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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:26 PM Apr 2015

BTW, this NO dynasty meme, NO Bush OR Clinton meme, only works on the left.

Common sense dictates WAY WAY more so called democrats are more likely NOT to vote for a Clinton due to this meme than so called republicans will NOT vote for the republican candidate, NO MATTER who it is, especially if Hillary is on the ballot.


Translation, this meme guarantees less votes for Hillary and practically no less votes for whoever the republican is.


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BTW, this NO dynasty meme, NO Bush OR Clinton meme, only works on the left. (Original Post) NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 OP
Clinton v. Bush would be the dullest presidential election in the past 50 years tularetom Apr 2015 #1
I think you're flat wrong judging from what I read on the right blogosphere cali Apr 2015 #2
Repeat: Two people do not make a dynasty. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #3
The other MADDENING thing about this meme is dynasty NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #4
Exactly. But good luck getting some to even google the meaning of the word. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #5
Someone told there IS no such thing as a self-made person. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #20
Not completely, so yes that phrase is incorrect to use for any American who has NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #22
Just rich friends. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #24
Is that how they educated themselves? Began their careers? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #25
nope, talk to people outside of the bubble and it's across the board- snooper2 Apr 2015 #6
Except that on election day people on the right will absolutely vote AGAINST whoever the Dem is NO NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #7
So what? People on the left will vote against any Republican. Throd Apr 2015 #8
Uh, not according to DU where we constantly hear that Hillary is not an option. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #17
Prevent further Harm? LOL, this is a primary battle Hillary hasn't been anointed, yet- snooper2 Apr 2015 #9
the BUBBLE LOLOLOLOL NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #23
Conservatives really hate Jeb Prism Apr 2015 #10
My dad is a Republican. He hates dynasty politics and wants the Bushes to go away. Throd Apr 2015 #11
When in the polling booth and it is ANY con vs the hated Hillary, they vote for the con NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #18
It's more about enthusiasm gaps Prism Apr 2015 #32
I always vote. I always vote against Republicans. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #12
Not much thought behind this one. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #13
I started my vegetable garden this weekend Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #14
Most interesting post Rolando Apr 2015 #31
No more Clintons forthemiddle Apr 2015 #15
Polling I saw indicated Clinton's family ties helped her with voters. Bush not so much. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #16
It's not a meme it's a fact and IMO a mockery of ideal of democracy whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #19
I never said it was no big deal, I said it is bullshit in the first place. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #21
our side seems to love losing samsingh Apr 2015 #26
Isnt there a poll somewhere here today showing Hillary crushing all cons? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #27
indeed there was - and the weakness in our party is that instead of banding behind her samsingh Apr 2015 #30
Dynasty or not bigwillq Apr 2015 #28
In a perfect world, you bet. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #29

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. Clinton v. Bush would be the dullest presidential election in the past 50 years
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

Clinton won't come out swinging against Jeb. She and Bill wouldn't be getting anymore invitations to Kennebunkport if she did.

The relationship between these two clans seems just a bit too cozy.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. I think you're flat wrong judging from what I read on the right blogosphere
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

and HRC is far, far more popular among dems than Jeb is with rethugs.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
4. The other MADDENING thing about this meme is dynasty
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:36 PM
Apr 2015

Implies riches and power, neither of which did either Clinton have until they SELF MADE them.

Bush's would be mowing lawns were it not for grampa being the crime syndicate he was

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
5. Exactly. But good luck getting some to even google the meaning of the word.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:41 PM
Apr 2015

Clinton's are self made people.
Bush's go all the way back to financing Adolph Hitler.
They are rotten to the core.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
22. Not completely, so yes that phrase is incorrect to use for any American who has
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:00 PM
Apr 2015

untold assistance from the system and infrastructure.

Having said that, the Clinton's are an amazing success story with ZERO help from rich relatives.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
25. Is that how they educated themselves? Began their careers?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

Wow, the lengths some

will go to defame successful Democrats.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. nope, talk to people outside of the bubble and it's across the board-
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:44 PM
Apr 2015

New blood needed -

Get on board with Martin O'Malley!


NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
7. Except that on election day people on the right will absolutely vote AGAINST whoever the Dem is NO
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:45 PM
Apr 2015

MATTER who it is but especially if it is Hillary.

