It sure as hell cuts down on all these embarrassing false conviction discoveries.

for falsely imprisoned mostly young men whose lives were stolen from them.
The long hair and beard did him in - count on it - those establishment MoFos hated folks with long hair.

Fukin' Hippie, Drug Addict and sexual pervert.

Jus' kiddin'

he likely was of something even more vile. Either way, there's another Commie Mo Fo off the street.

At least 10 of 12 thought that. "The cops hauled this guy in so he is guilty of something. They did their job and got him off the street, now we need to do ours and keep him off the street."

who aren't prepared to tolerate it

loans being decided, wealth being allocated and sold, decisions on schools - a hundred things, all based on skin color becoming equal.

Just let me know when I can look, cause it ain't started yet. Lots of people running around shouting, but we are still filling body bags, still keeping whole generations of people mired in poverty with policy decisions that keep them there while we enrich others.

The people who really need to stop tolerating it are the ones who aren't shouting. They aren't doing much of anything, really, and probably aren't going to. They are the biggest part of the problem.

and it is true that most of the people who really need to stop tolerating it aren't shouting - but some are - and some are exposing establishment racism. We'll all have to keep fighting.

'He didn't deserve the beating he got, but he was driving drunk, and refused a direct order!'

Meaning, I guess, that you know, King's failings mitigate the abuse which was dished out by the LAPD. !

As it is with the Cameron Todd Willingham execution - people have gone on camera to say, 'well maybe he didn't do THAT, but he was a wife-beater and all-around bad guy, so who cares'.

This is a nation which was founded, in part, on human slavery. In contrast to France which was, in a modern form, founded on the supremacy of human RIGHTS (or any number of other modern states).

We don't really value life and we pretend about values and due process of law - it's mostly BS.

If the jury could watch that video and find those officers not guilty then anyone can be convicted of anything. Especially if they are a person of color.

I'm just gobsmacked that the hair testing wasn't done with double blind testing that made having the prosecutions' backs impossible.

because these fuckers made up shit rather than applying science properly.

If you can't impress them with the facts, dazzle them with the bullshit.

The Forensics Examiner was obviously incompetent, and refused to acknowledge it, or he was just too stupid to know he was stupid.

pseudo- scientific language impressed the jurors

..well, we get somebody...

It's the "supposed" science that is given in evidence in this case.

Maybe I'm misreading your headline since we are both arguing the same argument.

Science should be impartial. It should be totally documented and reproducible. The hoped-for outcome shouldn't have any bearing on the testing or reporting.

Getting to the second part of your headline:

Anywhere that science is supported by political interests (and I worked for the US HHS during BushW) there is always a tug to keep uncomfortable facts from appearing.

I'm sure that most of the respected research groups are largely untainted by the donors' bequests, but "most" and "largely" are still part of the equation.

I also hope that I didn't say something that contradicted your position. I merely wanted to add a couple of centimes worth of my opinion.

Science (and the facts that it relies on and searches for) is a wonderful thing. The interpretation of those facts can be open to discussion. Were the movements of the stars because of a celestial globe that surrounded us, or a fantastical set of mechanical gears and god-given orbs? Or were these perceived movements because the whole universe (as we know it) is in motion, not relative to us/Earth, but that's just the way it is. Maybe someday someone will say that we're just little jots in a semi-ethereal brownian-movement fluid. Maybe someday someone will say that rabbits in a distant galaxy are fooling with us. However "science" should still be able to work and try to figure these things out. Religion and credos already have everything under control.

Most shockingly, at least 35 defendants received the death penalty, 33 of which were the subject of false FBI testimony. Nine of the prisoners were executed and five died from other causes on death row.

But we believe in freedom, democracy and due process of law

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and only to those who are the right color and have sufficient money.

and never admit they were wrong - they remind me of ReTHUGs