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Ninga

(8,276 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:14 AM Apr 2015

Memo to Gov. Howard Dean: Citizen's United is the answer.

Dear Dr Dean:

First, reassert your self-respect and NEVER again be the whipping boy of Joe Scarborough. Do you really need "Howard Dean is an MSNBC contributor" money? The way you were treated this morning was embarrassing, demeaning and down right abusive.

Second, the answer to EVERY question about "Clinton Cash" and every other swift boating of Democrats is " Citizens United."

Via the Citizens Untied ruling, corporate money has been declared by the U.S. Supremes to be free speech.

From now on, Dr Dean, just take Ninga's advice (no charge) and simply answer every "Clinton Cash" loaded question with "Citizens United." Ask the idiots if they understand that today, foreign corporations funnel truck loads of money into PAC's and influence elections, candidates and sitting politicians. It is the only talking point needed.

You are welcome.



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Memo to Gov. Howard Dean: Citizen's United is the answer. (Original Post) Ninga Apr 2015 OP
It's now a bidding war. Let's see...One Vote vs. $ for thousands of Votes...hmmm libdem4life Apr 2015 #1
big huge money has a death grip,on our political process. Just ask John Kerry about Ninga Apr 2015 #4
Those who are in a position to need the political cash, dare not refuse or blow the whistle. At the libdem4life Apr 2015 #8
I think that is a good point to make. kentuck Apr 2015 #2
I kinda thought the same thing and stayed for the replay of that segment at 8 a.m. CTyankee Apr 2015 #3
Joe is a verbal abuser. plain and simple. Speaking of simple, Mika reading from the Times piece Ninga Apr 2015 #5
She was so snarky laughing at Dean and inching up closer to Joe...I have always wondered what really CTyankee Apr 2015 #7
Ewwww! Yes, you are exactly right. She has subjecated her intelligence in order to play the Ninga Apr 2015 #11
It annoys me that the female guests on the show invariably wear blouses or dresses that are CTyankee Apr 2015 #14
It's required apparel. Women on MSNBC must be sexualized via their clothing and in the case of Mika, Ninga Apr 2015 #16
Rachel wears a simple top and black blazer and looks wonderful. CTyankee Apr 2015 #18
Howard Dean has been through this before. Remember when they made fun of the way he laughed? libdem4life Apr 2015 #10
As we get closer to the 2016 election Joe et al will only get worse, not better. They are CTyankee Apr 2015 #12
I don't know why anyone watches that Mika oogles Joe show...but I'm sure HE sets boundaries on what libdem4life Apr 2015 #13
I swear he checks his daily republican talking points card before each show... CTyankee Apr 2015 #15
Yes, and she sits by her mirror practicing how adoring she can be and how close she can get without libdem4life Apr 2015 #17
One more word for Howard. I love you. What I don't love is watching you try to string two Ninga Apr 2015 #6
He tried but Joe wouldn't stop talking over him. He ought to tell Joe that it is so much more CTyankee Apr 2015 #9

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
4. big huge money has a death grip,on our political process. Just ask John Kerry about
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:25 AM
Apr 2015

the unnamed big money that legally swift boated him.

My mind set is "don't wave "Clinton Cash" in front of my nose cause it smells of big, huge swift boating money" -

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. Those who are in a position to need the political cash, dare not refuse or blow the whistle. At the
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:37 AM
Apr 2015

time, I couldn't figure out why he didn't come out and make a fuss. Then he's not the type...Republicans are the ones with no values or morals in cases like this. They plot and position, and we get caught off guard. It's happened so many times.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
2. I think that is a good point to make.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:22 AM
Apr 2015

I recall the opponents of CU saying that this would permit foreign countries and corporations to get involved in our elections. That is what's happening.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. I kinda thought the same thing and stayed for the replay of that segment at 8 a.m.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:23 AM
Apr 2015

It seemed like it was better the second time I viewed it so I chalked it up to having that confront me before I'd had my coffee. Mika was still annoying but Joe was just annoying, too. Things went to hell when Jeremy Peters started in on Dean. Yes, they all ganged up on Dean and it was an ambush. And this was before they had read the piece in the NYT.

