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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:47 PM Apr 2015

Obama: Elizabeth Warren 'Wrong' in Opposing Trade Deal

President Barack Obama says Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and some other Democrats are "wrong" in opposing his bid to secure a free trade agreement with Asia-Pacific nations.

Obama says he would not be pursuing the trade deal if he didn't think it were good for middle class Americans.

The president is seeking "fast track" authority to advance trade deals being negotiated with numerous nations. The authority lets Congress reject or endorse, but not amend, proposed trade deals backed by the president.

The U.S. is negotiating with 11 other nations over a Trans Pacific Partnership agreement that aims to create a free trade zone in the Asia-Pacific region.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-elizabeth-warren-wrong-opposing-trade-deal-30479542

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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
2. In politics a huge advantage goes to the one controllng access
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:50 PM
Apr 2015

You get to bait people to go too far, and then your get to snap the trap on them.

Sound awful but that's politics

 

think

(11,641 posts)
6. If it is so good for middle class Americans SHOW IT TO THEM
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 04:56 PM
Apr 2015

And then maybe they will support it.....

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
8. Well that accusation must have won him a lot of friends. NOT
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:00 PM
Apr 2015

Then step out of the non-transparency room & Tell America what the reality is for us.

Transparency please Mr President.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
12. It is simpler than that
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:27 PM
Apr 2015

The Clintons made over 130 million since Bubba left office. The President just wants his cut of that sweet cash.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
11. Trust me he says... I don't think so!
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. All he'd have to do is show the thing to us, let us see it. Why does he need fast track unless it's sneaky. No, no, no, no...we've been sucker punched enough.

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betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
13. Why in the world does Obama think the middle class would trust him on this
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:31 PM
Apr 2015

given his track record. He got elected the second time for not being Romney, not because people thought he would help the middle class. He gave wall street its second bailout and did nothing about foreclosures. His people were telling us to eat our peas. He thinks making us poorer is like making us eat our peas.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,177 posts)
16. The apparent scope of the TPP probably necessitates fast-tracking it.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:30 PM
Apr 2015

But that scope is the same reason TPA should be denied.

This isn't "look, lower your tariffs by 2% and we'll do the same." You don't need twenty-some-odd chapters to accomplish that.

It looks more like a complete restructuring of trade policies, and more-than-a-little ass-kissing of multinational corporations. I'm sure there are other chapters in there that will tick off many different people, for many different reasons.

That's why it couldn't be left to the current set of fools in congress to debate. It would be picked apart, piece by piece, and then sent back to the negotiators for their re-negotiation and approval. I'm sure the same thing would be happening in the governments of all the participating countries. And then it would go back to the respective countries, and the whole process would repeat itself again and again.

What the President apparently wants is a do-all, be-all, and end-all agreement that covers all bases and all situations and makes everybody semi-happy. Remember, this the part of a President's stay in office where they want to cement their "legacy." It ain't gonna happen, or at least not the way I'm sure he hopes it would.

"Overreach" is used here a lot when referring to repubs, but I think it fits here, too.

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