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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:11 PM Apr 2015

Dear people who make and sell things:

If I have substantial risk of harming myself or your product in the course of trying to extract it from hideously difficult packaging, you are DOING IT WRONG!

I can't possibly be the only one who has experienced this, and I've seen it in everything from computer parts, to ... here's some irony ... a pair of scissors. If I have to USE scissors to get into the package of scissors, well, what the hell did I need a pair of scissors for since I clearly already have a pair!?

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Dear people who make and sell things: (Original Post) Aerows Apr 2015 OP
there was a short period KT2000 Apr 2015 #1
Holy shit, do they still sell CDs? giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #3
Yes! For us techno-idiots KT2000 Apr 2015 #10
Lol, that's terrible. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #20
We have CDs, DVDs, and even VHS tapes still. Skidmore Apr 2015 #70
My 13yr old found an old Public Enemy cassette tape of mine giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #74
Our five-year old found a cassette in the garage. Codeine Apr 2015 #75
My 13 yr old asked me what the phone jack in the house was for the other day... giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #79
Oh man. I just realized Codeine Apr 2015 #81
Oh yeah, I tell them the horrors of my friend's actually having giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #88
Or until your device dies pscot Apr 2015 #72
That's devastating, if I'm in my car my phone stays charging. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #77
MP3 is great when you're on the run... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #90
So true KT2000 Apr 2015 #92
Because Amazon refuses to offer music downloads in FLAC format, kentauros Apr 2015 #113
I dare you to open a package of small AAA batteries. StarzGuy Apr 2015 #42
Nooooooo shenmue Apr 2015 #69
Batteries not included Aerows Apr 2015 #73
You'll bleed to death. nt Nay Apr 2015 #103
You are going to have to post that in Chinese hifiguy Apr 2015 #2
LOL! Aerows Apr 2015 #5
I've long felt that my demise will be the result of a struggle between myself and a package. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #4
I know! Aerows Apr 2015 #8
I stabbed myself once trying to open an umbrella I had just gotten which was in RKP5637 Apr 2015 #86
Let the cats at it. hifiguy Apr 2015 #15
I read that entirely... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #91
One of my big problems are the packaging on things you buy by mail. I realize that it is packaged jwirr Apr 2015 #6
Half the time Aerows Apr 2015 #12
Agreed. jwirr Apr 2015 #94
Good luck jberryhill Apr 2015 #7
Hello! Aerows Apr 2015 #9
Tin snips Warpy Apr 2015 #11
I'll hold them down for you! Aerows Apr 2015 #13
Dunno, mine didn't. Warpy Apr 2015 #16
Maybe there is hope Aerows Apr 2015 #95
+1. Or kitchen shears. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #32
Don't get me started on changing the batteries on a Crest Spin-Brush LeftInTX Apr 2015 #14
I don't even have arthritis Aerows Apr 2015 #19
The last couple of thumb drives I bought ... lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #17
Yep! Aerows Apr 2015 #18
Holy fuckin' DAMN Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #21
Dear Lord 150 of them!? Aerows Apr 2015 #23
I don't know the proper word for it Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #37
That irritates the crap out of me Aerows Apr 2015 #38
...and what's up with those folded instruction papers anyway... StarzGuy Apr 2015 #45
I can read them Aerows Apr 2015 #99
Try opening a Barbie package... Phentex Apr 2015 #22
Those plastic ties Aerows Apr 2015 #24
I have to wonder how many things are ruined by Phentex Apr 2015 #25
Yup. Kids toys are ridiculous. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #33
And snipping all the tiny sections of hair from the cardboard without cutting her hair! Ahhhhhh! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #85
Packaging has become so absurd over the last several years... arcane1 Apr 2015 #26
Seriously Aerows Apr 2015 #29
I have a special tool for opening packages. Works great! BlueJazz Apr 2015 #27
LOL! Aerows Apr 2015 #28
You're not playing fair...YOU are supposed to BUY A PACKAGE OPENER HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #30
Well using a damn razor Aerows Apr 2015 #31
That hard plastic... Octafish Apr 2015 #34
If it is easier Aerows Apr 2015 #35
