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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:11 PM Apr 2015

I'm still unclear how one's prior criminal record justifies lethal police brutality against a person

Whether it was Michael Brown, Walter Scott or Freddie Gray, some people feel the need to flash those individuals' prior records as if they serve as a justification for what happened to them.

Are folks really that stupid? I mean, honestly.

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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
1. Apparently, yes. I don't think a person's prior record should even be mentioned in the trial of a
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:16 PM
Apr 2015

police officer accused of harming an individual unless the police officer can show that they were aware of the record prior to the incident.

If the p.o. didn't know the person had shoplifted in the past there is now way it could have been a consideration in his actions.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. It doesn't but it serves to cloud the circumstances in the absence of a camera.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:19 PM
Apr 2015

If someone has a record, that gives more weight to the cop's version of what happened. That's why I think body cams should already be routine across the country. You carry a gun or a badge, you wear a camera, no exceptions.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. Hell, there were arguments that because trayvon got suspended once, he deserved to be shot
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:56 PM
Apr 2015

It's not "stupidity," it's hate. It's that these people see a dead black person and their first response is "GOOD!" - but it's impolite to say so, so they try to concoct some halfassed reason to claim it's good.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
6. It's funny. It takes cops weeks or months to investigate their killings.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:01 PM
Apr 2015

But if they kill somebody, you'll know within minutes that that guy got busted for shoplifting in 1987.

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
9. Hammer meet nail.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:29 PM
Apr 2015

It's one of those social engineered loopholes that allows the police to try a person twice for his or her crimes.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
11. There seems to be a need for some to reason that even if the person brutalized didn't do anything
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:07 PM
Apr 2015

wrong this time, he or she certainly will in the future based on having a criminal record. I'm still trying to figure out how not having eye contact with a cop is probable cause to stop the person (let alone have that person end up arrested and dead). What a totally fucked up country.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
12. The same reason rape victims get their prior sexual history
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:12 PM
Apr 2015

thrown into the mix. We live in a society that protects power and violence, and blames victims.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,577 posts)
13. Me too.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:18 PM
Apr 2015

Imagine if we paid police by how fast they could get someone booked into the station. No time to beat the suspect, gotta book 'em and make that dough!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
14. It can never justify brutality, but it can affect the credibility of the cop's version of events.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:36 PM
Apr 2015

If a cop claims that he shot someone because that person pointed a weapon at him, if it turns out that the person he shot has a history of armed violent crime then the cop's version of events becomes more believable than if the person has no criminal record.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
16. It doesn't. But it makes Authoritarians feel better about living in a police state.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:45 PM
Apr 2015

And yes people are that vapid.

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