Asian lives matter, White lives matter, Indian lives matter

So which is it?

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
114. BlackLivesMatter means black lives matter.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

Absolutely nothing about the statement "black lives matter" indicates that other lives do not also matter. If anyone meant "Only black lives matter", that's what they would say.

Who exactly is grasping at straws? Yeah, I'd say you got the definition wrong.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. It was capturing protected information about policing tactics.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:15 PM
Apr 2015

According to both the GRU and old KGB handbooks, destruction of equipment that threatens state secrets is OK.

What?? No!

OF COURSE Russian handbooks are relevant where the heck do you think these models of policing come from?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. Is blend. Absolutely is blending.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:49 PM
Apr 2015

FBI and CIA too is long claiming to protect sources and methods in court to help not convict their criminals and to maximum prosecute whistleblowns. Big Time Ween-Ween.

Authoritarianism is a noose enclosing the neck of Democracy. Its tool is capital.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
40. Yes, I know. And where do you think they learned that?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:56 PM
Apr 2015

As the Warsaw pact became unglued LOTS of higly placed conservative thinking persons immigrated to the US and took up positions advising our government

I really wasn't kidding when I said this is out of the GRU and KGB manuals so much as using them as a surrogate because I don't really know the names of the eastern thinkers who trained eastern nation's homeland security forces and originated this shit.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
54. Speaking of nooses, Octafish, the noose is becoming a popular icon with teens and twenty-
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:23 PM
Apr 2015

something musical bands merchandise.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
6. if anyone but a cop did that -- let's say a black man just to make the point obvious --
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:03 PM
Apr 2015

they would be charged with something like armed assault, armed robbery, and destruction of private property.

that is, if they weren't shot 87 times on the spot....

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. A cell phone taking images of a cell phone. That's two cellphone videos.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:06 PM
Apr 2015

The irony of it all...guess he thought he'd solved that irritating citizen's nosy phone. I think it's going to become a trend. One sees a police car, out come the cell phones...to Serve and Protect. The cell phones, that is.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. You know what..thats a great plan
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:09 PM
Apr 2015

If 20 people whipped out their cellphone cams and started recording this nazi police crap quite a few will make it to the public domain

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
112. Not a bad idea.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:10 AM
Apr 2015

With a big honking decal that tells would-be assailants of any kind that the video won't go away, even if the camera does.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
15. We need them to hurry up with the wearables for the general public.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:16 PM
Apr 2015

So it's not obvious when you're filming cops, you just flip a switch or somesuch, then watch them, and the camera records whatever you're looking at. If anyone can be filming, they'll need to assume they're always on camera, even if no one is holding up a camera phone.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
28. Already here
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:30 PM
Apr 2015

I have one and it's always with me. I can't say what it is but it's not a phone and is wearable.

Quality of the video it takes is excellent. I love it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
98. I'd like to know too.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:03 PM
Apr 2015

That's a very smart idea.

If the cops won't wear them, then the citizens will.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
39. Thats awesome
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:55 PM
Apr 2015

And I seriously thank you for doing a public service to protect the rights of your fellow citizens!

lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
45. many years ago
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:10 PM
Apr 2015

when I was doing work for a company that provided cop dashboard cameras, I came up with an idea to have the camera on all the time... no reason not to really... and then when the "trigger" happened, we would save something like 30 seconds prior to the trigger and lasting until the "off" button. Basically saving that data, and discarding the rest as the camera operates.

The only drawback is that the flash device (typical bit of "memory" that records video) only allows so many "writes" (recordings) before the flash device wears out.

In police cars, numerous things can trigger the dash cam to come on (or dome cam)... turning on the emergency lights, removing a shotgun from the holder, opening the back doors, body microphone button, dash button.

For a "cap cam" or "purse cam" or google glass, a simple on/off button is probably sufficient.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
18. What's the point of doing something like that?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:18 PM
Apr 2015

It just makes cops like that look like a complete ass. This guy is one of those who should not be walking around with a weapon around the public.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
23. It's highly likely that's what they used to be. Saves local police training budgets. They are also
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:26 PM
Apr 2015

used to killing anything that moves and being rewarded for it.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
46. Thats our occupying militarized police forces at work
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:11 PM
Apr 2015

Probably on a dangerous pot bust of a sixteen year old or something.