I've passes on products in that sharp plastic packaging crap LittleBlue Apr 2015 #36
It IS dangerous Aerows Apr 2015 #39
Bought some Bluetooth headphones the other day. DirkGently Apr 2015 #40
See, this is what I'm talking about! Aerows Apr 2015 #43
Yeah man. WTF????? StarzGuy Apr 2015 #41
If you need power tools Aerows Apr 2015 #44
A utility knife usually works rather well on that heavy plastic stuff. WillowTree Apr 2015 #46
I'll have to keep that in mind Aerows Apr 2015 #49
I hate that hard plastic! redwitch Apr 2015 #47
Either cut yourself on the plastic itself Aerows Apr 2015 #51
I believe the term you're looking for here is.... ClusterFreak Apr 2015 #48
If it is easier Aerows Apr 2015 #50
LOL, it might be worth it if there were gold in them thar hermetically sealed packages!! ClusterFreak Apr 2015 #54
SOCKS! Whatever you do do not buy ladies' SOCKS! applegrove Apr 2015 #52
Too late Aerows Apr 2015 #58
But did you get the socks with the plastic tie that holds the 2 pairs together? applegrove Apr 2015 #78
It's ridiculous Aerows Apr 2015 #80
Box of hand grenades "opening box may cause physical injury" NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #53
Pretty much! Aerows Apr 2015 #61
AFter 30minutes of trying without sharp object to open package, we resort to knife NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #62
for dvds and cds in their jackets i grab the indent on the long part of the cover and pull :) allan01 Apr 2015 #55
Ha ha ha! Aerows Apr 2015 #66
You need a Sawzall. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #56
That looks Aerows Apr 2015 #68
makes perfect sense foo_bar Apr 2015 #104
Hmmm... MineralMan Apr 2015 #57
I have a few pocket knives Aerows Apr 2015 #63
It's all in how you do it and MineralMan Apr 2015 #71
I actually have quite a bit of experience with this Aerows Apr 2015 #76
Whatever. I have no problem with that type of package. MineralMan Apr 2015 #82
Whatever. I have no problem with that type of package. MineralMan Apr 2015 #82
We agree on that one Aerows Apr 2015 #84
K & R, hugely Thespian2 Apr 2015 #59
Well, there will Aerows Apr 2015 #65
Absoooolutely!! Thespian2 Apr 2015 #67
Reading through all these comments, I have to wonder Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #60
No KIDDING! Aerows Apr 2015 #64
ROFL....I bet it is. nt Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #87
For better or worse, people buy things because people use things. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #97
There is a fine line Aerows Apr 2015 #98
No shit, i agree 100%. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #106
It works jmowreader Apr 2015 #107
ROFL. How did I know that! nt Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #112
LOL! Aerows Apr 2015 #115
Curb Your Enthusiasm... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #89
yes; this is EXACTLY how I behave Skittles Apr 2015 #100
I don't know if that video shows it awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #101
Zibra ZPCOPEN-OR Open It Universal Package Opener MicaelS Apr 2015 #93
Seriously. It's like you have to buy a utility knife to open the utilty knife packaging. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #96
Blood, Sweat and Tears. n/t Aerows Apr 2015 #124
I have bought items that had packaging that had to be more ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #102
You know that there is an entire Aerows Apr 2015 #122
I've literally gone down to the garage and used my table saw to open those things. NBachers Apr 2015 #105
It's silly Aerows Apr 2015 #121
I rely on heavy shears and a liberal dose of profanity to open those finger traps. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #108
Heavy dose of profanity Aerows Apr 2015 #119
I consider myself bi-lingual when dealing with such things. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #123
my grandma & her sister hoarded many packaging of yore. a lot of it I AM gonna hoard cause it is pansypoo53219 Apr 2015 #109
It beats me, PansyPoo Aerows Apr 2015 #120
They do it for theft prevention Novara Apr 2015 #110
There you have it. Aerows Apr 2015 #118
+1 DanTex Apr 2015 #111
I'm back to this - Aerows Apr 2015 #117
+ about a trillion! And imagine the environmental impact of all that inpenetrable plastic! Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2015 #114
Why is it necessary Aerows Apr 2015 #116
Yeah. As I said--to make it hard to shoplift. But, again, mail order doesn't have that need. Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2015 #125
That's whacked out Aerows Apr 2015 #126