Did you see Joe Stiglitz on his new book when he was on? Stiglitz is very much in the Paul Krugman camp but he got better treatment than Dr. K. got on that show. For some reason, Joe can't stand Paul. But he was much nicer to Stiglitz...

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
5. Joe is a verbal abuser. plain and simple. Speaking of simple, Mika reading from the Times piece
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:32 AM
Apr 2015

had her very best sycophant voice on...a tone that was accusatory, strident, and smarmy. her advocacy for women in the work place is a huge joke. She needs to watch a few hours of Morning Joe video to see how she plays the subservient little woman. Sickening.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. She was so snarky laughing at Dean and inching up closer to Joe...I have always wondered what really
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:36 AM
Apr 2015

goes on with those two. I know she's made reference to some of the insinuations hurled at her from viewers and got the feeling it was about her relationship with Joe. But she doesn't mind indulging her own innuendo when it comes to Hillary.

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
11. Ewwww! Yes, you are exactly right. She has subjecated her intelligence in order to play the
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:44 AM
Apr 2015

second fiddle bimbo...Her drooling over Joe is down right creepy. Her role has been sexualized- just take a look see at each and every Morning Joe promo photo and you will see a sexy, leggy Mika leaning, posing, sitting in such a way that strongly suggests they are a "couple."

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. It annoys me that the female guests on the show invariably wear blouses or dresses that are
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

sleeveless or show too much cleavage. Mika's top this morning was inappropriate. It was cut too low for a morning news show. A scoop top under a blazer would be so much better.

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
16. It's required apparel. Women on MSNBC must be sexualized via their clothing and in the case of Mika,
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:59 AM
Apr 2015

her drooling, sycophant, eye rolling behaviors.

The women on The Cycle" very often wear evening cocktail type clothing. Alex Wagner most often wears sleevless items, seldom low cut but nonetheless does on occasion.

I need to calm down....nothing I am ever going to say will ever have an affect on the things I care most about. It's fucking depressing.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. Rachel wears a simple top and black blazer and looks wonderful.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:11 PM
Apr 2015

So it's doable that a woman can dress businesslike and still head up a show on TV.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. Howard Dean has been through this before. Remember when they made fun of the way he laughed?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

That was his Swift Boating. There is so much dirt on the current gaggle of R candidates...needs a book...Sequel to Clinton Cash...that way it will get noticed. You know, equal time and all.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. As we get closer to the 2016 election Joe et al will only get worse, not better. They are
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:44 AM
Apr 2015

getting on "wartime footing" so to speak.

Yes, and while we're at it let the liberals on that show start talking about Swift Boating. Because that is what is happening with HRC. Liberals should talk nonstop about that shameful episode in American politics.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. I don't know why anyone watches that Mika oogles Joe show...but I'm sure HE sets boundaries on what
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:47 AM
Apr 2015

they CAN talk about. He's got a Republican reputation to defend.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. I swear he checks his daily republican talking points card before each show...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:51 AM
Apr 2015

he gets the ball rolling and sets the day's theme for the GOP...

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
17. Yes, and she sits by her mirror practicing how adoring she can be and how close she can get without
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:00 PM
Apr 2015

actually sitting in his lap. I got sick of the side of her face when adoring, and the top of her head when daring to make a comment she might have actually thought up, amongst other thing. Talk about a Stepford Wife...sure she's married to the money he helps her bring in...not much difference.

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
6. One more word for Howard. I love you. What I don't love is watching you try to string two
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:36 AM
Apr 2015

sentences together but big boy Joe ain't allowing it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. He tried but Joe wouldn't stop talking over him. He ought to tell Joe that it is so much more
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

entertaining when both sides get to utter complete sentences before getting interrupted...

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