You know those violent stoners take a full goon squad with the latest military weapons to take down, right?

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
103. This is from 2008, but it's really fascinating.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:08 AM
Apr 2015
Police Forces Dressing In Black To "Instill Fear" In Citizens
Psychological influence of uniforms cited by authorities

http://infowars.net/articles/april2008/280408uniform.htm

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Monday, April 28, 2008

snip...

Even more interesting are further findings that suggest both police officers and citizens are more likely to engage each other violently when the authorities come dressed in black:

The experiment with the colored jerseys also suggests that police officers in dark uniforms subconsciously may act more aggressively; therefore, departments should consider modifying police uniform colors.

The police uniform also may influence the safety level of the officer who wears it. Dark colored uniforms may elicit subconscious negative feelings from citizens, who may perceive the officer as aggressive, and subsequently, encourage them to consider violent action when confronted by the police.


The article is not very long & is very interesting.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
90. My first thought. What was said and why the second camera?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

My opinion only but it seems to me that the police...in this instance, might have been baited. OK, there is no excuse for the destruction but why do we not hear any of the conversation? It seems too convenient for me.
I do believe that the police, in many instances, are out of control but this one does not sit well with me.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
105. It looked like the filming occured from across the street, or at least some distance away.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:16 AM
Apr 2015

It could have even been filmed through a window, so there may not have been sound. The woman was not interfering with the cops activity & did not appear to be taunting them, only filming them. There was no excuse for what this officer did.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
84. That only works if a tiny minority stand up
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:31 PM
Apr 2015

while the rest stand behind and support the criminal cops. If the good cops were a majority, they'd be forcing out the bad ones, not the other way around.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
44. Cop Block Apps
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:06 PM
Apr 2015

There are apps for smart phones that upload video to a cloud account in real time. If the cops grab and smash the phone, it is too late, the video is already stored in an account that only the filmer can access.

http://www.copblock.org/apps/

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
49. I would be astonished if this does not become the new normal.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:19 PM
Apr 2015

Would also be surprised if there was not some way to jam recordings or whatever.
The body cams and dash cams already have a way of "malfunctioning" - filming cops is not going to change any police behavior except for enhanced efforts to block or evade or destroy recording.

Perhaps recordings of police will be deemed inadmissible in court, as they obviously don't care if we see this stuff.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
52. What he did was uncalled for definitely!
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:22 PM
Apr 2015

But...

I can sympathize with cops not wanting a camera pointing at them as they perform their job duties. I put myself in their shoes and wouldn't want some annoying person pointing a camera at my every move all the time, most likely because I am doing what I am paid to do. Of course if it was wrongdoing, I would get upset like that idiot did in the video.

Thankfully, there were folks out there recording police. If some of the cops were corrupt and/or murderers, then this wouldn't have to be done.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
66. You know what?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:41 PM
Apr 2015

Every person in america that works in a gas station or store is on camera every second they are at work except the bathroom.

Why should armed police that can take your life away in an instant get a pass on being filmed at work when a store clerk making 7.50 an hour at McDonalds flippin burgers is on camera all day, every day?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
109. I am on camera the second I step in the door
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:30 AM
Apr 2015

where I work till I step out to go home. 40 hours a week, all year, every year.

I'm not armed, I'n not sanctioned by the local,state,federal government to take a persons life either.

Yet I am filmed all day long!

How in the hell do these cops think they are not subject to the same treatment that millions of american workers get everyday!?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
58. Oregon legislature is working on this, to insure people's rights to film police
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:27 PM
Apr 2015

provided they aren't "interfering" with the police ability to do their jobs. Problem is, if a killer-cop decides "his job" is murdering a citizen under false pretenses, at that point the camera pointed at the murder becomes "interfering" in the cops mind.


SALEM, Ore. (AP) - The Oregon Legislature is looking to make sure it's legal for citizens to film the police, as long as they don't interfere.