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
1. there was a short period
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:16 PM
Apr 2015

of time when Costco would open their awful packaging at the checkout. They had a special tool. Maybe workers were injured or something but they stopped that. Also - CDs are ridiculous to open.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
20. Lol, that's terrible.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:32 PM
Apr 2015

I don't even know why I have my old one's sitting in the car if I think of a song I want to hear I just download it to my phone for free & boom it's there for ever.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
70. We have CDs, DVDs, and even VHS tapes still.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:01 PM
Apr 2015

Gobs of them. We even have a few cassettes and a selection of 8-tracks. We also have all the equipment to play any of them, kept in repair by my husband. One thing we don't have is smart phones.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
74. My 13yr old found an old Public Enemy cassette tape of mine
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:05 PM
Apr 2015

a few months back, he took it out looked it over then tried to put it back in the case. It took him a good 90 seconds to figure out how to put it away. It was a sad day for me.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
75. Our five-year old found a cassette in the garage.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

When his mom told him there was music on it he looked it over and asked where to plug the headphones in. 😆

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
79. My 13 yr old asked me what the phone jack in the house was for the other day...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:13 PM
Apr 2015


It's a whole other world & I was born in the late 70's, I can't imagine what it's like for the older generations.
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
88. Oh yeah, I tell them the horrors of my friend's actually having
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:53 PM
Apr 2015

to call the house phone & me either having to talk in front of my parents, have a 50 ft phone cord that I might be able to drag around the corner or maybe a cordless phone. But there were 3 girls in the house all within a 18 mths of each other so the phone was a hot commodity.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
77. That's devastating, if I'm in my car my phone stays charging.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:09 PM
Apr 2015

I'm a tech baby so making sure I have plenty of juice is a necessity.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
90. MP3 is great when you're on the run...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:31 PM
Apr 2015

but the compression kills a lot of the sound. CDs aren't as good as vinyl, but they are light years ahead of compressed music.

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
92. So true
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:45 PM
Apr 2015

Flat screen TVs with no sound bar are not very good either. Got a DVD of my favorite pianist and the parts where he plays in concert are really disappointing. The sound is so thin. His CDs are much fuller and a joy to listen to.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
113. Because Amazon refuses to offer music downloads in FLAC format,
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:35 PM
Apr 2015

I continue to buy CDs so I can then rip them myself to FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec.) Wav-files are best because they aren't compressed, but then take up more room on your high-end PMP (Portable Media Player.) I own a Cowon Z2, 32gb with MicroSD slot for added capacity

Now, if you can afford to own the highest-end products like a Cowon Plenue 1, or HiFiMan HM-802, or Sony ZX2, or Astell&Kern AK240, or FiiO X5, then you might want to go with uncompressed audio files.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
73. Batteries not included
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:04 PM
Apr 2015

Because they were too freaking hard to get into for our industrial plant.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
5. LOL!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Apr 2015

Actually I've seen it done with some USA made goods, as well, but you are right that it is mostly goods made in China or Taiwan.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I know!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:21 PM
Apr 2015

Wielding sharp knives, or using scissors at awkward angles - nothing good will come of that!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
86. I stabbed myself once trying to open an umbrella I had just gotten which was in
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:40 PM
Apr 2015

a horribly thick plastic package, the kind they weld all around the edges.

So, I'm traveling on business, in a hotel room opening this thing, got my sharp penknife out, pressing down on the package, but it slipped, I don't know how, and stabbed my thigh.

Made a cut about 1 1/2 inches deep, about 3/4" wide, blood all over the place. I drove to urgent care, got in quickly, they got questioning about if I was in a fight and all, lots and lots of questions, guess they believed me and did not launch a police investigation.