Give me a viable alternative who can beat the cons and I am on board, until then, I will do what must be done to prevent further harm

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
9. Prevent further Harm? LOL, this is a primary battle Hillary hasn't been anointed, yet-
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:55 PM
Apr 2015

When the dust settles don't worry-

The folks who supported other Dems in the primary won't go all fucking "PUMA" like happened in the first go around with her



Stupid PUMAs

Took a beautiful animal and made it sound ugly-

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
23. the BUBBLE LOLOLOLOL
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:02 PM
Apr 2015

How funny...

I cant even begin to list the positions I take that put me so far left it would make your head spin, as they used to day

bubble my ass

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
10. Conservatives really hate Jeb
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

They think he's a liberal Republican, especially on issues like immigration.

If you ever lurk through the conservative blogosphere and media, you'll find he is probably least favorite candidate in their primary.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
18. When in the polling booth and it is ANY con vs the hated Hillary, they vote for the con
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:43 PM
Apr 2015

The point of this thread is dont believe that the dynasty meme, which is bullshit on it's face due to the fact that the Clinton's are self made and Bush's are spoiled rich kids, is being played out right here on DU and in the media.

Repeated references to "anybody but Hillary or anybody but Jeb"

problem is righty dont go that way

you may find a tiny minority of righty who vote for some 3rd person, but it will be tiny

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
32. It's more about enthusiasm gaps
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:12 PM
Apr 2015

If Jeb is the nominee, it will be interesting to observe turn out. They really don't like the guy right now. Perhaps that will change.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
14. I started my vegetable garden this weekend
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:15 PM
Apr 2015

I spent Sunday ripping out the fabric and tilling the soil and old mulch with a brand new gas powered tiller that we just purchased - usually rent one, and then covering the earth in manure and such.
I'm going to let the earth sit for probably a week as it's going to rain a bunch a this week and then plant the starter plants and seeds this weekend.

I missed the entire Celtics game for this effort which probably wasn't so bad since they lost.

Last year we tried a few new veggies in the garden: green beans and peas. The green beans were a huge fail and the different kinds of peas were a rousing success. We don't really eat green beans anyway so I don't know why we wasted the space.

We usually plant a few kinds of heirloom tomatoes along with the grapes, cherries and such but they didn't have any at the store so we need to go on the hunt for some this week so they can be planted with everything else this weekend.

Man, I'm getting old as two days later I'm still so damn sore. It'll be worth it when I'm eating cucumbers, peas and tomatoes for breakfast.

Can't wait.

 

Rolando

(88 posts)
31. Most interesting post
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:41 PM
Apr 2015

that I've read today. I'm in Arizona now, trying to wrap up business and get out to my other place in Puget Sound. Things will grow in Arizona, but you have to stand over them and pour water on them 18 hours a day. Western Washington State is a different matter, but the growing season is short. And I know what sore is: I'm sore from just living nearly 83 years.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
16. Polling I saw indicated Clinton's family ties helped her with voters. Bush not so much.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:22 PM
Apr 2015

People remember the Clinton years more fondly than the Bush years.



I apologize for not providing the link, has been a couple weeks ago and I can't find it. If I come across it will link it later.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
19. It's not a meme it's a fact and IMO a mockery of ideal of democracy
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:49 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes, I know it's not illegal, but the fact that we're drinking from the same wells so soon, is an indication of how captured and skewed the system has become. Personally, I'm appalled many think 'it's no big deal'.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
21. I never said it was no big deal, I said it is bullshit in the first place.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:58 PM
Apr 2015

Plus, if my ALTERNATIVE is Scott Walker, like in a Chinese Food Restaurant "Scott Walker comes with Koch Brothers"

or if it is Hillary who comes with Bill (his record in the WH SHAMES the two Bush presidencies) I take the Hillary

You see it will be a choice like that, if she is nominated.

If not and we have someone like Bernie and we win, I will be thrilled.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
30. indeed there was - and the weakness in our party is that instead of banding behind her
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:34 PM
Apr 2015

and going more to the left - we start attacking each other on trivial positions.

the repugs, meanwhile, don't win an election but act like they were voted in by everyone.

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