A CVS pharmacy looted?

They're drug pushers and whores for the pharmaceutical industry anyways.

The killing of unarmed black people causes me more concern.

Stupid.

I hadn't heard.

Give two shits about Freddie just like you don't give two shits about the community that may lose a business. You just want to see a city burn to make some kind of point.

When cops throw the rule of law out the window, shit like this will happen.

It's inevitable.

For me, the blame is with the police who are allegedly there to protect and serve, but always seem to kill unarmed black people.

about Freddie? Please answer since you're so wise. *roll eyes*

But I do know what's in the mind of a cop who severs the spinal cord of someone or guns down an unarmed black person from 30 feet away by shooting them in the back 5 times.

is going to stop police brutality!? You honestly expect for the cops to atop militarizing themselves after all of this media frenzy over looters burning shit and robbing stores, putting others in the community in danger?

I'd laugh if such logic wasn't so idiotic. News flash, the police brass will use these several rioters as an excuse to profile young black people even more, not to mention these riot turn communities will turn into violent dens of crime where black on black crime will increase tenfold and police can continue to aggressively profile and kill black people.

The cycle will repeat and corrupt cops will kill and more communities will burn as a result. Some justice!

Link?

Yeah real fucking funny.

where it occurs. Think about the urban riots of the 1960s. In the short run they gutted predominantly-Black inner-city neighborhoods in dozens of US cities. They also gave credibility to the threat that if nothing were done about the problems that sparked these uprisings, the insurrection might spread and turn into a broader civil insurrection.

In most cases the immediate cause that sparked local rioting was excessive police force, while the bigger issues were racial discrimination, disproportionate rates of minority unemployment, and poverty. There has been some progress on some of this, while other problems -- the spark -- hasn't changed one it - police violence against Blacks seems to have actually worsened today.

Something finally has to be done about the police.

Something needs to be done about police brutality, that we ALL can agree on.

You're just pretending you do.

which is hyperbole, and spines are broken, bullets in the back, skittles and tea are 'causes' for human beings to be destroyed. Which is more important?

Some progressives are never as happy as when a city is burning and being looted, to bring attention to police brutality. For whatever reason, some people think street violence will change the situation for the better.

Curious where Sharpton is ? there are cameras everywhere.

And so that you get a sense of where I'm coming from, please know that I almost never agree with Cali_Democrat on anything. But you've put words in C_D's mouth, and then slammed C_D for those words he never said. So I alerted, and I do hope your post gets locked so that you can find a more adult way to disagree with people in the future.

what do you think will stop police brutality?

We already know that rioting will not stop the criminal element of the police departments. What do you think can stop police brutality?

At the same time I'd dismiss every LEO who had been fired from another jurisdiction.

Absent that, I don't believe for a minute local governments are trying to solve this problem.

or a few of them, those stores didn't do a damned thing to deserve being looted and now, the news is showing that CVS is on fire.

So yeah, innocent people working there may not have a job tomorrow.

Possibly some small business owners who saved and scrimped for years to make a living for themselves, ruined because a bunch of assholes think it's going to bring back Mr Gray. Or whatever their motives are, because who knows...

Three street gangs have reportedly decided to team up to "take out" any and all LEOs, many of whom are probably good and decent cops.

So. People can be "concerned" about the lives of innocent black men, but that doesn't mean gratuitous violence against people who had nothing. whatsoever. to. do. with. it. is just peachy keen.

The suspense!

The family calls it "a nightmare scenario." They say it's traumatizing and destroys what they want to gain. And thievery is harmful to both the thief and the victim. There's nothing casual about it.

One scan of your posts in the RKBA forum would reveal that.

I'm not a gunner.

You like to pretend you're all about protecting the innocent...when you aren't reveling in the destruction of businesses in the middle of riots because you think all their medication sales are drug-pushing and whoring. That's an interesting faux morality you have there.

You think if one store is looted loads of people are suddenly going to die?

My lack of outrage about a CVS pharmacy being looted does not mean I'm reveling in the destruction of businesses.

Nice try though, gunner.

How does it improve people's lives? It sure as hell gives the already thuggish cops a reason to tighten the screws a lot harder.

So we get to look forward to militarized cops being deployed, people being hurt and once the dust settles the locals will live amongst the ruins until the businesses decide it's worth coming back.

Now they may have to take a bus or hope someone can drive 5 miles to get what they were able to walk to. CVS carries many things that were once handy to now blocks away.

You have no concern that folks are trashing, looting and stealing, apparently at will? I see now the pharmacy and the building above it - I'd hazard a guess those are apartments above the store - is burning.

I see no clear connection between the larger issue, which warrants much more in-depth coverage, and this event. This is simply opportunistic vandalism and theft.

are touched by your concern.