Damn, I was holding the package correctly, the package was so strong a very sharp knife had trouble cutting the ultra industrial strength plastic. Ended up with about 6 stitches, a tetanus shot and lots of bandages. Damn, it hurt a week or two, still have a scar.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. Let the cats at it.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:27 PM
Apr 2015

Cats are exceptionally ingenious about opening things they are not supposed to open.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. One of my big problems are the packaging on things you buy by mail. I realize that it is packaged
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Apr 2015

to travel from a long ways away but we not only have trouble opening them but we have to recycle them. And there is a lot of material inside the box that cannot be recycled.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
12. Half the time
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:25 PM
Apr 2015

I'm tempted to throw the entire thing away, product and all, due to the fact that you practically need a chainsaw for some of them.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Good luck
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:21 PM
Apr 2015

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrap_rage

Wrap rage, also called package rage, is the common name for heightened levels of anger and frustration resulting from the inability to open hard-to-open packaging, particularly some heat-sealed plastic blister packs and clamshells. People suffer thousands of injuries per year, such as cut fingers and sprained wrists, from tools used to open packages and from packaging itself, and in some cases damage the items they are trying to free from packaging.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Hello!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:22 PM
Apr 2015

That's exactly what I'm talking about. If packaging is so hard to get into that you have to go to the emergency room for stitches after an attempt, something is WRONG.

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
11. Tin snips
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:24 PM
Apr 2015

have saved me a great deal of aggravation over the years when it comes to that damned heavy plastic that is impervious to kitchen knives, ordinary scissors, hedge clippers, and saws.

I don't know who invented that damned heavy plastic wrapping but I'd love to get him alone in a dark alley for a few minutes.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. I'll hold them down for you!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:26 PM
Apr 2015

I didn't think of tin snips. Do they also come in packages which require a set of tin snips to get into them?

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
16. Dunno, mine didn't.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:28 PM
Apr 2015

They're just large and heavy enough that the heavy bubble plastic isn't cost effective. Mine came with light cardboard holding the handles together and a couple of twist ties holding the cardboard on.

LeftInTX

(25,494 posts)
14. Don't get me started on changing the batteries on a Crest Spin-Brush
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:26 PM
Apr 2015

Good gosh, I had to get my husband out of bed to open the battery thingy. (The Oral-B screws, but the Crest thing requires a super-human grip)

No you are not alone. All of this stuff drives me crazy. I've got arthritis and there is no mercy for us.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. I don't even have arthritis
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:31 PM
Apr 2015

and I am pretty nimble with my hands, but I've nearly lost a finger getting into some of these horrible Fort Knox contraptions.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
17. The last couple of thumb drives I bought ...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:29 PM
Apr 2015



almost required a blow torch to get the item out of the packaging.


I'm with you.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. Yep!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
Apr 2015

If there is a threat of amputating a finger to get into something, who the hell wants to steal it in the first place?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. Holy fuckin' DAMN
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:34 PM
Apr 2015

We had a program at my department, and a free thumb drive was one of the giveaways, and I had to open 150 individually packaged ones...Yeah, I cursed a whole lot since that hard plastic when cut can slice your hand like a shard of glass

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. I don't know the proper word for it
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:57 PM
Apr 2015

but I agree 1000% that this hard-seal plastic packaging needs to be eliminated...Hard to believe there hasn't been some kind of lawsuit already...Always fun when you use an industrial pair of scissors and end up scratching your product or cutting through the instruction booklet...

I've had to use HEDGE SHEARS(!) on some of the bigger packages...I'm serious...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
38. That irritates the crap out of me
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:03 PM
Apr 2015

when you either dice up the instruction booklet or scratch/destroy something taking it out of the package. It annoys me less than getting wounded on the hard, sharp plastic though!

StarzGuy

(254 posts)
45. ...and what's up with those folded instruction papers anyway...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:30 PM
Apr 2015

...It's a stretch to call them papers, more like single ply tissue paper. Is it my eyes or do I really need to buy a microscope to read the teeny tiny print of these instructions now?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
99. I can read them
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:28 PM
Apr 2015

The only reason why is that I am so near-sighted without vision correction that I can't see a foot in front of me. What I do is "float" my contact lens aside so that I'm not using correction, and bring it right in my face. I can read just about anything in that circumstance.



