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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:26 PM Apr 2015

Can Hillary Mix the Best of Bill and Barack?

Ron Brownstein: “As president, Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which authorized states to deny recognition to same-sex marriages performed in other states. As a presidential candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton launched her 2016 campaign on Sunday with a video that featured two gay men excitedly planning their own same-sex wedding.”

“That contrast captures a profound shift since Bill Clinton’s presidency—not only in American social attitudes, but also in the nature of his party’s electoral coalition. If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic presidential nomination, she will inherit from President Obama a very different coalition than the one that elected her husband. Her great opportunity is to meld the different support that each man mobilized. Her great risk is that she won’t be able to re-create quite as much of either man’s coalition as she needs to win.”

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Can Hillary Mix the Best of Bill and Barack? (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP

In English for real people doesn't that ask "Can Hillary represent the democratic right?" HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #1

Yeah, he said that in contrast to the fucking teabagger loons snooper2 Apr 2015 #5

Well, I think we've got to take him at his word and consider what that means... HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #6

What the heck?? madamesilverspurs Apr 2015 #2

Yes!!!!!! That is exactly what the thought behind the headline is. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #3

So are we able to contrast what a Hillary POTUS would look like against any previous POTUS snooper2 Apr 2015 #7

Will she add Goldman Sachs to the mix? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #4

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

1. In English for real people doesn't that ask "Can Hillary represent the democratic right?"

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:32 PM

Apr 2015

I mean Obama said he looked like a 1980's republican. And we know what Bill thought of unions.

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

5. Yeah, he said that in contrast to the fucking teabagger loons

Reply to HereSince1628 (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:02 PM

Apr 2015

which makes sense

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

6. Well, I think we've got to take him at his word and consider what that means...

Reply to snooper2 (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:07 PM

Apr 2015

And I think it means that like 1980's republicans, UNIONS are not worth spending political capital on

Even if you don't accept that, it still places Obama to the right of traditional democrats, who aren't the democratic left, but who are the democratic center.

I know that "center" thing is problematic because it is relative to the viewers persepective, but when people say H> is a centrist they mean on the Liberal vs Conservative axis not the dem left- dem center- dem right axis.

So the question is really about whether or not H> can represent the democratic rightwing. The answer to that is clearly YES!

madamesilverspurs

(15,803 posts)

2. What the heck??

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:49 PM

Apr 2015

Upfront, I haven't read the article.

But the immediate thought on reading the title of the OP was: Well doesn't that just put Hillary right where women belong, in the kitchen mixing ingredients for a new batch of cookies!

Sheesh.