Meh indeed.

*sarcasm*

Its clear some here relish anarchy. They're delusional to think it benefits black communities.

I relish anarchy and this ain't it.

I subscribe to the school of thought that we must each find our own moral/ethical center based on the idea that "The law is not for the Just but the Unjust." In other words, we shouldn't need laws against theft, murder and fraud because we, as individuals, each seek to become the sort of person who would not steal from, murder or manipulate our neighbors.

Some people just use it as an excuse to act like butt-heads and they actually give the state the excuse to further constrain the people.

that do not "seek to become the sort of person who would not steal from, murder or manipulate our neighbors".

What do they do? And what do you do with them?

It sounds scary but it comes down to being the kind of person who stands up for myself and my neighbors or promoting a system steeped in violence, wars, industrialized prisons, corruption, graft, rent-seeking, political patronage, poverty, etc. etc. etc.

The devil is in the details, naturally; but at the end of the day the equation always comes down to: What kind of person am I?

Some will point to the dangers of lynch mobs but, again: What kind of person am I? Having a police force and a state that first seeks its own safety over that of the citizenry it is charged to protect will not make me a better person.

Once the state becomes institutional it ceases to protect the people and protects the systems of its own power over all else. In fact, the instant the people decide the state has become a bigger threat than a protector the state proves them right by using its authority and resources -- all granted by the people through their labor -- to suppress the will of the people. All states are parasites that inevitably turn on their hosts.

Moreover, many who do seek to harm their neighbors make themselves a part of the state because it grants them the resources, opportunity and immunity to affect their desires. The only stupid criminals are those who don't attend the academy or gain elected office.

would be the first ones crying if it actually happened.

Corruption, graft, rent-seeking, wars, mass surveillance, regulatory capture, police brutality, industrialized prisons, unpopular laws against consensual activities, secret laws, secret courts, extra-judicial killings, militarized police, militaries acting as police, political patronage, partisan courts all weaving together to form a system that will lash-out violently against the very citizenry it professes to protect as soon as the people demand they be treated with basic human decency.

But I'm the naïve one who doesn't know how good she has it? I'll be so bold as to suggest those defending the state don't know how bad they have it and make it for everyone else.

Go live in Somalia. It's as close to anarchy as any place I've ever been.

I'm sure your keepers will grant you an extra portion for your dutiful allegiance -- or maybe they'll raise your taxes and levy a few fines to pay for all that shiny new riot gear they're going to requisition.

Yes, I spent a year in Somalia.

Please tell me about your experience with anarchy, other than your lala land fantasies.

Somalia isn't anarchy. It's the final, grand result of capitalism, when one entity has everything and everyone else is left to die.

Somalia is capitalism at its terrible end. It's our future if we don't change our ways.

LOL.

Kind sounds like what we have now -- only without the pretty flags and rousing national anthems.

Law is not for the Just but the Unjust. The Just have no need of the law. Maybe that is where we should turn our attention.

But it ain't gonna happen. Humans are murderous apes. It will be miraculous if we do not destroy our ecosystem, ourselves and most life on the planet.

The biggest gang with the most guns will always impose their will on the rest.

Everybody living together in harmony without government is a nice fantasy. But reality is where we should turn our attention. The best we can do is continue to work for a rational and decent government.

If so few are capable of governing themselves how fewer still are capable of governing others?

You complain of my fantasies but you want "rational and decent government." even as you speak of the depravity of humans. Who, exactly, runs government? Humans do not suddenly become noble once elected to office (assuming they're elected). Yes, the world has been full of criminals but the only stupid criminals have been those not elected to office or carrying a badge. The best way to rob a bank is to own one.

So, again, the best place to exert one's efforts is the one place a person can actually influence events -- themselves.

It takes a staggering degree of arrogance to imagine you can (or should) change anyone else.

or is shitposting your hobby? The only one saying black people are unruly was you, think about that before you come for me.

Because that's how the economy works right.... One store burns and those jobs disappear forever.

Everyone who was going to otherwise buy something there are going to burn their money because they have nothing to spend it on anymore.

It's trivial.

It's no skin off anyone's back.

...is not as simple as you think.

And you checked all of the prices and discount plans, I'm sure.

You're making it sound like someone is going to stomp on their neck so hard that they go into a coma and die a week later.

especially if you need your meds immediately.

If you fill your prescriptions at CVS, you can go to another one.

from Johns Hopkins just out slumming. No doubt the trust fund will make up for their lost wages.

1or 2 working the store .

And even Walgreen's in some places. I know that where we burned the pharmacy, we got 2 in it's place.

Seriously, are they ok?