Phentex

(16,334 posts)
22. Try opening a Barbie package...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:35 PM
Apr 2015

First, the package. Then a billion twist tie thingies all rolled in opposite directions. Then scissors needed to snip the plastic ties holding parts down.

But she is in pristine condition so there is that.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
85. And snipping all the tiny sections of hair from the cardboard without cutting her hair! Ahhhhhh!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:23 PM
Apr 2015

And my little pony sets with all those tiny parts!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. Packaging has become so absurd over the last several years...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:40 PM
Apr 2015

I'm half convinced it's some sort of bizarre social experiment

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
29. Seriously
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:47 PM
Apr 2015

if severing an artery might be a potential hazard of getting into an item, something is just not right here.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
30. You're not playing fair...YOU are supposed to BUY A PACKAGE OPENER
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:49 PM
Apr 2015

it's got a handle and a little razor that goes around the edge of the clear bubble plastic

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
36. I've passes on products in that sharp plastic packaging crap
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:47 PM
Apr 2015

It should be outlawed. Invented so you can't return anything and it's dangerous

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
39. It IS dangerous
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:04 PM
Apr 2015

The plastic stuff is sharp when you cut it, and whatever you are using to break into the vault holding your product you just bought can slip, too.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
40. Bought some Bluetooth headphones the other day.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:13 PM
Apr 2015

They came in a blister pack containing blister packs, wound in ultra-strong tape, within some blister packs.

I'm really not sure they're fully opened now, and I've been using them a couple of weeks.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
43. See, this is what I'm talking about!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:26 PM
Apr 2015

I have a couple of things myself that I am not completely convinced are fully extracted from the safe they came in!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
44. If you need power tools
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

to get something out of whatever it was sealed in, the company packing/producing/selling it is doing it wrong!

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
46. A utility knife usually works rather well on that heavy plastic stuff.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:31 PM
Apr 2015

Can pretty much slice around the prize inside without too much ado.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
49. I'll have to keep that in mind
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:35 PM
Apr 2015

Still, is it really necessary to close things up so tight that you need a tool devoted to getting into something you just purchased!?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
51. Either cut yourself on the plastic itself
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:37 PM
Apr 2015

or whatever tool you are using to crack the vault it came in!

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
48. I believe the term you're looking for here is....
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:35 PM
Apr 2015

WRAP RAGE!!!!

And I am totally hip to your post!! Drives me right up the freaking wall that so many household items today are wrapped so tightly, in such an unpenetrable, hard plastic vacuum seal, that the only way to open them is with a small set of explosives!

Aaaargh I tells ya, AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
58. Too late
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:50 PM
Apr 2015

I could have gone on about those and all the little tag thingies they have on them, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to the clamshell packages that electronics and various items come in.

applegrove

(118,749 posts)
78. But did you get the socks with the plastic tie that holds the 2 pairs together?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:12 PM
Apr 2015

With the sticker on each sock? All neatly hung over the tiny little sock hanger? I swear they are afraid one of those little socks are going to take off and run away.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
80. It's ridiculous
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

Someone is clearly going to run off with two pairs of socks that cost $2 if they don't secure them from sock theft.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
53. Box of hand grenades "opening box may cause physical injury"
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:38 PM
Apr 2015

trying to think of the right joke here


dangerous contents but opening box more dangerous

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
62. AFter 30minutes of trying without sharp object to open package, we resort to knife
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:52 PM
Apr 2015

and that is when the fun and blood begins

allan01

(1,950 posts)
55. for dvds and cds in their jackets i grab the indent on the long part of the cover and pull :)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:40 PM
Apr 2015

ghads , i hate everything coated in cellophane and packaged so tight they seem to say .I DARE YOU . insert evIl laugh here .

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
66. Ha ha ha!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:56 PM
Apr 2015

"You just paid $15 dollars for me, now try to get to your purchase, foolish mortal!"

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
68. That looks
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:57 PM
Apr 2015

extremely useful! What on earth are these companies thinking packaging crap in these things like they are selling diamonds?

