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Almost everyone recognizes that quote as part of the oath that every U.S. federal employee (elected or otherwise) swears to upon taking office. To add a bit more, the oath reads:
to protect and defend the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic
So heres are my questions:
1. Can one consider the Republican Party, as well as those who own them and their vast media empire, a threat to the United States of America?
2. Can anyone make the case that, through their words and actions, the GOP is not attempting to turn the U.S. into a fascist country?
3. Can any rational person really believe that the Republican agenda is not pure poison to what many of us believe the United States was meant to be?
4. And if the foregoing three points are true, could one consider the Republican Party (and their owners) to be domestic enemies of the U.S.?
These comments may seem over the top to some, and completely whacked out to others. So show me the error in my thinking. Show me where Im wrong.
(And one more thought. Many Democratic politicians are as guilty of what Ive stated as is the GOP. Theyre just not as well organized.)
hack89
(39,171 posts)and they will answer yes to every question.
If you are looking for some universal truth I think you are out of luck. You are just another partisan shit slinger thriving on the chaos.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Let me state exactly what I'm saying so there's no doubt about it.
I am saying that the Republican Party, as it exists today, is a domestic enemy of the United States.
Clear enough "shit slinging" for you?
hack89
(39,171 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)And to continue that the oath states "... to protect and defend the United States of America, against all enemies, foreign and domestic ..."
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Declaring an opposing political party "enemies of the US" while simultaneously decrying fascism.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)those we espouse and tell me there's no difference.
Irony? Give me some specifics.
Igel
(35,309 posts)Heck, it often has been changed not by any formal means but by virtue of just reinterpreting in a new way what used to be clearly understood to mean something completely different. In fact, a Constitutional Convention would be even more a "domestic" enemy against the current constitution because it would seek to rewrite it.
As for the rest--one has to be careful. At time we want a persnickety, 22-point definition of fascism. At other times, we want a off-the-cuff squishy definition of fascism. Even when we insist on this long string of criteria, we play fast and free. Mussolini was fascist and was "nationalist"; then they post a picture of a (R) with a flag and say, "See--jingoistic." As though the two are comparable in degree.
Take Russia. Many defend it. But the degree of militarism you see routinely in most media sources, in government sources, in holidays, etc., etc. far exceeds US militarism. It's more restrictive. It hypes culture and wants to expand and ensure a revival of the traditional religious culture as government policy. It is where a small percentage of (R) want the US to go--yet many say that the US is more fascist than Russia. China's in the same boat, with government control over enterprise and a merging of the two to an extent in official policy and in practical application that makes the US look like beginners. The US is where France was decades ago. Yet France was liberal and the US is fascist. It's what you want to see and want to say that matters, first and foremost; the facts can be found.
Now consider your third point. No, I think no reasonable person would think that the (R) party isn't poison to what many think was the US' purpose. Then again, it's honey to what many think the US' purpose was. "Many" is far from "almost everybody" or even "a majority." It can be true and the rest of your proposition be false simply because it's unimportant.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Cause I sure as heck did not swear in at the VA. And I'm pretty sure my mother, brother and aunt did not swear that when going to work at the post office. Nor my sister, her husband, another aunt and probably a few more I'm not aware of when they went to work at the Navy base.