You make an excellent point, although I'm not sure you will be eager to acknowledge it. When people are angry and frustrated, they lash out in all directions, without much thought to whether or not the object of the anger is really at fault for any of their troubles. This applies not only to demonstrators, but to the police as well.

control that they lash out in acts of violence and destruction, they need to be in jail. Period. I feel for anyone who depends on the local drugstores for meds, particularly the aging population who have a hard time with transportation. Keep making excuses though.

But, it seems that the out of control cops are not in jail, nor going to jail. Some will be promoted.

But, lets focus on the "out of control" that was caused by the out of control law enforcers.

back up those acts and lies?

We can call it "Burnsing" instead of "lovejoying".

right?!

...and you're making an ignorant link between those who are protesting for justice, those in the community who are reacting of anger and frustration to the police violence (both past and present), and those in the community who are taking advantage of the unrest.

I just have to wonder what your aim is in posting this dirt dumb flamebait.

Replies in this thread notwithstanding.

Just, you know, to assure everyone of your depth of concern?

Screw social justice, I might lose 0.02 cent on my dividend.

Gimmie, gimmie, gimme

Social Justice has been achieved right?

NARF!

too often they've been drowned out here and they matter just as much since this is their community.

pharmacies in the neighborhood for sick people to use, and that they survive the night without being destroyed/looted.

Rage is destructive and doesn't always fall upon the guilty - But the blacks in Baltimore have every right to outraged. If Baltimore PD had acted to demonstrate accountability and justice instead of minimizing/justifying the death this wouldn't have happened.

Was anyone hurt? If not, I really don't give a flying fuck if another part of the corpocracy burns to the fucking ground. They are complicit in the police state, in the racial and gender inequality, in the ripping off of America.

Something has to happen to wake people and the government up. Peaceful protest has gotten us nowhere. Time after time after time we see atrocities, murders, on video and nothing is done. Even in the rare case that someone is charged, just turn around and tomorrow you'll see it again.

So just fuck the noise that poor CVS was looted and burned.

I do not advocate destroying a neighborhood, a small, mom and pop business, or anyone being physically harmed. But if this shit keeps up, it will be much worse than what we have seen in decades. Maybe ever.

Reminds me of the '92 Rodney King Riots. (I hope this doesn't get that bad.) But after the '92 riots businesses couldn't get loans to rebuild in the burned out areas and no one wanted to re-open stores there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots#Rebuilding_Los_Angeles

are connected with the people protesting the death of Freddie Gray? Admittedly, I haven't watched Fox, but channel surfing around the other news media, the community activists and protest leaders have all said their groups are not involved.

Reporters are saying these are high school kids who were all released early and at the same time from 3 schools. They started coordinating their looting on social media, planning which stores to hit. MSNBC is broadcasting a scene right now showing well dressed adults blocking a group of teens with book bags from entering a store.

Stop spreading these groundness rumors that mimic rightwing chatter and only serve to diminish the injustices done to people of color by corrupt police and local governments.

lose when the general population turns on them. That's what a riot is all about.

but divisive snark in bad taste accounts for X% of the posts, not sure what number =X, but it seems to be higher daily

is meant to do just what's intended. Take the focus for the reason(s) the buildings burned, and switch it to the buildings. Typical of many here and not surprising and I agree with your suggestion to OP author.

What the fuckkng fuck?

Probably.

by cutting the hose lines.

Not cool.

Take the insurance check, remove the rubble, and write off the loss. Move on. End of story.

That means a national guard call-up.

Just reported by ABC7 in DC.

This Michigan native is getting flashbacks to the Detroit riots in '67.

That is all

to focus on that fact, how much a victim CVS is, a corporation that exists totally in a bubble with no connection whatsoever to the community it exists in, and not oppression of black youth and how they have no recourse in the oppression that KILLS them.

*dripping sarcasm*

*and maybe a little contempt as well*

We should feel gratified that CVS wasn't killed due to a severed spine at the hands of law enforcement.

NTSH

If I were the CVS corporation, there is no way I would ever reopen that store.

Wow, your mindreading powers are just phenomenal. Me, I just assumed that the looters were just that, looters, and not really connected to the protests -- thanks for clearing that up, Kreskin.

but some of the privileged, here, there, everywhere, STILL are.

No - the store shouldn't have been looted?

No - the store shouldn't have been set on fire?

No - neighborhood residents shouldn't have to catch a bus to go get their prescriptions filled somewhere else?

I made my point. You have failed in making yours, as so many have, here, over the last few days. Spare me.

I felt like mine was pretty clear. In case it's not, I will say plainly that I have no sympathy for looters and rioters whatsoever. I hope they can be identified and prosecuted.