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
104. makes perfect sense
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 12:31 AM
Apr 2015

That way we can pay to burn more fossil fuels to crack open this (no doubt petroleum based) exoskeleton that enhances the corporate bottom line by like 0.001% at the expense of everyone else involved.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
57. Hmmm...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:46 PM
Apr 2015

The pocket knife that is always in my right pants pocket makes short work of all package opening chores. It is an excellent tool. My wife has a similar one, although smaller, in her purse.

I recommend that everyone have a knife handy. Who knows, you might have to cut a seat belt to save someone's life. Buy a pocket knife and keep it sharp. You'll be amazed at how often you use it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
63. I have a few pocket knives
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:52 PM
Apr 2015

Good quality, too.

I've encountered some plastic so hard and thick surrounding a product (usually something like electronics) that they barely get the job done and you barely escape injury.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
71. It's all in how you do it and
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:01 PM
Apr 2015

whether the knife is sharp. Never use the point to cut plastic packaging. Use the very sharp edge to cut a corner of a raised area, then slice the plastic around the product, always cutting away from youself. Zip, it's open.

A dull knife is dangerous. A sharp knife is a valuable tool. Opening packaging is a natural job for a sharp knife.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
76. I actually have quite a bit of experience with this
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:09 PM
Apr 2015

And trust me, it isn't exactly that easy. I sharpen my knives at a 17° angle progressively (when I first obtain one) from 300 grit, to 600 grit, to 1200 grit and finish with a 2400 grit.

I don't stroll around with poor quality or poor edged pocket knives, so your information is not helpful.

Now if *I* (at 42) have issues getting into packaging being able to harness that type of equipment, how hard do you think it is for someone without it, or people with arthritis?

Answer - heading into cutting the shit out of themselves territory.

It is a very valid gripe.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
82. Whatever. I have no problem with that type of package.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:17 PM
Apr 2015

None. I just slice it open and get on with my day. Haven't cut myself for years. They use that packaging for advertising, shipping protection and theft prevention. It's very effective for all three. Now ask me about Styrofoam molded blocks. It can't be recycled, takes up enormous space and is unnecessary, since molded paper pulp packaging works as well and is completely recyclable.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
82. Whatever. I have no problem with that type of package.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:17 PM
Apr 2015

None. I just slice it open and get on with my day. Haven't cut myself for years. They use that packaging for advertising, shipping protection and theft prevention. It's very effective for all three. Now ask me about Styrofoam molded blocks. It can't be recycled, takes up enormous space and is unnecessary, since molded paper pulp packaging works as well and is completely recyclable.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
59. K & R, hugely
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:50 PM
Apr 2015

The "great" thing about the hard plastic is...it will finish biodegrading a few seconds before the earth dies.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
65. Well, there will
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:55 PM
Apr 2015

probably still be a cockroach sitting under a kudzu vine, blissfully unaware.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
60. Reading through all these comments, I have to wonder
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:50 PM
Apr 2015

why we continue to buy these things. We should be protesting this by not buying things we will not be able to get into.

BTW, those cheap product catalogs sell a special tool to use to open this packaging. I don't know if it works, but it says something about a society that requires a special tool to open things we buy.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
64. No KIDDING!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:54 PM
Apr 2015

That was my point. If I have to buy a product to get into the product I just bought, something is not right here.

And is that opener tool contained in the same hellish plasto vaulted nightmare?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
97. For better or worse, people buy things because people use things.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:15 PM
Apr 2015

And companies package shit in ways that will harm someone who tries to tear open the package in a hurry, because often people try to tear open packages in a hurry to steal those things.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's why.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
98. There is a fine line
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:25 PM
Apr 2015

between security and usability - I get that. But when something requires special tools to get into the thing you just bought, you can potentially injure yourself while opening it, and this seems A-Ok, something isn't right.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
107. It works
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:32 AM
Apr 2015