The House Judiciary Committee approved a bill Monday that says merely videotaping a police, parole or probation officer does not constitute the crime of interfering with the official's duties.

The committee's 7-2 vote sends the measure to the full House.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which supports the bill, says Oregon law isn't clear on the legality of videotaping police officers. The ACLU says people who document arrests and the use of force shouldn't be subject to arrest and prosecution for eavesdropping or interfering with law enforcement.

Kimberly McCullough, an ACLU lobbyist, pointed to the video of a white South Carolina police officer shooting Walter Scott, a black man running from the officer.

"If something like that is criminal in Oregon, then people are going to be afraid to take those kinds of videos, and we don't want that sort of speech to get chilled," McCullough said.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Oregon-bill-would-prohibit-charges-for-filming-police-300740641.html

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
69. That skinhead is seizing personal property with brute force.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:59 PM
Apr 2015



He won't have a leg to stand on if there's a fair trial.

And if I was her I would insist on a jury trial.

 

VScott

(774 posts)
82. South Gate cops are off the hook
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:29 PM
Apr 2015

Not only that, they're throwing the feds under the bus...


South Gate police officials distanced themselves from the incident, saying they were aware of the operation within their city but were not involved.

“None of the people in that video are South Gate cops,” said Capt. Darren Arakawa. “We have to clean our hands of it, I don’t know what to say.”

South Gate commanders have been telling their officers to get used to being recorded, Arakawa said. As a result of recent use of force incidents in Oklahoma, New York, South Carolina and Southern California, use of force and the conduct of law enforcement officers is under significant scrutiny nationwide.

South Gate police found countless cellphone cameras trained on them at a recent memorial for a man killed during an officer-involved shooting, Arakawa said.

“We tell people, ‘Just get used to it. It’s not that big a deal if you’re not doing anything,'” he said.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
67. So was that assault and battery and the use of excessive force?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:53 PM
Apr 2015

Was it? Or was the woman interfering with the work of the officer? Let a jury decide.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
101. II don't know why law enforcement agencies are not more diligent about...
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 09:03 AM
Apr 2015

prohibiting their use by the no-necked liabilities in their ranks.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
75. Thanks for the link
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:14 PM
Apr 2015

From that huff post story: Intentionally blocking or ordering an individual to cease recording constitutes a First Amendment violation.

?2

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
76. First recorded 2-cell phone Citizen Sting, Always need a back up, they say. Oh wait, that's the
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:20 PM
Apr 2015

cops. This is about to get very interesting. New Rule ... See police activity, grab your cell phone. Warning: do not tell them you are filming them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
79. Yes it always pays to have back up eh? :)
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:24 PM
Apr 2015

I think this woman was just trying to play by the rules. She had every right to film them and she wasn't in the way from what I can see.

If workers in American can be on camera 24/7/365, so can the roid raging militarized cops who are authorized to take your life away in an instant!

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
85. That's a first amendment violation. She needs to contact the ACLU.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:38 PM
Apr 2015

She should also contact the DOJ. Both have stood up for a citizens right to record the police.

ETA a pertinent link.

DOJ's Public Statements Provide a Road Map for Citizens to Sue in Cop Recording Case.
http://www.dmlp.org/blog/2012/dojs-public-statements-provide-road-map-citizens-sue-cop-recording-cases

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
97. I know :(
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015
even for the cops too!


If they would just stop beating the shit out of people, shooting unarmed people, planting evidence, committing rapes, shooting handcuffed people, lying on police reports, etc, etc no one would feel the need to video record everything they do.

Its amazing how Firefighters, Medics and even people who deliver Money to business and banks can perform their duties without the citizens even batting an eye.

These porkers created this situation now they have to live with it. You give up the right to privacy when you bully people and even kill them when they're unarmed and running away.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
89. I hope they let the police make their false account of the encounter before revealing
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:52 PM
Apr 2015

the third party video.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
110. Good. Thank you. We need a citizen's cell phone neighborhood watch...Maybe team
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:06 AM
Apr 2015

up with an organization that's already nationwide. I'm sure there are PTAs in some areas that would be helpful, perhaps. Slogan: We're watching you watch us.

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