But, no. We need the plutonium for some reason.

It can be found on ENEnews.com ........search for it

dosdos
April 25, 2015 at 6:47 pm

All it takes is one stem cell to be altered for the effects of radiation to be felt. The human body is very good at culling damaged normal cells, but it's almost helpless at culling stem cells. Your concept of biology is not exactly in line with the medical knowledge of today.

This is why children are so much more sensitive to radiation than adults, because their ratio of stem cells to normal cells is so much higher. It doesn't take a lot of radiation to alter a stem cell, just a lucky hit.

Thinking in terms that x amount of radiation is not harmful while y amount is harmful doesn't reflect the reality of the issue. If you think in terms of black and white like you seem to do, you don't understand radiation at all. It may take a billion releases to affect you adversely, it may take only one.

a combination of bunk, snakeoil, and scaremongering.

Spreading misinformation about radioactivity is not helping the anti-nuke cause.

And your birds are likely missing from habitat loss and other human activities. Radiation from Fukushima wasn't enough to affect North American birds, but it is affecting the birds within the vicinity of the accident--in Japan.

And you don't understand what radiation can do to a life form.

That's ok, The lies put out by the pro-nuke people even fooled me once upon a time. This is your opportunity to learn. Go for it. ENEnews.com

As an ecologist, habitat is of course a keen interest of mine. The habitat - meaning the land and available natural resources -- has been doing rather well, actually. It is the invisible radiation which has been documented to have increased since Chernobyl and especially Fukushima.

I am glad to see that you do realize that the birds around Fukushima have been affected by the radiation. That is a good first step. Now you just need to come to the realization that radiation from Fukushima has landed in the US.

You are well on your way to becoming anti-nuke!!

Of course if you look closely at Audubon you will see that they are an elite bunch, and financed by elites such as nuke power industries.

They have noticed that the bird populations are in steep decline and I thank you for pointing that out. Had I done so it would have just cause a great disturbance.

Now.... again... if you look at Audubon you will notice they never harp on nukes and radiation. It is only recently that science has begun to detail the damage radiation causes to birds and you have seen such a post about that science, on DU, caused a ruckus. Which points back to this OP which shows that pro-nukers will say all kinds of bs just to protect nukes.

As for habitat... my area is my specialty. In my area habitat has improved, but the number of birds has declined. And the pop decline, as you and Audubon have pointed out, goes back to the 60's which fits with the increasing radiation since weapons testing and increased numbers of nuke power plants. 1 + 1 = 2.

I don't expect the elite Audubon to come to this realization any time soon. They have too much financial stake in this matter to attack nuke radiation.

But again you are mistaken in many ways. What's weird is, you know it.

Chernobyl and Fukushima both have increased background levels. Why deny it?

And yes, I was a member of Audubon back in the early 80's and researched their finances. Now we have proof of radiation killing birds. It is just a matter of time before Audubon comes clean and accepts that that truth. Tick, fucking, tock.

You just proved my case made in the OP. Thanks.

Watch out for THAT one, he's dangerous and scary!!

He dances around it but never actually denies it.

This nice Lady Barbara Judge, a former SEC lawyer and now UK regulator and aristocrat extraordinaire, wants to keep the world safe for nuclear power.



The mood at Fukushima Daiichi is "fantastic."

Instead of making preposterous outrageous claims about time-traveling radiation, starfish and birds.

Beware of pro-nuke people
They will say anything, slam anyone with their false statements and then hide when confronted.

nt

But the real culprit, the fucking villain, the destroyer of life, is the industry and its pollution, right?

What is this time-traveling you speak of? I see it as made up bs put out by pro-nukers. Please explain your false assertion to the folks.

Said phenomenon occurring long before Fukushima.

We just don't know where you come up with the time-traveling bs.

We all know that nuke weapon testing from the 50's polluted the Pacific. And then Fukushima has increased the background radiation by 600% and now the sea stars have had the greatest die-off since 3/11/11. Those are facts.

So your assertion is false. As WHOI has claimed: Fukushima pollution is unprecedented.

But scientifically lacking. But then you are pro-nuke, aren't you?

And every time someone refutes your BS with facts you accuse them of being pro-nuke.

You think it is a bad thing for someone to be pro-nuke?

I will admit to not having a great deal of knowledge about nukes. Heck even the professionals are learning new stuff about nukes all the time. But... what I do know tells me that nukes are an evil force that is changing life on this planet. And that change is NOT good. Do you agree?

And I am kinda getting tired of nothing but personal attacks from you. But then that just goes to show that my OP is correct. Thanks.

Good luck! How do you plan to stop every single nation on the earth from using nuclear power? I am curious, being wary of pro-corporate fascism is always smart...I don't care what brand is being pimped out.

Seriously, how do we stop the genie?

We have some political power in the US, and due to much work done over the years nuke construction was halted here. Obama did subsidize some construction and it is under way. But several nuke plants have been closed recently and some others are seeking subsidies to continue polluting by creating more waste. We need to stop it here and now.

As for what we now are living with.... the more people know about it, they better they can deal with the pollution, eh?

I see the masses of the earth writhing in trash. Also, we can lead by example but that doesn't equate into anything around the world and for countries that are developing and decide nuclear is the way to go. We can't stop them and we won't.

My point here is we will need a enforcement body that all nations will respect and promise not to build nuclear anything.

Hard to sale that point.

Kudos for you keeping up on Japan and discussing it here in GD. I think at this point anyone trusting TEPCO, probably also thinks the TPP is a great mandate for capitalism that will bring around world peace.

Ronald the asshole reagan took solar panels off the White House.

Jimmy Carter, a man who was familiar with nuke power, is the man who put them there.

34 years later, the country has just recently put solar back on our White House.

Carter also was the man who put coffin nails to nuclear power and the asshole who replaced him opened up that casket and let that vampire loose.

30 years later, on DU, I proposed that nuke power radiation was killing birds. It really pissed off some DUers, and ever since they have gone from claiming nukes were safe and radiation was not dangerous to what you see here, tonight, on this thread.

It has been one hell of a trip, and now, because of Fukushima and that fact that Fukushima can't be hidden like TMI and Chernobyl was, the pro-nuke people are relegated to a few measly posts on DU.

I have been called all kinds of names by the pro-nukes, and yet here I stand, still here, still telling the truth, 35 years after that damned asshole reagan diverted the course Carter set the country on.

Hey, one does what one can do, eh?