How well it works we may never know. I used to sell those damn things. They came in clamshell packaging.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
101. I don't know if that video shows it
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:39 PM
Apr 2015

but he went to buy an exacto knife for the job and it was clamshelled, too. Jeff got in a wreck because his wife was giving fellatio, Larry sees the wreck, goes to get the knife to cut the seatbelt and discovers he can't open it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
96. Seriously. It's like you have to buy a utility knife to open the utilty knife packaging.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:13 PM
Apr 2015

Not sure what you're supposed to open that with, though.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
102. I have bought items that had packaging that had to be more
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 12:01 AM
Apr 2015

expensive than the product contained within. And most of it requires a small nuclear device to frack the seal open.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
122. You know that there is an entire
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:11 PM
Apr 2015

field that designs this crap, and people employ calculus to mold the plastic in the most "secure" and inconvenient way possible to keep down storage space.

If you had a reason to hate math, well, here's another one - what they do with it in volume calculations!

NBachers

(17,133 posts)
105. I've literally gone down to the garage and used my table saw to open those things.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:14 AM
Apr 2015

Fortunately, my fingers survived the experience.

I'll take those microscopic directions tissues and put them in my scanner; then blow 'em up on the computer screen.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
121. It's silly
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

that we have to go through such gyrations to get into the thing we paid for! I can get into a tin can with a pocket knife more easily!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
119. Heavy dose of profanity
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:07 PM
Apr 2015

If you can open one of those "finger traps" as you call them without uttering something completely explicit and unacceptable in polite company, clearly you are unable to speak at all.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
123. I consider myself bi-lingual when dealing with such things.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:11 PM
Apr 2015

English and profanity. And, profanity has the edge when dealing or talking about recalcitrant computers, bubble wrap, Republicans and most other politicians.

pansypoo53219

(20,987 posts)
109. my grandma & her sister hoarded many packaging of yore. a lot of it I AM gonna hoard cause it is
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:26 AM
Apr 2015

pretty & nice and WHY are we doing this shit? ok. child proof i get. but the little pill tins, we found a LOVELY chartreuse plastic nylons box i think. a perm box. aluminum. the little tubes. cello tape tins. type writer ribbon tins. put band winds in OLD METAL BOXES instead of flimsy paper boxes..

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
120. It beats me, PansyPoo
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:08 PM
Apr 2015

Packaging used to be something that enticed you to buy something. Now it makes you grimace and wonder how the hell you will get what you bought out of there.

Novara

(5,849 posts)
110. They do it for theft prevention
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 07:37 AM
Apr 2015

But it makes me want to blow up the whole store.

Box cutters don't work. These damn things laugh at scissors. Sharp knife? Amateur.

Wrap Rage. I has it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
118. There you have it.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:06 PM
Apr 2015

Theft prevention, but the rate at which you want to commit arson goes up LOL!

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
111. +1
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 07:42 AM
Apr 2015

With all the miracles of modern technology, they still can't make a package that's openable without power tools.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
117. I'm back to this -
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:05 PM
Apr 2015

If I need a $20 tool to open a $5 purchase and risk substantial harm if said tool slips, you are doing it wrong. Hell, I can open a can with a pocket knife can opener (Wenger and Victorinox !), and that's pretty much a lost art.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
114. + about a trillion! And imagine the environmental impact of all that inpenetrable plastic!
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 02:37 PM
Apr 2015

Amazon does some "frustration-free" packaging. If i knew anything about organizing I'd start a movement to get them to increase that effort thousandfold.

I understand (to a degree) the marketing value of a pretty package and the anti-shoplifting reasons for some of that packaging, but I don't need that on Amazon. There is no threat of shoplifting, and I can see the pretty packaging on the site, you don't need it to be shipped to you.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
125. Yeah. As I said--to make it hard to shoplift. But, again, mail order doesn't have that need.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:15 PM
Apr 2015

Also, some people like that crap. When I worked as a clerk in a convenience store, it always amazed me that people insisted on a bag to carry out one item they'd just purchased. The best I could figure is that they just felt they wanted all that was coming to them. (Also, some people make use of the bags, but not most, I'd guess.)

If stores were more willing to hire staff, they could have clerks retrieve those things from secure locations, but I think most customers don't want to deal with that. They'd rather risk a knife wound from trying to open the package.

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